I am going to continue exploring where I left off last week with my question: is Buddhism a religion or a way to approach living? The ONLY reason I think this question matters is that the ideas that the Buddha presented 2,000 years ago - a path to non-violence, compassion, mindfulness, and "right" behavior - are urgently relevant to our world today, and I have encountered no other system of personal exploration that offers such a straightforward approach to liberating one's mind from a swamp of craving and grasping. Unfortunately inaccurately calling the system we refer to as Buddhism a religion means that a huge portion of the world's population will never bother to explore the teachings, because they already have a religion. But back to why this matters. I see little likelihood that people who have not learned to at least make a real effort to be present, in this moment, have any chance of long-term implementation of the behavior changes we need to stop recklessly destroying our own mental and physical environment. Talking about "saving the planet" or "personal/communal evolution" with a list of actions to do and behavior (and lightbulbs) to change, without the tools to internally calibrate your mind to how to ACTUALLY change your behavior, is no different than buying plans for a house and a set of tools and hoping you can build it with absolutely no training or instruction in carpentry, electrical work, or plumbing. You're just going to end up making a mess of things.
Buddha was careful to not present dogma, or rules, or external authority; his techniques simply create a mental environment in which you are far more free to make informed choices about your own behavior, by showing you where your own mind is stuck in habitual grooves and shining a light on the tricks of your ego.
This is what the Buddha discovered, and he offers a pathway to discovering it for yourself. It isn't religion, or new age stuff - it's hardcore, on the ground, slap in the face and wake you up to reality stuff.
Buddha offers a path for anyone who seeks to walk it, regardless of other beliefs; religion sometimes offers a beautiful path, but it is most often in a gated community. This is why people fight in the name of religion - this identity with creation myth and god-identity can be so central to a person's life that it becomes impossible to tolerate someone taking an opposing view. Sometimes innocent belief becomes twisted into an idea that true allegiance to the god(s) requires destroying as many non-believers as possible. The fact cannot be avoided that with all the religions on planet Earth, most of them chosen not by logic but by birth, we essentially have numerous bloodline tribes, each with their own belief system, and not all of them (if any) can be right. Where major world religions begin with creation myths, creators, and assertions that "this religion" is the right way because that religion's creator made it so, Buddha begins from recognizing the common traits of the human condition and offering a precise, logical, almost clinical, prescription for how to overcome this basic dissatisfaction. In the process you will likely become a more compassionate, less violent, less destructive human being.
There is no creator posited in the core teachings of the Buddha - but he does not expressly say there wasn't one. You might postulate that to him, in this present moment, the human condition at this moment alone is the only thing that matters, and to concern himself with gods, creators, and the past was the opposite of what he was teaching, no different than concerning himself with how well he slept last night or whether to have red or white wine with dinner. It's not an error of omission - it's an omission of the unnecessary.
And so if there is a God, it is you, even though you are not God. More to the point - you can follow what the Buddha taught, and also believe in God, or not believe in God, or not care either way - it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because it's totally irrelevant to your experience of the present moment. When you start to really pay attention to everything that's NOT happening between your thoughts, even if it's only for a tiny fraction of a second, you have started truly taking responsibility for being right here, right now, and to stop worrying about all kinds of stuff that's totally out of your control.
This leads to the inevitable conclusion (because God always wins these arguments) that because some Buddhist traditions have incorporated deities and theism into the teachings, therefore only Buddhists who incorporate deities and theism into their practice are "true Buddhists" and everything else is just a light. And just like every other highly codified religion, there are Buddhist lineages that include gods, that have run into the same problems that other religions do - smacking face first against the wall of defensibility. But the fact that you can be Buddhist without having to follow one of those lineages - you can follow Buddha's teachings and believe or not believe in God - is an important point. Can you be Christian and not believe in that religions description of God?Jewish? Muslim? You cannot. Buddhism uniquely does not present a unified version of god(s) - because god(s) are not essential to the practice.
