This high Catholic Patriach said they are expressing their profound respect for each human being, we proclaim the truth of the Ten Commandments, which are the basis of happiness, according to the Lord’s word, if you wish to enter into eternal life, keep the commandments.
You are not expressing your profound respect for each human being. GLBT, are people, too. You are not showing respect for their Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers, relatives and friends. Time to read and listen to the Medical explanations of Homosexuality and Heterosexuality, Patriach and company.

I guess the Vatican will be strongly punishing this Patriarch for advocating the denial of freedom of speech, petition, assembly, association, and protest to Gays. You see, after the Vatican was busted in December 2009 voting with Iran and Syria at the UN to kill a bill condemning nations that execute or jail people simply for being Gay, the Vatican said that they opposed all denials of human rights for Gays.
Either the Vatican is a bunch of hypocrites, or Mr. Twail will be publically rebuked by the Vatican.
This protest was simply nothing more than Israeli Gays protesting in front of their own legislative building.
If people opposed to Gay rights cannot march or assemble in Jerusalem (and that would include most religions), then no one should be able to march or assemble in J’lem.
Mr. Twal should be removed. Or the Vatican should admit that they advocate the denial for people who live outside their faith to protest their government.

one can certainly respect a person without respecting their behavior. For such a pagan display to be paraded through what people believe is such a holy place is a disrespectful act. I agree Twai’s viewpoint.

I can’t count how many times I’ve heard Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. screaming “respect our beliefs and stop persecuting us” while constantly calling us pedophiles and criminals, and passing and defending laws that make us second class citizens in our own countries. Not to mention what the Muslims do to gays in the Middle East. I suppose the Vatican would prefer the Israelis lynch their LGBT citizens like the Iranians do.

Latin Patriarch Fouad Twal said the event seeks to “defy family and marriage.”
Saaay whaat??? All the participants in this event are from families, most of which included married spouses. Many of the participants have entered into a chosen/legal family too. Some of the participants, gay and straight are married, some in Israel via religiously approved marriages, and some in foreign non-religious jurisdictions.
It seems to me the Latin Patriarch is just making stuff up.

is a sad day in my beloved Israel !!! we need to be an example to the world and this is what we allow in the steets of the holyland
a terible punishment will come to our Jewish nation from the hand of ADONAI it self and I hope soon !!! please wake up and be respectfull to our G_D and follow his laws !!!

Ahh, the RCC rep rears his (ugly) head to spout his displeasure at Israel’s allowing a gay parade in Jerusalem. Guess he doesn’t think that Gays are also human beings. Maybe the day the parade is held he can go on a picnic somewhere away from the fun, or hold up in his room, praying and reading the (Catholic) version of the Bible. Wonder if Israel complains when the “faithful” parade through the city, following the path Christ was supposed to have walked to his death each year?

He can say what he wants and people (most, I hope) can ignore him. It does sound like he’s a few beads short of a rosary.

Perhaps the weird fellow in the pointy hat should be reminded that if the Catholics want to keep their holy sites and not have them given to American Baptists at gunpoint he had best learn to keep his mouth shut.

Strange is the church trying to avoid seeing that some things exist. Bury your head in the sand like an ostrich.

The church has always seen things that exist they just reject things that are not of God.

The idol-worshipping Cristers and Nazi collaberators should shut the hell up about what goes on the JEWISH state.

God bless him for speaking an inconvenient truth.

So gay people who live in Jerusalem are not welcome to gather there because they are not holy enough? It is their city too, their home. They should have the right to legally assemble as they choose one day a year!

JM, I have an inconvenient truth for you. When you live in a democracy instead of a theocratic society, sometimes other people get to do things you don’t like. Israel just happens to be the one place in the middle east that isn’t a theocratic society.

Mordred do some research Israel has many religious laws, it claims its very right of existence out of theology

Not surprising coming from a leader of the notoriously anti-gay Catholic church (which, open secret, is still very anti-Semitic in its eastern-rite versions). Palestinians routinely blow up and kill people in Jerusalem and elsewhere in Israel. No statements of condemnation. Before Israel regained Jerusalem, Jews denied access to the holy places. No statements of condemnation. But Jews let some gays march and the sanctity of the holy city is threatened. The patriarch has no idea of what is holy. He certainly doesn’t believe that all people are created in the image and likeness of G-d.

I guess he’s right. I mean gays have San Francisco, New York City, Boston all of Key West, Moscow, Paris (especially Paris), London (especially the West End), Tel Aviv, Boy’s Town, Mexico (name says it all), Miami, all of the Netherlands, Bangkok, etc. to covort in. Shouldn’t the religious have at least one city that is sacred?

