And yet another version of the Holy Book. I’m sure, however, that it is to be taken as totally true…because all the versions haven’t changed the meaning of any of the “original” book.

disregarding all of the bible piranha on board, I must say that I have never appreciated what the NIV has recently done to the bible. Both Biblica and Zondervan are only interested in capitalizing on the bible’s best selling status. With that motive in mind they make poor translators.

This has all the aura of opportunism. The changes will be minute, trivial, and probably do little more than mangle and already tangled text.
Your on your own for a couple of weeks, friends. I am taking one more lap up the east coast, to Ohio, and back – family wedding (working one for me) and a visit with our daughter. So play nice, if you must insult – do so creatively, be considerate, and remember – we are all on this roller coaster together (so keep your arms and heads in, no standing, and please don’t scream in another person’s ear). See you in mid-Sept. B’net Tiger is watching!!!

cknuck,
Just curious: Do you have a favored version of the Bible that you use?

Hope the new NIV translates Isaiah 7:14 correctly as “young woman” instead of “virgin.” Also baptism should be translated as “immersion” and hell should be translated as the “Valley of Hinnom.”

jestrfyl:
HAVE A FANTASTIC TRIP and be safe!

yes H4C KJ and NKJ and NRSV and yourself?

cknuck,
No, I don’t have any strong preference for any particular version. Sometimes I look at the Blue Letter Bible on-line because it offers a variety of versions for each text-verse. I guess if I had to pick just one, it would be the Jerusalem Bible.

Yeah I enjoy reading that too.

Another deviant Bible. I’ll sick with the KJV and NKJV

make that stick

Gee, interpreter, did God issue a statement defining which versions are right and which are “deviant”?

H4C actually He does and it is through His divine Holy Spirit that we can discern.

cknuck, “He” decided what bible you are supposed to read?! You’ve got to be kidding!! The divine being says read this particular bible??
Whatever. That’s really called “control”.

pagan just because it is beyond your capacity to understand does not mean it’s not so.

There is one excellent reason to publish a new Bible translation;
MORE BIBLES!
Dr. Moo would do well to cherish other views, like those of his former colleague Dr. Wayne Grudem, when pronouns and gender based grammar are in question.
Maybe not so much as to negate his own views, but enough to make this a healing work instead of an agenda.

Beyond my capacity to understand? IOW, I haven’t got the imagination you have? No, ck that’s true. My imagination doesn’t include an invisible being telling me what to read…bible or other wise. But it works for you…obviously.

see pagan you are so off course already, it has nothing to do with imagination. you mock what you don’t understand that’s not a good sign on any level.

cknuck, it is , IMO, an imagination that would have a person feel that a divine being is telling them just what version of the divine being’s holy book to read is as I already said…a little bit like science fiction. I thought all of those versions were “divinely inspired” and totally accurate to the original, to the last or next translation, version etc.. Guess there is some room for doubt as to the accuracy of that book now, huh? Mock what I don’t understand? What’s to understand? Seems rather clear cut to me…”an unbeliever”. Not a good sign? Of what? Discussing the NIV updated version of the bible? Thought that IS what the article above was about…you mentioned that god or someone tells you just which one to read…so how is that off the mark…the comment I made as to your acceptance of being told which version of the infallible book to read?
Hope your Sunday is as nice as mine…beautiful here. Fall is coming.

just got in from a beautiful drive with my wife and a great church service my Sunday is wonderful. While you may not have any connection with God your small world can never say with the certainty you claim there is no God. You may be angry He has not spoken to you personally but that is your fault not His.

Glad to hear that your church service and day were good. Makes one appreciate life even more.
Am not so sure my world is small….and I can claim with much certainty that I don’t believe there is A god. Am I angry? No, very much the opposite…I have an excellent life and family etc. Any Being speaking to me would be through what I find in nature…all life is connected….each a part of the other.
Take care, Cknuck.

…turn-about; How someone would interpret the above if some other had written it.
other; “…Any Being speaking to me would be through what I find in nature…”"
one; Now you hear animals talking to you? You are WAYYYY out there.
other; “”…all life is connected…”"
one; Everyone thinks that. This is just lame.

GC: When was your view of ck and my conversation asked for? Never.

pagan touchcy huh?

Just didn’t need more of his preaching at the time I wrote it. )

Oh!…grandmother! What a BIG nose you have…..

