Each president should have a choice as to whether to have prayers or not, and whether to say “so help me God”. Chances are most will continue to do this, as they want to be “popular” with some of the voters!

When US presidents quit saying “so help me God,” Jesus will quit helping them rule the earth. The US is the 4th Christian horseman to rule the world, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse. Our nuclear weapons bring hell and death. And the flying eagle associated with the 4th horseman is prominently displayed on our great seal, and on the dollar bill.
But someday we will have to give way to the 5th horseman, when the atheists and pagans in the US get their way.

interpreter: “When US presidents quit saying “so help me God,” Jesus will quit helping them rule the earth. The US is the 4th Christian horseman to rule the world, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse. Our nuclear weapons bring hell and death. And the flying eagle associated with the 4th horseman is prominently displayed on our great seal, and on the dollar bill.
But someday we will have to give way to the 5th horseman, when the atheists and pagans in the US get their way.”
I read Revelation once, and I’m pretty sure there was no 5th horseman.

interpreter,
Why do you call yourself by that name, when your words make it clear that your user-name should be “blasphemer”?

H4C he is no differrent than you, you call yourself H4C when it is clear you are H against C and his believers

My apologies interpreter I did not mean to compare you to H4C even though I don’t necessarily agree with some of your post I admire you spirit.

Quite the contrary, cknuck, I cherish the spiritual teachings of Jesus. What I am against is doctrinal mangling of what he taught. It is my opposition to doctrinal mangling that defines me as a heretic. I sincerely believe that the only way to be FOR Christ is to be a heretic who is AGAINST the doctrinal mangling of his spiritual teachings.

The third judge said, “Long standing prayers, and the oath of office are constatutional”. They are, because it covers the Presidents right for his freedom of religion to say what he wants to.
Happy Mothers Day PS, and other moms!

Thank you Henrietta, and to you. I have much to be happy about this Mother’s Day. I have 2 grown children (1 boy and one girl), both happily married, and a first grandchild, a boy, born to my son and his wife in March. Thei is indeed a good Mother’s Day.
Happy Mother’s Day to all Mother’s who post here!

Hi Mordrid,
The 5th horseman appears in chapter 19. We are now in chapter 16, the pouring out of the 7 last plagues.
And I should have said the 3rd and 4th Christian horsemen now rule the earth for Jesus. (I can safely say that now that Clegg the pacifist has been defeated). Great Britain was founded by King James, who rode a black horse and conquered with economics. Together with Israel we will defeat the 7th head of the beast that fired the first shot of the Battle of Ar Mageddon on 9/11 when the Euphrates was dry.

OMG, interpreter, you and your horsemen!

interpreter: “The 5th horseman appears in chapter 19. We are now in chapter 16, the pouring out of the 7 last plagues.”
Oh, I see. You’re referring to the arrival of Jesus on a white horse, wearing bloodstained robes and slaughtering the armies of the beast with a sword coming out of his mouth (doesn’t seem like a effective weapon to me). The verses I mention are in Revelation 19:11-21, in case you think I must have made that up.

Morred,
A lot of Christians believe that the Christlike 5th horseman is Jesus. I do not share that view. The 5th horseman is a Christian kingdom like the first four, and rides a white horse called “Faithful and True” which is the definition of the Orthodox Church, which the first horseman also rode to power.

Many of us don’t know how to interpret those writtings and can be reached with clearer communication