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Bill to Allow Jesus License Plates in Fla. Dies

posted by nsymmonds | 5:51pm Monday May 4, 2009

(RNS) Moves to create two Florida license plates with images of a crucified Jesus on one, and a stained glass window and cross on another, have died in the Florida legislature.
Both plates had come under blistering criticism from Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the American Civil Liberties Union. The Associated Press reported that bills to create the plates died at the end of the regular legislative session on Friday (May 1).
State Sen. Gary Siplin, an Orlando Democrat, had proposed the plate with “a picture of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.” The plate portrayed an image of Jesus’ head lowered under the weight of a crown of thorns.
Siplin was not available Monday for comment.
Gov. Charlie Crist, a Republican, had earlier said he would support the plate. “If they (critics) don’t want one, they don’t have to buy one,” Crist told The St. Petersburg Times.
Florida drivers are able to purchase more than 100 specialized license plates. Proceeds, which normally run between $15 and $25, support various causes and groups.
The other plate, proposed by state Sen. Ronda Storms, a Republican from Brandon, would have depicted a stained glass window, cross and the words “I Believe.” A district court has temporarily halted the production of similar plates in South Carolina.
“License plates are not a license for the government to prefer one religion over others,” said the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of the Washington-based Americans United. “I’m glad the legislature in Florida seems to have finally realized that.”
By Kevin Eckstrom
Copyright 2009 Religion News Service. All rights reserved. No part of this transmission may be distributed or reproduced without written permission.



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nnmns

posted May 4, 2009 at 7:21 pm


‘State Sen. Gary Siplin, an Orlando Democrat, had proposed the plate with “a picture of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”‘
First, would they also produce a plate with my Great Sustainer the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Oh, and who took/painted that picture of Jesus? I believe it would be tough to produce one.
Second, good choice, Florida! You may have avoided having people rear end cars with the wrong religion on their plate. And those old folks have enough problems, what with the Republican Economy, without having to fight their spouses over what god to put on their plates.



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pagansister

posted May 4, 2009 at 8:10 pm


Florida did something right for a change. JC hanging on a cross is depressing enough in a RCC church, but seeing it on the rear end of a car…out of context (church)shows the world what? Yea! a “Christian” is driving?



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Rob the Rev

posted May 4, 2009 at 9:15 pm


I’m glad that Florida put an end to that bit of false piety! We already see enough JEEEE-SUS signs on the highways.



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jestrfyl

posted May 5, 2009 at 10:32 am


All of the political discussion aside – the plates were absolutely CHEEESY! They had one of the doe eyed, bodice-ripper Jesus drawings, on the cross with the words “Sunshine State” below. Talk about poorly thought through, poorly executed, and poorly presented!!!
Of course, I also agree that the state has NO business endorsing any religion with a lisence plate or anything else. If people had proposed an Islamic plate there would have been ballastics all over the place. It would be only slightly less so if thee was a Jewish plate. As for the Flying Spaghetti Monster – he has all those kule chrome emblems, like the Xn guppies and Evo-walkingfish, so license plate is needed.
See once an a while – mostly by accident – we do something right down here.



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Markie Straub

posted May 5, 2009 at 1:13 pm


While it is unfortunate that the religious license plates cannot be made, the good thing is that we can slap Jesus stickers anywhere on our cars! Whoo-hoo! There’s no stopping to the spread of God’s glory! Praise be to Jesus! He is AWESOME!



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nnmns

posted May 5, 2009 at 1:39 pm


I always wondered about a deity that had to advertise on car bumpers.



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cknuck

posted May 5, 2009 at 3:55 pm


RtR speak for yourself, I happen to have a different opinion.
nnmns it is not the deity but the people who want to be identified as followers, now they don’t have that right.



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jestrfyl

posted May 5, 2009 at 4:03 pm


ck
No one is preventing you or any follower of any spiritual leader from identifying themselves as such. This simply means that the Sunshine State does not provide the means for that promotion. Why someone would want the state to handle that promotion offer them seems odd anyway.



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nnmns

posted May 5, 2009 at 4:22 pm


“it is not the deity but the people who want to be identified as followers,”
Maybe but I’m not convinced there’s no advertising for one’s favorite deity.
” now they don’t have that right.”
Ever the martyr aren’t you cknuck.



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pagansister

posted May 5, 2009 at 7:58 pm


If FL allowed those plates, cknuck, then every religion would want their own plate…Jews, Muslims, Pagans, Atheists, Hindu’s, Buddists, etc. Must nip this in the bud…and they did. Why should anyone need their religious symbol on the rear end of their car (or if in RI it would be on the front and the rear of their car).
FL has a plate for almost everything else, but fortunatly they had the good sense to stay out of religion.



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cknuck

posted May 5, 2009 at 8:03 pm


pagan quote “If FL allowed those plates, cknuck, then every religion would want their own plate…Jews, Muslims, Pagans, Atheists, Hindu’s, Buddists, etc. Must nip this in the bud.”
So what and why?
So what if everybody would want their own plate big deal. Why does it has to be nipped in the bid.



