There are a lot of small people in this country (or probably any country) who want to feel better than other people. The Republicans’ political opportunism in this issue, like in civil rights (after the Democrats finally kicked a lot of the bigots out of their party) amplifies these things and makes people feel ok about their bigotry.

This story deserves no mention it is so ridiculous and some as demonstrated delight in finger pointing and fanning the flames

The story cknuck doesn’t want you to read. That, in itself, suggests it’s worth taking a look.

Another excuse to scream ‘racism because I’m black, woe is me…’ even though I see nothing specifying black people as targets in all this fuss. If they’re so against racism, why do they designate themselves ‘Black Muslims’? I don’t see the term ‘Black Christians’. Why aren’t we just Christians, Muslims, citizens, etc?
As far as the Democrats kicking the bigots out and the Republicans seeing this as opportunism…that’s politics, baby. The Democrats were the biggest opponents of Civil Rights there were back in the day. The only reason they take up the cause now is to pimp themselves out for votes.

W. you must have not lived in the 50′s and 60′s. The Muslims that called themselves Black Muslims back in those days did that to uphold their race and faith. Martin Luther King marched and said we march in peace, the Black Muslims were a little noiser. But King and B.Muslims understood each other. The Democrats are always for the little guy, where have you been?

W there are political advantages and disadvantages to being for civil rights. At certain times, when the nation is generally feeling shocked at bigotry or magnanimous it may be a net advantage to be for civil rights. But more often than not I think bigots campaign harder than anti-bigots. A real shame but, I think, true.
Conclusion: Democrats lost political advantage when they kicked many of the bigots out. The Republicans’ Southern Strategy has worked well for them and this is more of the same. And I’m glad I’m a Democrat rather than a Republican these decades.

nnmns yet you rave and rage and use any topic to make political slams and cheap shots. If you are representation of Democrats then yes they are in trouble.
H22 I love it when people try to define the African American prospective especially from a middle-class Anglo imagination. You see I remember it much differently and I lived it. That being said there is no more threat being a Black Christian, Black Muslim, or Black Agnostic, in America. It’s inflammatory reactionary non-sense pulled out of political butts.

cknuck is in campaign mode.

Ck, you of course would know what went on in the 50′s and 60′s because you are black. I was addressing W, because of her comment about them calling themselves Black Muslims. Actually they called themselves the Black Panthers. I lived in Atlanta in 1951 to 1953, and it was pretty quiet then, but an undercurrent starting. MLKJr.’s Daddy had a large Church that my white friends would visit to hear him and his son MLK, Jr. preach,when he was in town. They thought that they were great. The older black muslims remember the opposition they all experienced, and they remember that their race and religion set them apart and they don’t want to have it happen again now when there appears to be such a back-lash for the muslim mosques in NYC.

H22 that more you claim to know about African American the more you reveal how truly little you do know. Black Muslims called themselves Black Panthers? huh? Do you actually realize how this statement sounds? “my white friends would visit to hear him and his son MLK, Jr. preach,when he was in town.” If you actually knew anything about black communities you would know that “race and religion” does not set them apart and the Muslims prosper quite nicely especially as entrepreneurs.

Henrietta, cknuck is one (presumably) man. His experience is his and what he now chooses to say about it is that, and that only. In any case him claiming to know what all black people experienced is like you or I claiming to know what all white people experienced. The difference is that you and I are wise enough to not do something like that.

nnmns I know enough to know that Black Muslims and Black Panthers are two different entities and Black Muslims for the most part are well disciplined, well educated and work hard at entrepreneur opportunities as for know “what all Black people experienced” I never made that claim, you and H22 seem to have that market cornered. I do think I just might have a better perspective than the both of you.

Binged info. I had the Panthers mixed up with the Black Muslim Group. The Panthers were an African-American revolutionary left-wing Org. working for self-defense for blk. people. Active from mid-1960′s into the 70′s. The Blk. Muslim, African-American religious movement in USA split since the late 1970′s into the American Society of Muslims and Nation of Islam. Then it goes on to explain its roots starting in 1930 and up to now, including Malcom X’s part. Interesting past. You nit pick too much Ck, nnmns and I aren’t trying to put anyone down, just understand them.

I did not say you were putting people down just spreading misinformation from a tone of an authority which obviously you don’t have. So you are saying if you spread misinformation about other African Americans I should not point it out?

Do you think “Bing” is spreading misinformation, too? By all means point out when you know why and how we are wrong. If you hadn’t I wouldn’t have Binged and found out the meanings of Black Panthers, and the Black Muslims for anyone that reads this. You found out something new too didn’t you Ck? You must have since you did nothing to explain why I was wrong in my first post about it.

It’s ok cknuck. I try to point it out when you spread misinformation and, let’s face it, that happens a lot.

nnmns and H22 don’t be so sore. Your kind of entitlement amazes me, it is a form of bigotry you know. You take African American history/heritage so causally and try to make of it what you will for your agendas. So don’t get angry when an actually African American points out your error about us, that’s pretty small and intolerant. You don’t own my history.

Neither do you, cknuck. And as you admitted it’s not “your” history. You don’t represent all black Americans, only one. Though you’d obviously like us to think and act as though you do.

there you go again, you make it too easy nnmns