“What a BIG nose you have..” GC
So I can sniff out the truth in the bible, GC. Comes in handy for detecting the use of exaggertion in the stories in the bible.
Have a nice day.:o)

“”…So I can sniff out the truth in the bible…”"
That’s a good start. But blind guides sniff out truth only so they can attempt to discredit it. Deception being the game.
Those who deny God will not find “new” truth in this new translation of the Bible.
Old ones will do just fine.
Ancient truth fought by ancient foes.
…but the battle continues.

Hi! GC:
Blind guides are better at sniffing out the truth…but not to discredit it…only to question it, to see if it actually meets the test of just what “truth” is. Always a difference on that…some think the bible (in all it’s incarnations) has truth, some think the Quran has it, others think the Torah…so just WHAT is truth, GC? You have no more insight on that then those who read their scriptures/holy books.
You seem to like the OLD incarnations of the holy book…why is that…doesn’t truth hold true in all the translations/copies/ incarnations OR does TRUTH change? After all, it is inspired by God, right? If so, even this version, the updated NIV, should be just as RIGHT as all the others, huh/ Think about it. How can one holy book, in this case your “old” Bible, not be as good as the others? It is HOLY, right? God told them what to write?
Yes, the battle continues. Never dull, Always a trip.

…never dull? Pagans are always wrong. It does get pretty dull.
But, more questions from the “seeker” that when answered will enlighten others, at least.
“”…so just WHAT is truth…?”" God is truth.
“”…does TRUTH change?…”" God is the same yesterday, today and for eternity to come. Unchanging and immutable.
“”…it is inspired by God, right?…” All that is good and beneficial to man comes from God. In fact, our very existence, truth and all.
“”…the updated NIV, should be just as RIGHT as all the others…”"
The Spirit of God leads in all Truth. If the Spirit is in the reading and there is no heresy involved, truth will be conveyed.
“”…How can one holy book, in this case your “old” Bible, not be as good as the others?…”" If they contain no heresy, they are all good.
“”…It is HOLY, right?…”" Yes.
“”…God told them what to write?…”" If you mean the original authors, yes, the Spirit of God led them.
“”…the battle continues…”" A battle that your side lost before time began. Evil does need to be outed, however.

GC, so glad you didn’t have to think for an answer,…god. At least you’re consistant.
Pagans are always wrong? Riiiiiight! and Christians are always right? In your mind, GC, in your mind.
Pagans have contributed to your holiday celebrations (which BTW I celebrate too…I just have different meanings)…let’s see..Christmas trees, Easter Eggs, Yule Logs. Pagan’s aren’t going anywhere..here first and staying…as are many other perfectly acceptable faiths….Jewish, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims. You most certainly don’t have all (if any) of the answers, but if floats you boat.
Oh yes, “Evil does need to be outed, however”. Most certainly…the devil is everywhere….and he’ll get you if you don’t watch out!! I’ll keep an eye out. )
You seem to have left a little doubt as to the proper Bible however. It has to have the right spirit …(or spirits?)

Sheer lunacy, pagan. More proof that Liberal “thought” has no basis. Relying on pathological rhetoric for it’s “power”, along with all that implies – negativity, deflection, ad hominem, “straw-man” arguments, projection, redefinition of words, abstractions, inept analogies. But underpinning the pathological rhetoric is sheer evil – the gates of hell pounding at the stronghold of Truth. Anyone who might read these pages and remain objective will see this to be true.
The good news;
God wins.
Believe it, or not.
The audacity of disbelief.

Worldviews are colliding here.
These two universal worldviews are essentially mutually exclusive.
Only one can be true and is true. And one must be false.
God is not.
God is.
Choose wisely.

Glad you recognize “pathological rhetoric”, as what you wrote, GC.
Liberal thought has no basis? And yours does? No proof of that.
Have an audicious day.

“”…Liberal thought has no basis?…? No proof of that…”"
Read what you submit…

I remember my submissions….thus my question….Your conservative rhetoric(to put it mildly) has basis? Based on an imaginary being with a 2000 year old book written by human beings.
No proof your statements have any basis, GC.

…and, I suppose, YOU are just LUXURIATING in a bubble-bathtub brimming to overflowing of truth???
…nope.
But, I can tell you where to find RIVERS of life, lost one.

Bubble Baths?
I’ll stick with my truth…you stick with yours.

…Rivers of life, lost one, rivers of life…

“Row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream”, GC