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Poll: Americans Pin Poverty Passage on Obama, not Bible

posted by nsymmonds | 6:18pm Tuesday November 24, 2009

(RNS) More Americans believe a statement about giving “justice to the poor and homeless” came from President Obama instead of its true source, the Bible.
A survey conducted by Harris Interactive for the American Bible Society found that 54 percent of U.S. adults polled believe the statement — “You must defend those who are helpless and have no hope.
Be fair and give justice to the poor and homeless” — came from a celebrity or politician, when the statement actually comes from Proverbs 31:8.
Of the 1,001 adults surveyed, 16 percent believed the statement came from Obama; 13 percent said it came from the Bible. Other popular answers included the Dalai Lama, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Oprah Winfrey.
Other questions in the survey also addressed poverty and the Bible.
In a question about the teachings of the Bible, 40 percent said the Bible offers the most teaching on heaven, pride or adultery, even though poverty is actually mentioned more than any of these subjects.
The survey was developed to coincide with the release of the society’s new Poverty and Justice Bible, which highlights verses about poverty and justice and provides tips on helping people in need.
By Angela Abbamonte
Religion News Service
Copyright 2009 Religion News Service. All rights reserved. No part of this transmission may be distributed or reproduced without written permission.



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cknuck

posted November 24, 2009 at 6:57 pm


Not very funny but not surprising



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Henrietta22

posted November 24, 2009 at 8:02 pm


The Bible is a world of knowledge that everyone should read and seek to understand.



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pagansister

posted November 24, 2009 at 8:39 pm


Helps prove that this country isn’t totally Christian. Expect some Christians are lax in the substance of the bible too.



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nnmns

posted November 24, 2009 at 10:34 pm


It would seem the parts of the Bible about helping the poor and homeless isn’t taught much in most of the churches around. It would seem a lot more time is spent on the evils of homosexuality and abortion than on the positives of helping those who need it.
Could that be because it’s a lot easier to get worked up about those than actually doing the work of getting aid to the poor and homeless?
Anyway if more Christians knew that about their Bible we might be more likely to pass health coverage for all Americans.



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jestrfyl

posted November 24, 2009 at 11:44 pm


Funny how this would not have been a question two years ago. But then I guess nothing that was done in the White House then bore even the slightest hint of Biblical wisdom.
Anybody who comes to the churches I serve knows where this somes from. They know just about all the care for the powerless passages. I quote them, refer to them, discuss them, and preach them. None of it is from Levitcus (OT book of Law – rendered harmless by the fall of the Temple in 70 CE). Alot of it is from the Gospels and Genesis, Psalms and even Paul. It is the rule that precedes the Bible and the footing upon which the foundation and walls were built. Even Jesus said the rest is pretty much commentary. Love God, care for people as you care for yourself. That’s it – now go to work!



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nnmns

posted November 25, 2009 at 12:08 am


Good for you, j! I had a hunch you’d do it better.



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cknuck

posted November 25, 2009 at 1:17 am


nnmns quote, “It would seem the parts of the Bible about helping the poor and homeless isn’t taught much in most of the churches around. It would seem a lot more time is spent on the evils of homosexuality and abortion than on the positives of helping those who need it”
Totally false statement it’s a shame these kinds of false attacks are your pattern and endorsed by others here. I go to different churches every week by invitation and I have never heard any sermons on the evils of homosexuality, that would be a silly waste of time. Churches are trying to feed, clothe and shelter the growing population of people in need that’s one of the reasons they invite me. You shouldn’t go around spreading lies nnmns. You make accusations about places you don’t even frequent.



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PSanAT

posted November 25, 2009 at 9:40 am


It isn’t just what is preached, but what is done by churches that is a “sermon” to the members and the general public. Which churches and church bodies, historically and presently , had/have hospitals, orphanages, famine relief, disaster relief, jobs programs, etc. And how well do these church bodies presently make these programs known to their people? I am not saying that it is OK to only give money and not time and action, but church bodies which have care of the poor as part of their breath and fiber are more likely to convey this to their members and show the same to the community.



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nnmns

posted November 25, 2009 at 9:57 am


Well cknuck there are preachers who actually opposed homosexuals being included in the groups protected by hate crime laws because they claimed they wouldn’t be able to preach against homosexuality then.
You go on and on about your experiences and how they refute what some of us say. Two points: first, your experiences could never cover very much of what goes on; second, we’d have to take your word to accept your “experiences”.



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Rel

posted November 25, 2009 at 11:01 am


What version of the Bible are they using? I cannot find any version in which Proverbs 31:8 says what they claim.



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douglas_macneill

posted November 25, 2009 at 12:37 pm


Speak out for those who cannot speak, for the rights of all the destitute.
Speak out, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.
–Proverbs 31: 8-9, New Revised Standard Version
Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute.
Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy.
–Proverbs 31: 8-9, Today’s New International Version



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nnmns

posted November 25, 2009 at 12:38 pm


I get this online from the King James version:
Proverbs 31:8-9 (King James Version)
8 Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.
9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
It’s not at all clear what 8 means, as is so often the case in the Bible. At first I thought it meant to support Republicans, but surely not.
But 9 is fairly clearly in the spirit of what was quoted in the article. I didn’t check all the versions. It must be hard to take the Bible literally when there are so many differing versions.



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cknuck

posted November 25, 2009 at 12:48 pm


nnmns quote, “your experiences could never cover very much of what goes on;”
Did you read my post? I go to many churches so my experiences stacked next to yours, never going to any church, is a little more reliant.
By the way nnmns, I can clearly see why Proverbs 31:8 is not at all clear to you.



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nnmns

posted November 25, 2009 at 1:25 pm


cknuck I never claim my experience of churches amounts to much; you do. But no matter how you galavant around you could ever only get to a small fraction of a percent of the churches in the US alone. Your mouth is by far your biggest part.



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cknuck

posted November 25, 2009 at 5:59 pm


In the U.S in African, in Indonesia, don’t presume for me. I have a finger on the pulse of the church at large because I am involved why would you argue that. Oh I know why.



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nnmns

posted November 25, 2009 at 7:56 pm


So if we knew your real name would we be all OMG! ?



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cknuck

posted November 25, 2009 at 8:30 pm


Well maybe not you.



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nnmns

posted November 26, 2009 at 12:30 am

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posted November 26, 2009 at 12:19 pm


nnmns wrote: “It must be hard to take the Bible literally when there are so many differing versions.”
There are many versions (=translations) because translating from one language to another is not a paint-by-the-numbers exercise, especially when idiomatic expressions are involved. All the translations of the verses I found say basically the same thing.



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nnmns

posted November 26, 2009 at 2:56 pm


But if every word has to be true, and the words are different, …



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cknuck

posted November 29, 2009 at 2:41 pm


There are men who have spent lifetimes understanding the bible, there are many who allow the spirit of God to help with understanding and there are those who may never fully understand yet believe. For all who hearts are right the bible has always made a positive impact on their lives and will bring them into a relationship with God.



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