Helping the Democrats bridge the “God” Gap, is the subject. I can’t remember having to do this during Eisenhower’s, Kennedy’s, Johnson’s, Nixon’s, Ford’s, Carter’s, Reagan’s, George H. Bush’s, Clinton’s campaigning. It started with Son Bush, and the people that put him into office. Now we’re using this same point of selection for Obama, how about McCain, where does he fit into the Family Moral debate? Am I missing something? Or if you are a Republican you most be very moral so there is no need to “bridge the God-Gap”? jestrfyl, nnmns, and John Q could you please straighten me out on this?

Strategists to appear more to help Dems to appear more like they are godly or trick folk into believing they love God?

H22 quote: “bridge the God-Gap”? jestrfyl, nnmns, and John Q could you please straighten me out on this?
No disrespect but I love the rally call, this really made my day. Kind of reminded me of The Bowery Boys, The Dead End Kids, or The East Side Kids. Cute.

IMO it’s called creating a religious profile of a candidate to get the religious leaders of various denominations to tell their congregations and those who might care, that a certain candidate is “morally acceptable due to their profound (Christian?) faith” thus you can vote for him/her.
Who cares what “church, Mosque, Temple etc” any candidate might belong to? If elected, that person isn’t running a church, Mosque, Temple etc. They’re supposed to be running the U.S.A, not a country with a state religion.(not for lack of trying by some).

That’s not what George Washington said. He said the Bible is the backbone of this country. There’s plenty other quotes from other presidents.

YEA! for George #1 and “W”, and all the quotes you say have been made by other presidents as to the Bible being the “backbone of this country.” Just because a president has made such claims, doesn’t mean anything..especially if some quotes came from the “smart ones” like “W”! Separation of church and state…more important than the Bible or any other religious document. The First Amendment to the Constitution of the U.S. says “Congress shall make no law respecting and establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise there of…” Roger Williams used the phrase…hedge or wall of separation between the garden of the church and the wilderness of the world. It was used later by Thomas Jefferson as a description of the 1st Amendment and it’s restriction on the legislative branch of the Federal government assuring the Danbury Baptist’s rights as a religious minority would be protected from Federal interference. As much as many would like it to be…this country wasn’t founded as a Christian nation and as far as I can see…it isn’t a nation of Christians…it is a nation of many diverse religions…all of which should be respected as well as respect for those who choose to have no religion. We need help in this country if we are using the Bible as it’s backbone. Unlike many countries, we have no Nationally dictated religion…but if people yearn for one…Saudia Arabia, Iraq, Iran and many others could fulfill that need.

The above 2:04 PM post, should have “…..all the quotes you say, Cknuck, have been made etc……”. Also should be “….Congress shall make no law respecting AN establishment of….etc.” sorry for the typo.
pagansister

Jefferson often attended church right in the House of Representatives during his term, and Madison followed Jefferson’s example and the Gospel was preached in the Supreme Court chambers. So regardless of the quote, Jefferson’s nor does any other president’s actions show any hostility toward the church as those who run with a single quote would have the public to believe.

“Jefferson often attended church right in the House of Representatives during his term etc.” cknuck
No one is saying that the presidents are hostile towards religion… I’m only saying the First Amendment should be followed …and that religion and government don’t belong together. Too much importance is given to what candidates religious beliefs are or what church they belong too or how often they attend, etc. as well as each candidate making sure they mention “God” as often as possible….especially the “God Bless America” bit at the end of many speeches. Why is that considered necessary? I’ve often wondered. Is that supposed to make us (the citizens of the U.S.) feel protected or “saved” or what?

In a recent article in the LA Times about Jefferson and his take on his Christian religion, he said this: “Say nothing of my religion, it is known to myself and my God alone. Its evidence before the world is to be sought in my life; if that has been honest and dutiful to society, the religion which has regulated it cannot be a bad one”.
This sounds like a moderate, thinking man who lived what he believed, and didn’t find it necessary to prove his existence to anyone but God.

pagan no offense meant but it is easy to see why you fail to see the value or reverence to God by leaders (sure some use it to their advantage) but if you ever were in the battles Washington was in then you would see men praying to God and crying out to Him or in the struggles of liberty like Jefferson who worshiped right in the House of Representatives you would know for certain like 52 of the signers that God blessed this country in the good times and bad. That’s why they said things like the Gospel is the backbone of the country because God was with them in the trenches and back rooms in the making of this country. That’s why the Dems are so desperate to appear as if God is on their side. I say that without any judgment as to if God is on their side on not but just to refer to their desperation to the point they would hire spin doctors.
H22 moderate sounds much like “lukewarm.” I know Jefferson had a whole lot of sin going in his life with sexual immorality and all maybe he had a reason to be lukewarm.

cknuck:
Every nation on earth feels that a God is on their side in peace times and in war. I’m sure that in war many folks “find god’ as war is horrible.
I’d really like to see a candidate that never mentioned his/her God every time he/she made a speech. I’d probably vote for them for that reason alone, if it was possible.

Cknuck, what I said doesn’t matter. Now go back to what Jefferson said and see if you understand what he meant. Then tell me what you think he meant? Moderate to a far right or far left mind is always lukewarm. Who cares? Moderate is in the middle, it’s a balance and doesn’t bring on extremism.

God Gap – that is the turn I take everytime I try to follow the road to Orthodox. It is a great place – good ribs, cold beer, no self-righteous know-it-alls, and they celebrate ALL holidays.
I wonder why they picked tis character up – he didn’t seem to do much for her. Now, if Obama can enlist one of the women who influenced other women, that would be significant and worthy of news. This is more like reading the who’s been hired by whom protion of the business section in the newspaper.

H22 he obviously meant that he would worship God and invite others to worship God and have church in the government halls which does not jive with the current interpretation of church and state.

Obama is doing fine if he establishes he’s a believer and convinces people who doubt that.
Apparently he’s talked about extending the feeding at the public trough by financing “faith-based” charities. Even if they are clean now (and I doubt very much they all are!) they won’t be when there’s free money to be had with spotty oversight at best.
And he flip-flopped on battling the bill, coming up for a final vote this week, that would grant retroactive immunity to the telecom companies that illegally gave our phone and email records to the Bush administration to peruse. (Not all telecoms did that; a few were legal and courageous; this is how they are rewarded.)
As Bob Herbert says in the NYT, Obama is lurching with abandon toward the center and in a few cases beyond it. And in doing so he’s losing some of his original supporters. He’d better take a little time off and decide who he really is and maybe shed some advisors who have contributed to past Democrats who pulled defeat out of likely victories.

My organization will not take a dime from gthe gov

Good for your group, cknuck. The gov’t has no business giving money to “faith based” groups.