So the family that prays together doesn’t always stay together.

One more incident where a retired pastor does not know enough to let go. I have seen too many suffer from this malady, and too few find ways to appreciate and enjoy their retirement (I have known and worked with two special exceptions who have retired well). I understand Rev Wright has suffered (and is causing his successsor to suffer as well) from this same affliction. It is too bad and very sad when this happens. No one benefits, least of all the retired pastor who begins to lose the respect of the congregation he once worked so hard to serve. Denominations of every sort need to find new and creative ways to work witht he retiring clergy to help them get out of the way and allow the new pastor serve unimpeded.

I was very shocked to hear that the young Schuller had resigned from the church. It is a shame that the senior Schuller couldn’t let go & let the new go forth. I am 71 years old & believe in change. The visiting preachers aren’t half as good as the younger Schuller & I think that the church has lost something very important. I agree that the senior Schuller should have backed off. After-all, he is retired!!!

I used to believe in Christianity and enjoyed Robert Schuller’s books and audio tapes on positive thinking. His sermons inspired my grandmother, but they seemed too much like a stage production to me.
When he punched a person on an airplane, it really made me question his stability as a spiritual leader.
I remember Schuller senior saying, “Tough times don’t last, but tough people do.” I guess his son wasn’t tough enough for him.

Sometimes change is good. It creates opportunity that would not have been there otherwise.

Change we can believe in, anyway.

A case of generational differences.

Sr. Schuller started his church at a drive-in. He was and probably still is inspirational. I knew his ministry when they were in the first church in Garden Grove, one of his women members came to the City of Hope and visited my daughter when she was taking a new series of chemo, after going out of remission for the lst. time after six mo. She was seventeen yrs. and I was working and couldn’t be there that wk.; they called and asked if she could visit the Tower at their Church, have ice cream and be returned to C. of H. I gave them my permission. She had a lovely time with a loving person. She was on their prayer list, reason for visit. She didn’t see Dr. Schuller, but the other white haired gentlman, whose name I can’t remember, but he was on their TV Church for many years, met her. I remember a young teenager, his son, and how proud Dr. Schuller was of him. I haven’t seen much of his TV Church in recent years, but when I have I missed Dr. Schuller. Have no idea what their problem is, but the young Schuller should mend whatever is wrong, while he still is able.

I have just about every book Dr. Schuller ever wrote, and they helped me through many tough times, as well as Norman Vincent Peale’s books. These are special people with their writings, and anyone can benefit from their books.
The incident on the airliner; it wasn’t a punch, he grabbed him by the shoulder to get his attention, as I remember. He was frustrated that his “Robes” weren’t hung in a closet on first class. I think it was a a case of two men’s egos.

Maybe Obama should have invited Schuller-the-lesser to pray at the inaugural, just to spite Schuller-the-elder. That is no way to treat prayer, but I think the old man needs to have his humilty inspected for flaws.

Perhaps, jestrfyl, but he’s done so much more good, than have a moment of frustration with a flight attendent. I had a dirty rag thrown backwards into the front of my clothes on a flight from Hawaii, when I asked for the tray in front of me that had spilled whisky in a puddle to be wiped off. I couldn’t get over my husbands knees to throw it back at her as she ran down the aisle away from me. I was a nobody, not in first class, so I shook my head, gave the rag to my husband and he wiped it up! Just another story to add to former airline stories.

Forgot again.