The fact that Buddha himself was careful - in a time when theistic religions were all the rage - to neither embrace nor reject the existence of god(s) is not a winning argument with those who want to dig in and label Buddhism as a religion, to the detriment of the accessibility of the Buddha's teachings. They often seem more interested in defending the particular cultural attachments that THEY have decided are "truly Buddhism" than they are in the actual teachings of the Buddha himself. When confronted by a non-Asian person with the unassailable fact the Buddha himself so precisely did not accept or reject the presence of god, they often claim racism, imperialism, even ignorance. But this does not change one simple thing. For Buddha's teachings to work, no god is necessary - no creator, no higher power - simply the desire to evolve your mind away from craving and into non-craving. This is not a rejection of god or religion - Buddha's teaching are not theist, nor are they atheist. Though most of the people who practice Buddhism today do so exclusively (largely because of the label of religion), there is no reason to presume that his teachings are incompatible with following a religion like Judaism or Christianity. Though his teachings may lead a religious person to a different understanding of themselves and their relationship to god, I would consider that a deepening of spirituality rather than a contradiction.
Because Buddhism, by default, has been described as a religion, it is unlikely to achieve the kind of widespread acceptance that the Buddha's teachings would require in order to achieve the kind of sea change our world so badly needs, from a mindset of selfishness to one of selflessness (or at least less-selfishness). I know, based on last week's response, that I'm going to get comments that start with "What a load of crap, I don't know where to begin" or "Another ignorant post from the Interdependence Project" or "Let me tell you why you're wrong". But I'm not writing this to start a fight or to push buttons.
I'm writing this because my personal experience with Buddhist teachings has been so transformative and relevant and provided so many specific tools to "build a new house" in my mind, one that is indisputably creating better conditions for myself and others on this planet. I cannot take credit for this change - I must credit practicing Buddhism for beginning to reveal something that was already within me, and within everyone. I only came to study the practice because I fortunately live in a cool spot and happened to stumble on a community who also saw the value in applying Buddha's teachings to our daily urban lives. I think it's a huge shame that his teachings will remain unavailable to so many people who could benefit from them, simply because a large portion of the Buddhist community is so attached to a label.
So before you start piling on, ask yourself this - if you are taking the position that Buddhism absolutely is a religion, and I am taking a position that Buddhism does not have to be a religion but can be practiced as one if you choose to follow a religion based on the Buddha's teachings, why does my inclusionary approach cause you such stress? And those of you that agree, or have a personal experience with an overlap between Buddhism and religion, please share your stories too.

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Interesting discussion. Back in the sixties, in a Supreme Court opinion, it was stated belief in a deity wasn’t necessary for a belief system to be designated as a religion. Buddhism and Ethical Humanism were cited as examples if I remember correctly. We all have belief systems we live by whether we realize it or not. To me a person’s belief system/world view is his religion. By that definition Buddhism is most certainly a religion and like all belief systems states it’s the best way to navigate, understanding, know and handle reality, so in that sense it’s just like any other religion.
Thanks Greg for pointing out that Buddhism is atheistic – it certainly does deny there is a personal, self-existent, eternal “He Who Is” (one translation of the Hebrew name for God –YHWH) Creator. In a culture with “In God we trust” printed on the money it’s hard not to soften the intrinsic atheism of Buddhism. Even saying that Buddha was merely saying God was irrelevant or besides the point is really saying the “God as the center of everything” understanding of monotheism is part of the delusion to overcome by seeing things as they really are. Applying Jesus words “Love the Lord your God with all your soul, mind, strength and heart” would in Buddhist eyes be a strengthening of delusion and a departing from truth – unless you do a very thorough redefinition of what Jesus meant by God as a first century Old Testament believing Jew.
Buddhism is pointing to something better than an unreal God! Time to get comfortable with stating that honestly if you’re a Buddhist.