Rick said, “He certainly doesn’t believe that all people are created in the image and likeness of G-d.”
I don’t know if that is biblically sound but even if it was how come people are having themselves carved up and pumped full of hormones to imitate the opposite sex? Or having sex in their rectums? What God are you referring too? Jesus commented on these activities as pagan, and very much against the will of God.

cknuck, you never miss a chance to bring up same gender sex or those who wish to become what their brain tells them they are, do you? What is the hang up?

pagan peoples brains tell them lots of things, thanks for pointing that out I could do a lot with that statement but I won’t because I know you meant your best.

Don’t stop on my account, cknuck. Brains also tell a person what “gender” they are, and if the body doesn’t match then there is a problem. The outside doesn’t always match the inside. I know that is hard for some to understand.

cknuck-
Why are you so obsessed with transgendered people. Okay, fine you don’t condone what those individuals do. And, we understand that you believe that God does not condone what they do. But in the end, is it not their individual right to do as they please. If God does not condone their individual actions….then, I am pretty sure that God is powerful enough to handle it with the individual transgendered person.
Are you under the impression that transgendered people or some transgendered person is advocating that everyone change their physical bodies? Or, everyone be forced to change their physical bodies?
I for one have never read, heard, nor seen any transgendered person (group) even suggest that everyone should and/or be forced to do so. What I have read, heard, and seen is that transgendered people want to be treated with respect. This is the same respect each and every child of God deserves. And/or every citizen of the USA deserves. Take the religious route or the secular route…regardless, each individual deserves respect and has the right to make his/her own decisions about his/her own life and body as long as it is not adversely effecting someone else.
Your not liking something and/or believing that it is not want God would want does not count as adversely effecting you!
I continue to be amazed at how many pagans, atheists, Jews, Muslims, etc appear to be more aligned with the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ than many who proclaim their Christianity. It is not for me to judge the hearts and minds of others…..so, I am simply stating what I observe.
Peace!

In my previous post I intended to include gays in my point regarding transgendered people.
Sorry, as I reread it….I notice my omission.

JohnQ the Lord never taught acceptance of sin nor changing genders however we are warned about false gospels such as you push. The day that people like you can convince the world that telling the truth about a thing is obsession truly would be a sad day for the world. The bible does warn us about such a day.

So cknuck, no one in JC’s time were mentally not the gender they were outwardly? They’d have probably been killed if they even thought about mentioning it, and just suffered. As JohnQ asked, what is your obsession with transgendered folks? You bring it up at every opportunity. Really bugs you, huh? Sin is in the eye of the beholder.

the article is about homosexuals and transgenders falls into that category as much as you guys would love to closet them they are out and represent homosexuality, fair game for conversation.
As for your mental question, you’ve to be joking right?

Perhaps I didn’t word it correctly, cknuck.(but I think you knew what I was saying). What I was trying to say was perhaps in JC’s time there were folks who would have been happier if they could change their body to be compatable with their brain’s gender. Nothing new under the sun, cknuck.

“Catholic Patriarch Blasts Israel for Allowing Gay Parade”
It seems more and more it is the very job of “Catholic patriarchs” to “blast” things, people, events with which they disagree.
Go feed the hungry. Leave God’s queer folk alone.

ck,
You seem disordinately focused on other people and where they have sex, as if heterosexuals don’t “[have] sex in their rectums”.
Doth the lady protest a wee bit too much?

Yn your mental health issues are showing just a wee-bit.

pagan the fact remains they can never truly change their bodies

cknuck-
“JohnQ the Lord never taught acceptance of sin nor changing genders however we are warned about false gospels such as you push.”
Our Lord never taught that homosexuality is a sin. And, our Lord never taught about heart surgery……yet most of us accept it as a great tool to assist those who need/want heart surgery.
Being homosexual and being transgendered are no more the same than being heterosexual and being transgendered. Do not misunderstand, I certainly will defend transgendered people….as I would defend heterosexual and/of bi-sexual people. However, being transgendered is different than being homosexual, bi-sexual, or heterosexual….ya can’t just lump them together.
Peace!

cknuck: “pagan the fact remains that they can never truly change their bodies.”
Hello! cknuck…It’s called S U R G E R Y. Things can be added or subtracted. Bodies can “truly” be physically changed. There is also hormone therapy to cause physically changed. IMO, that is “truly” changed.

yes pagan it is called surgery and hormone therapy but it is not being change into anything but a person with surgery. Forensically the person will be identified as their original person. Proving once again what God has done cannot be undone.

JohnQ Matrimony: The Sacrament of Matrimony is the Sacrament which unites a man and woman in lawful marriage.
Biblical references: Matt 19:5; Mark 10:7-12; Eph 5:22-32; 1 Thess 4:4; Mal 2:14-16;
Matt 5:32-33; Matt 19:4-6,9; Mark 10:11-12; Lk 16:18; Rom 7:2-3; 1 Cor 7:10-11
Please show me your scriptures that support homosexual marriage.

