Hooray! Let’s hear it for religious tolerance!
This “church” is a real credit to the principles upon which this country was founded – not.

And if they end up burning down their church because they didn’t listen to the fire safety folks, I guess that’s the Muslims’ fault too.

What a bunch of losers! Christian love? More like they represent what they claim to hate, those that represent radical Islam. They fall into the category of radical Christians, which, IMO, makes them just as dangerous.

is the bible any different? even the prophets were evil! moses had three thousand massacred in exodus 32 only for not sharing his beliefs, for no other reason. he then in numbers 15, if i’m correct, had a guy stoned to death for picking logs on the sabbath, presumably to feed his family
elijah massacred the prophets of baal after a showoff. is that tolerance?
… then u have 1 samuel 15:3 … the sacrifice of a little girl to jehovah in judges 12 … and what of the 31 cities mentioned in Joshua 12 where the jews exterminated EVERYONE in order to take over their land and property?
that just scratches the surface. if they’re gonna burn the quran they should also burn its equally iniquitous cousin the bible …

In this day you don’t need to please even a small fraction of the population. You will always please a few nuts no matter what you do if they hear of it, and in this case some will. So these people will gain support and no doubt money.
It will hurt the US, it will harm our troops but they don’t care; they’ll get their ego trip and their little fame.

“Where they burn books, at the end they also burn people”
Heinrich Hein, German poet

Bustin’ this church for burning without a permit will be like arresting Al Capone for tax evasion. It serves a good purpose but does has an anti-climactic feel to it.

It’s the emotions of these people who find burning books a solution, that’s so disturbing to rational people. What is it they hope to accomplish? They are breaking the law, and adding ozone to the already polluted atmosphere.

They really ought to change their name. Sad display; is this a Palin bunch?

There are ugly things in the Quran. And in the Jewish and Christian bibles.
I recommend Muslims burn the Quran and Jews and Christians burn their holy books. That way some bad books get burned and no one gets mad at other people.

maybe we all should just be godless like you nnmns?

Christians should be as wise as serpents and gentle as doves. I say avoid the air pollution and distribute the Korans to the restrooms. Have you seen the cost of toilet paper, lately?

Excellent idea, cknuck! We are certainly wiser than the Doves and cmag.

don’t pat yourself too hard on the back because if you were wise you’d realize you’re not wise enough.

Here’s a novel suggestion – instead of burning the Qurans – why not read them! These folks will be amazed at how important Jesus and the whole OT gang is in the book. They will even find a Christmas story in there.

i hope they will reconsider this decision. primal response of hate. are we sure this is a church?

Hey. I thought churches were places of religious freedom and expressions and of peace. What this church is doing is the opposite. You folks at this church should actually read the Quran and you might actually discover that We muslims hold Jesus in high regard.That being said, I really don’t think this is wise, I mean you don’t see muslims burning the bible and by the way that would never happen b/c we are tought to respect the Bible.

The Al-Qur’an and the Bible are more similar than not. Unfortunately ignorance, like lightning, takes the path of least resistance – aka, burning the book is much easier than reading it. Since Abraham is the father of both Judaism and Islam it seems to me that the dispute between these two factions is nothing more than the religious version of a family blood feud. Notwithstanding, God also promised that the descendants of Ishmael (Abraham’s son as well) would be a mighty nation. Isaac didn’t have a monopoly on God’s blessing.
Maybe if this church spent more time and energy on humanitarian aid (if you’ve done it to the least of these you have done it to ME – Jesus)and less time doing their own will in God’s name this world would be a much better place, let alone a much less hypocritical one.

This “church” is promoting hate and fear in the name of god…………… sound familiar.

Wow, next he’ll be saying Muslims shouldn’t be able to build mosques in America…

Teh stupid…it burns…

In our free society everyone is free to express own feelings, of course. But shouldn’t we be concerned of repercussions that might come to our brethren now already undergoing hard times in other parts of the world as result of this Gainesville, Fl celebration?

“But shouldn’t we be concerned of repercussions that might come to our brethren now already undergoing hard times in other parts of the world as result of this Gainesville,FL celebration.” JakaUisda
Excellent point, Jaka. I don’t think those in Gainesville are even considering that fact.