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pagansister

posted May 5, 2009 at 8:42 pm


States don’t need to promote any religion…cknuck. Separation of church and state…and this “state” is FL. If folks want to brag/publicly identify their religious beliefs then they can use bumpter stickers…or window stickers or hang rosary beads off the rear view mirror…
Hey, if a person is clever enough,they can figure out a vanity plate to promote their religion without it being obvious. However JC hanging on a cross…not subtle…and besides I don’t think one can get a vanity plates with special pictures. :o )



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Hillbilly4Jesus

posted May 5, 2009 at 10:19 pm


I am a Christain, proud to be a christain, Follower of Christ, prayer warrior, one of the people you can come to when you want to know Jesus. I am not nieve to what is happening in the world today and why it is happening. My kids still read the bible in school and it will stay like that. A country founded on Christain beliefs and now nobody believes. We can tell who did come from monkeys cant we……
GETRDUN4JESUS >>



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Your Name

posted May 6, 2009 at 10:05 am


“good thing is that we can slap Jesus stickers anywhere on our cars! Whoo-hoo! There’s no stopping to the spread of God’s glory!”
I am perpexed as to how a tacky license plate or “Jesus stickers” somehow “glorify God”.
I just came back from 5 months in FL, and the tackiness in “spreading God’s glory” (or, what with all the blood from the crown of thorns and the nails and the whiplashes, etc. maybe it would be more accurate to say ‘spreading God’s GORE-y’) knew no bounds. And, some of the worst drivers on the road had the ‘religious’ bumper stickers on ‘em. The ones that would cut you off, speed (or worse, go 45 in a 70 zone), never signal, always honking their horns at others, etc.) – these were the self-identified “christians”.
Such a ‘witness’.



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pagansister

posted May 6, 2009 at 1:00 pm


Hillbilly4Jesus:
Guess your kids go to a Christian school….we hope…as you said they still read the Bible in school.
Also, this is NOT a Christian nation…and the founding parents were sure to make it clear that religion was a private affair and not part of government…and all religions are allowed. If we still followed what the founders started…we’d still have slaves! So for those who believe like you do…hooray, for those that don’t hooray! BTW, many in this country believe…not like you do…why should they?



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cknuck

posted May 6, 2009 at 6:33 pm


pagan what kind of argument is that, first you make a false statement about the nation and the founding fathers to support your views of what you think this country is and then you turn around and backhand the founders so if I were to try to follow your reasoning then this country stands for whatever we reason at the time. It is one of weirdest trails of ramblings I have ever read, and probably it accounts for our country’s weakness, division and confusion.



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Henrietta22

posted May 6, 2009 at 6:44 pm


Hillbilly for Jesus, you sound as though you believe the rest of the U.S. you don’t live in is trying to prevent Christians from loving our Lord. They aren’t, they just have their own interpretation of what they believe. Don’t be so worried. I have a chain with Jesus on it over my car mirror, it’s there because of the love the person has for us that gave it to us, and it represents my Jesus in a Catholic way. I don’t care if anyone makes a senario of who I am because it is swinging there. It’s my car, it’s my chain with my Christ Jesus on it, and it’s nobody elses business.



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pagansister

posted May 6, 2009 at 7:20 pm


And just which “false statement would that be, cknuck? The founding parents wanted freedom of religion, not a dictated one so that isn’t a false statement. They also believed slavery was OK, that women had no business in politics. We no longer have slavery or all women sitting at home making babies and staying out of politics, or the workplace. It’s called “up dating” from then to 2009. No backhanding of the founding parents. They were great people…an amazing group of intelligent folks gathered in one place to start this country. And Yes, I remember you telling us that there has been church in congress, and prayer etc., and heck there probably still is…probably in some of the private offices, but I contend that this nation isn’t a “Christian” nation. To a certain extent, this country does stand for whatever we believe at the time…every decade has had different meaning…you were there, you know….60′s were different than the 70′s and fast forwarding to the previous 8 years where this country stood for …invading a country and whatever GWB could do to screw up our credibility to the entire world. More “weird” ramblings for your consideration…or not.



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cknuck

posted May 6, 2009 at 8:30 pm


pagan quote, “We no longer have slavery or all women sitting at home making babies and staying out of politics, or the workplace”
Now we are turning the corner and freedom of religion is disappearing. I agree with most of what you said but I am confused as to where you stand outside of anti Christian and pro homosexual.



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pagansister

posted May 6, 2009 at 9:57 pm


First, cknuck, in spite of what you think, I’m not Anti-Christian. That would be hard, since all my immediate family are Christians (except my kids and husband) as are most of my friends. So I’m not anti-Christian. Do I believe JC was special? Only in that he seems to have been a wise prophet/teacher, but so were many other religious leaders.
Yes, I have no problem with homosexuality. So you have 1 right, and 1 wrong.
Where do I stand on what exactly? As an American? This is a great country…not exclusively a Christian country…but a diverse country religion wise and race wise. It draws immigrants from all over the world (some legal and some not), but it seems that the freedoms (of religion for one)here appeal to many, many folks. Those people contribute to this country…most times in a positive way.
Family first, then country….and living with “As it harm none, do as ye will.”



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pagansister

posted May 6, 2009 at 10:03 pm


Just thought, cknuck, what has all this to do with JC on license plates?
And I disagree with your statement that freedom of religion is disappearing. It just doesn’t need to be sponsored by states/or the Feds.



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jestrfyl

posted May 7, 2009 at 10:46 am


Has it occured to anyone that the picture of Jeeesus on the FL license plate would be an insult to Christians? The entire thing reeked of phoney piety and pious pretences. It looked B*A*D and represnted the very worst of Christian sensibilities and sensitivity. The artowrk was right from the Black Light – Black Velvet, Elvis-at-the-Last-Supper School of scholck.
As was well said in Ecclesiates 3, There is a time and purpose for everything. These lisence plates were so horribly out of step that there was no time for them.



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