All bible references do is prove that the men who wrote those words were living a couple of thousand years ago and slanted things the way they saw them at that time. Men wrote (oh, I forgot “divinely inspired men) the book, changed the book and made up things to put in the book. How a person thinks that that book should be a book to rely on for life advise is beyond me. The saying “take what you read with a grain of salt” is appropriate in this situation.

Assuming that any of what you think is true pagan still where are the scriptures supporting homosexuality. Homosexuality every now and again gains popularity and this was so in those days with both the Greek and Romans and other various pagan groups, but not so with the Jews, as a matter of fact there were laws against practicing it. When Jesus and other spiritual leaders commanded followers to not be like the pagans, homosexuality would be one of the characteristics inferred and heterosexuality would have been advised as a matter of fact they also counselled against masturbation. Once again people are going through great lengths to sanitize homosexuality, and I am confident we will see even more negative consequences from such a movement in our future especially from our youth.

Homosexuality is what it is, a fact of life,(gains popularity every now and then??) and one that some refuse to accept, cknuck. Not new to the world, and not evil in the world. As you say, it was around in JC’s time and in your interpretation of what JC said regarding those “pagans” (how do you know that it was acceptable to pagans in those days…you don’t) he suggested (or inferred? as you said, not commanded?) not to be like them. Of course he wouldn’t want his followers to follow pagan ways,because JC would lose some of his popularity. The youth of today are smart enough to realize that homosexuality is not something to hate, or be fearful of. No one is going to be homosexual just to be popular. The youth of today hopefully accept people for who they are(unlike some of the adults in their lives)…some heterosexual and some not. Simple really.

BTW, cknuck, there are many Jews now that no longer find homosexuality no longer “evil”.

“In classical antiquity, writers such as Herodotus,[1] Plato,[2] Xenophon,[3] Athenaeus[4] and many others explored aspects of same-sex love in ancient Greece. The most widespread and socially significant form of same-sex sexual relations in ancient Greece was between adult men and adolescent boys, known as pederasty”
And that’s just Greece I didn’t include Rome and some of the lesser groups.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece
Jews are all over the place pretty much like every other group but if they truly followed their religion homosexuality would be unacceptable, not hated but noted for it’s sinful nature.

cknuck, in between sexual encounters, the ancient Greeks made many contributions to Western Civilization, in philosophy, art, and architecture. We had the contributions of Socrates, Aristotle, and Plato. Greece’s folks contributed to Math and Science and were the first known democracy (which in my book is rather important). Also had some major things to do with sports and medicine. Now, if a bunch of pagans can do all that, cknuck, I’m not going to condemn their sexual habits. I have no problem with consenting adults having sex with whomever they want to. Obviously I don’t agree with grown men having sex with boys. (and I don’t agree with grown men having sex with young girls either). Pagans have contributed to the world in a lot of ways, cknuck, even though you’d like to forget that, thinking that only Christianity has done really good stuff.
Rome had it’s good qualities too. (and it’s sexual exploits). After all, it now has the POPE in it. (am not sure that is an advantage).
All this to say, the Catholic Patriarch needs to mind his very own business, or as I put it above, he should just “Bugger off.”

Quite humorous pagan, you’re going all Brit on me. I’m not discounting contributions I’m noting that homosexuality has cycles of popularity and that people across the board once it is popular become involved in it, not explained by genes, DNA, or hormones but by choice and persuasion

Let’s put it this way, cknuck, during those “cycles of popularity” a lot of good things were done, and actually, many of the current creative folks in today’s world have and are contributing to music, literature, theatre, dance etc. So, wonder how you explain that those folks who have no choice as to their sexuality are so darn creative, more so than many,many other folks? Can’t go with the choice and persuasion theory. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

creativity and sexuality are not exclusive nor does one proclive the other

Didn’t say they were exclusive, cknuck, only that many of our most creative folks now and in the past happened to be homosexual. So personally I’m glad for their contributions!

the catholic church of Adoph hitler, not yet excommunicated.

Why? just go to website http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm to see the truth about the vatican.

teh people who gave the world the hatred of the jews, which the catholic hitler leveraged to power and 55 million died. And the church prattles about protecting life – its smokescreen for its deep involvment int he worst of the worst of history’s bloody works.

the same church whose German born and bred Pope in 2009 UNexcommunciated a bishop williamson, who is a holocaust denier kicked out of the church of england.

The truth will set you free from the curse of western civilization – the vatican of absolute power amd a heart made out of swords filled with the blood of hundreds of millions of murdered people