The Qur’an:
Allah managed to hand down quite a few “revelations” that sanctioned Muhammad’s personal pursuit of sex to the doubters around him. Interestingly they have become part of the the eternal, infallible word of the Qur’an, to be memorized by generations of Muslims for whom they have no possible relevance.
Qur’an (33:37) – “But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah’s command shall be performed.” No doubt millions of young Muslims, trying to outdo one another at memorizing the Qur’an, have wondered about what this verse means and why it is there. In fact, this is a “revelation” of convenience that Allah just happened to hand down at a time when Muhammad lusted after his daughter-in-law, Zaynab, – a state of affairs that disturbed local customs. The verse “commands” Muhammad to marry the woman (following her husband’s gracious divorce). As for why this should be part of the eternal word of God…?
Qur’an (33:50) – “O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her– specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; ” This is another special command that Muhammad handed down to himself that allows virtually unlimited sex, divinely sanctioned by Allah. One assumes that this “revelation” was meant to assuage some sort of disgruntlement in the community over Muhammad’s hedonism.
Qur’an (33:51) – “You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased” This is in reference to a situation in which Muhammad’s wives were grumbling about his preference for sleeping with a slave girl (Mary the Copt) instead of them. Accordingly, Muhammad may sleep with whichever wife (or slave) he wishes without having to hear the others complain… as revealed in Allah’s literal and perfect words to more than a billion Muslims.
Qur’an (66:1-5) – “O Prophet! Why ban thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?…” Another remarkable verse of sexual convenience concerns an episode in which Muhammad’s wives were jealous of the attention that he was giving to a Christian slave girl. But, as he pointed out to them, to neglect the sexual availability of his slaves was against Allah’s will for him!
Qur’an (4:24) – “And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” Allah even permitted Muhammad and his men to have sex with married slaves, such as those captured in battle.
From the Hadith:
Muslim (8:3309) – Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.
Bukhari (62:18) – Aisha’s father, Abu Bakr, wasn’t on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.
Muslim (8:3311) – The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad’s house (something to play with when the “prophet” was not having sex with her).
Bukhari (6:298) – Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.
Muslim (8:3460) – “Why didn’t you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?” Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an “older woman” instead of opting to fondle a child.
Bukhari (4:232) – Muhammad’s wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it’s a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.
Bukhari (6:300) – Muhammad’s wives had to be available for the prophet’s fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.
Bukhari (93:639) – The Prophet of Islam would recite the ‘Holy Qur’an’ with his head in Aisha’s lap, when she was menstruating.
Bukhari (62:6) – “The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.” Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally – and it isn’t hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268) – “The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.” I asked Anas, ‘Had the Prophet the strength for it?’ Anas replied, ‘We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.’”
Bukhari (60:311) – “I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires.” These words were spoken by Aisha within the context of her husband having been given ‘Allah’s permission’ to fulfill his sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses. (It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).
Tabari IX:137 – “Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as booty.” Muhammad considered the women that he captured and enslaved to be God’s gift to him.
Tabari VIII:117 – “Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself… the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims.” He sometimes pulled rank to reserve the most beautiful captured women for himself.
Tubari IX:139 – “You are a self-respecting girl, but the prophet is a womanizer.” Words spoken by the disappointed parents of a girl who had ‘offered’ herself to Muhammad.
Muhammad’s sexual antics are an embarrassment to those Muslims who are aware of them. This is particularly so for their prophet’s marriage to Aisha when she was 9-years-old. The thought of a 52-year-old man sleeping and bathing with a young girl is intensely unpleasant and it reflects the disgusting character of a sexual glutton rather than a holy man. Critics even allege that Muhammad was a pedophile.
Some Muslims respond by denying the hadith itself, which is a mistake. The accounts of Muhammad sleeping with a 9-year-old are no less reliable than those on which the five pillars of Islam are based. They have been an accepted part of tradition and did not become controversial until social mores began to change with the modern age.
The charge of pedophilia may or may not be true, depending on how it is defined. Technically, Muhammad did have a sexual relationship with a child, but Aisha was also the youngest of his twelve wives. Zaynab was in her 30′s when she attracted the unquenchable lust of the prophet. We don’t know the age of Muhammad’s sex slaves. They may or may not have been as young as Aisha, but there is no point in speculating.
Prior to the medical advances of the last century, marriage occurred at a much younger age across all societies. When life expectancy was in the mid 20′s (or lower), it made no sense to wait until 19 before having children. Otherwise, one ran the risk of not being around to raise them. In short, childhood as we know it was abbreviated by the reality of the times.
Another strong piece of evidence against Muhammad being a pedophile is that, according to the same Hadith, he waited from the time Aisha was six (when the marriage ceremony took place) until she turned nine to consummate the relationship. Although the text doesn’t say why, in all probability it was because he was waiting for her to begin menstrual cycles – thus entering into “womanhood.” It is unlikely that a pedophile would be concerned about this.
@Jestrfyl…
Qur’an…
On the other hand, Muhammad passed down revelations from Allah that clearly condoned sleeping with underage girls, even by the standard of puberty. Qur’an (65:4) lays down rules for divorce, one of them being that a waiting period of three months is established to determine that the woman is not pregnant. But the same rule applies to “those too who have not had their courses,” meaning girls who have not begun to menstruate. (In my opinion, this would have been a great time for Allah to have said something else instead like, “a real man is one who marries a real woman”… but that’s just me).
Thanks to Muhammad’s extremely poor judgment (at best) and explicit approval of pedophilia, sex with children became deeply ingrained in the Islamic tradition. For many centuries, Muslim armies would purge Christian and Hindu peasant villages of their menfolk and send the women and children to harems and the thriving child sex slave markets deep in the Islamic world. The Ayatollah Khomeini, who married a 12-year-old girl, even gave his consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against full penetration until the baby is a few years older). In April, 2010, a 13-year-old Yemeni girl died from injuries suffered to her womb during intercourse.
Some clerics show relative mercy on underage girls by advocating a process known as “thighing” (also known as child molestation in the West). According to a recent fatwa (known as 23672), the imam answers a question: “My parents married me to a young girl who hasn’t yet reached puberty. How can I enjoy her sexually?” by telling the ‘man’ that he may “hug her, kiss her, and ejaculate between her legs.”
Muhammad’s penchant for girls so much younger than him was such that at least two of his father-in-laws (Abu Bakr and Omar, the first two Caliphs) were actually younger than him as well. This disappointing pattern is very much at odds with the sort of sexual discipline that one might expect of a true “prophet of God.”
Muhammad’s pursuit of Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son is almost as tough for Muslims to explain. This is because it not only raises a similar question of moral character, but also casts suspicion on whether his so-called prophecies were really divine revelation or dictates of personal convenience. According to one biographer, even Aisha appears to be somewhat doubtful of Muhammad’s claim that Allah commanded him to marry Zaynab, wryly remarking, “Truly Allah seems to be very quick in fulfilling your prayers.”
So controversial was Muhammad’s desire to marry his adopted son’s wife that he had to justify it with a stern pronouncement from Allah on the very institution of adoption, which has had tragic consequences to this day. Verses 33:4-5 are widely interpreted to imply that Islam is against adoption, meaning that an untold number of children in the Islamic world have been needlessly orphaned – all because Muhammad’s lustful desires for a married woman went beyond even what the other six wives that he possessed at the time and a multitude of slaves could satisfy.
Some Muslims deny that Muhammad was married to more than four women at a time, merely on the basis that the Qur’an only gives permission for marrying four. Unfortunately, Muslims historians disagree. Only one of Muhammad’s last eleven wives died before him (Zaynab bint Khuzayma). The rest outlived him by many years.
Muhammad forbade his ten widows from remarrying, even making sure that this “divine” order was forever preserved in the eternal word of Allah – Qur’an (33:53). To add insult to injury, they were all summarily disinherited from Muhammad’s estate by his successor (courtesy of another divine order “given” to Abu Bakr from Allah).
In summary, Islam’s holiest texts portray Muhammad not as a perfect man, but as a sexual hedonist. Not only did he become fat from indulging in food, but his pursuit of sex was no less gluttonous. On top of it all, he used personal “revelations” from Allah to justify his debauchery to the gullible masses which, to this day, continue to be venerated and memorized as if they are the holiest of utterances