A quick, tongue-in-cheek superficial comparative religions class – In Hinduism it’s a sin to say you are NOT God, In Christianity it’s a sin to say you ARE God, and in Buddhism it is a sin to say you are anything at all!
By the way I am a Christian and strive to be thoroughly God the Father centered in imitation of Jesus.
Blessings!
@Christopher Mohr
Wow. The general rudeness and the number of self serving assumptions and seemingly ego-driven opinions in your posts is impressive but not very helpful for this or any discussion. Like many reading this I am going to ignore the temptation to respond to your various points because I've had plenty of experience with "loud talker" types and realize that it's useless to try to get you to discuss this topic politely (see, annoying when people label you without knowing you isn't it).
However forceful you make your points I'm still of the mind that faith-based belief systems and the closed minds they produce are rushing humanity towards its demise, and unless something changes we're all toast in the next few hundred years (if even that long). The religious gobbledygook that you consider so vibrant I consider to be stale, antiquated modes of thought that humanity must outgrow for us to have a chance. The concrete has set around the big dog religions and setting up another inflexible pillar next to them will change nothing.
The only chance we're got IMHO is to find a way to get the mechanism of Buddhism to be acceptable to even those stuck in their current religious mire.
You may now call me a new age hippie whatever and begin questioning my background, intentions, mental capacity, patriotism and body odor.
-DD
my take - Buddhism is more religious in some cultural manifestations than others. For example Chinese Temple Buddhism is outwardly almost exactly the same as Christianity - temple (i.e. church) service, hymn-sheet, bowing, praying, led by a priest. This is a very common pattern in Taiwan, Singapore, parts of China, and among Chinese expats.
As regards the meditation-based practises suh as Vipassana and Zen - these are much less ritual-oiented with a much greater emphasis on insight, self-discpline and philosophical wisdom. Vipassana as taught by Goenka is self-consciously secular and anti-dogmatic: 'this is not an organised religion but a way of looking into oneself'. Zen actually has a lot more ritual than many will admit, and many of them beautiful; John Daido Loori has written a beautiful book on that.
Buddhism is religious in that in comprises an ethical code which requires a personal firm commitment from the practitioner, and also accepts absolutely Dharma and Karma. I also personally believe that Buddhism requires an acceptance of 'the life beyond'.
But the key difference, the really crucial difference, between Buddhism and Christianity is the idea in the latter of 'Holy Communion' and the original dogma (forgotten by many) 'extra ecclesium nulla sallus' ('no salvation outside the Church'.) So in this kind of religion, your whole salvation is entirely dependent on your submission to the dogmas of the Church and your absolute unquestioning submission to the belief that the Communion 'really is' the Body and Blood, and so on. There is no room for questions, no 'search' or anything else. You take it and go to heaven, or leave it and go to hell. That is what religion was for us in the West up until a couple of hundred years ago. And Buddhism was never lke that.
christopher mohr
what's the name of your order?
Christopher Mohr wins. Glad to see someone who knows what they are talking about. Only thing I can add is this, hope it helps someone out there (as if):
Sorry to see the Dharma (or Dhamma if you prefer) reduced to feel-good fluffy-bunny psycho-babble.
The real Dharma Jewel is not the words, but the realizations that come from the practices they describe. The words are a carrier-signal, the realizations are the message. Realizations are passed from teacher to student in a lineage.
Meditation a fine tool. It can be used for lots of things (including feeling better). But its highest use is for ending suffering altogether forever, i.e. birth, sickness, old age and death. Serious business.
Read, folks, from someone who has put the actual teachings into practice and gotten some authentic realizations. Then go to them, or someone like them.
You can't learn to play rock guitar by reading a book by Eddie Van Halen. If you somehow had Eddie as a teacher, you still couldn't learn by worshiping him. "Eddie, you're so great." "Thanks, but did you try those cords I showed you?" "Uh, no, but, you're so great."
I digress.
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