If they feel so strongly about this, then why not just burn one Qur’an? (For the record, I don’t believe they should burn any). Say what you will about the flag-burners, but they usually knew that a one’n'done deal was enough to get their point across. I suppose if they’re so irrational about this pathetic gesture to begin with, then one can’t expect rationale to enter into other aspects of the protest.

Burning books is a negative message of which they are saying they are, not good. I really do think they should change their name “Dove World Outreach Center” if they intend to do militant stuff this.

cmag: There was a point in posting all the above? All that means it is OK for the Dove folks to burn the Qur’ans? Have you read the OT by any chance? The folks in there (and some in the NT) weren’t exactly “angels”.
Burning the Qur’ans only proves that Christians are behaving as badly as the radical Muslims. It also helps inflame those radicals as well as probably helping them recruit more boys/men to their cause. Nothing good comes from this if in fat they do it. They may be as full of hot, useless air as many radicals in other religions.

cmaglaughlin very informative it is a good thing to give information so people can form a opinion, thanks.

If you think that only Muslims were marrying young girls, taking multiple wives, and condoning slavery during the 7th century C.E., then you need to take a world religions class.

Hey, did anyone lose a cloak of maliciousness? Because I think the Dove World Outreach Center found it!
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloak of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. 1 Peter 2:13-16
Nice job following your own holy book, guys!

Christians, is this REALLY something that Jesus would take part in?
I also want to state that the REAL effect of Christ’s death upon the Cross is of a lot more power than you have been taught.
John the Baptist proclaimed Christ as the “Lamb of God, which takes away the sins of the world.”
It is because of doctrine and dogma that the power of the Father’s Sacrifice has been reduced to only be available to those that say the “Sinner’s Prayer”. Did Paul not write in II Corinthians that “God was in Christ, reconciling THE WORLD unto Himself”?
Before you set flame to the books on the 11th, I heartily encourage everybody that would engage in such activity, to seriously spend some quiet time in prayer and waiting upon the Lord.
This action grieves me to the bottom of my heart!

It seems that the idiot is actually going to go through with burning the Qur’ans, if what he said on the ABC Nightly News tonight. He will do so unless GOD says not to. The man is out of his f***ing mind! He has been asked by many world leaders to not do so, as well as a top general. He actions put our military men and women in danger, and helps the Muslim extremists recruit more members. Guess he really doesn’t care. His fundamentalist church is tiny, 30 or so were in church last Sunday. Guess he wanted to give himself and his GOD some publicity.