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Obama's new church: St. Elsewhere's?

Monday June 29, 2009

Or St. Nowhere's? In a report disputed by the White House, TIME's Amy Sullivan writes that the much-anticipated decision on where the Obama's would worship has been settled, and instead of joining a congregation in Washington, Obama will do like W. and...
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Mike Sweitzer-Beckman
June 29, 2009 3:25 PM
http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/obama-winner-pope-president-envy-scale

It's interesting to think about Obama trying to go to church somewhere and, while church-hunting is familiar to many who move around, it is true we don't have the other variable of being the POTUS.

I wonder though - if Obama were looking for a larger congregation and denomination to be a part of - would he be more popular than the pope in DC?

This article indicates he is not.

JAB
June 29, 2009 3:47 PM

We makes the biggest deals about the smallest things. Who cares where they worship? It is their personal business. I noted that even the U.S. News and World Report faith blog felt the need to report this.

Cindy
June 29, 2009 4:32 PM

I'm sorry but I think this quote by Gilgoff:

"George W. Bush, who was perceived as intensely religious, could afford to worship quietly at Camp David. Obama, who's still establishing himself as a Christian in the public eye and who continues to battle false rumors that he's a Muslim, could afford to flaunt his Sunday-morning habits a bit more"

is beyond stupid.

I think it is insulting, especially to the public but also to the Obamas, to George Bush (who I normally don't care if people insult) and actually I think it is insulting to the whole idea of worship.

And religion. And faith.

As if it is all about what it looks like and what others who are watching me need to feel comfortable with, or believe, my faith and belief.

Gross.

Cindy
June 29, 2009 4:33 PM

That last sentence should read:

As if it is all about what it looks like and what others who are watching me need to feel comfortable with, or believe about, my faith and beliefs.

(I left out "about")

Frank Clyburn
June 29, 2009 5:25 PM

I feel that Mrs. Obama may be a Christian, but I think that Mr. Obama has no real desire to be so described......with his early training as a Muslum he may or may not be confused as to his faith, if any, but in this country, he must have an appearance of being Christian....must be hard on him!

Emily Jane
June 29, 2009 7:47 PM

What this nation needs is a good Episcopalian president, one who supports gay marriage, women in authority, and free thinking in faith.

Mr Obama shouldn't be afraid to assert his faith in public, and from what I've seen, I think he'd make a great Episcopalian.

David Gibson
June 29, 2009 10:00 PM

Emily Jane: Not to cast stones, but Mark Sanford is an Episcopalian.

ann
June 29, 2009 10:15 PM

What would make somebody honestly question Mr.Obama's belief in Jesus and what right would we have to do so? IS it because he professes to believe in Jesus as Christ and tries to live accordingly? One can disagree with him on issues but to cast such an unjust statement his way is beyond arrogant not to mention unkind.

Aren't they suppose to know we are Christians by our love?

Mareczku
June 29, 2009 10:27 PM

What is the "C Street" route. Is Mark Sanford an Episcopalian? I read somewhere that Mrs. Sanford is Catholic. Is this true? I think where the Obamas worship is their decision but I can see the hardship in joining a church in Washington, DC.

pagansister
June 29, 2009 10:28 PM

The Obama family should certainly go where they feel comfortable. It appears they have chosen a place to do their worshiping. No problems with me if they didn't go anywhere.

Cindy
June 30, 2009 7:17 AM

"C" street is a reference to "The Fellowship" isn't it? That renowned powerful Evangelical secret society that helps fallen congressmen and presidents recover their power base after they slide into sexual sin?

There doesn't seem to be a reason for President Obama to attend.

But perhaps once his evil Muslim roots reassert themselves, and his agenda to overthrow the country in favor of becoming an African satellite of Mugabwe's dictatorship come to fruition then he may need to avail himself of such. I imagine all his nefarious intentions do include infidelity to his wife but that is so tame considering just how perfectly evil he truly is.

/irony off.

Your Name
June 30, 2009 8:36 AM

It is none of our business where Mr. Obama worships, but of course being in public office it is made our business. How great the burden placed on any public figure when he is not permitted his own personal expression of faith.

ann
June 30, 2009 9:10 AM

well done Cindy!

pagansister
June 30, 2009 11:02 AM

Little lack of trust there, Cindy? Even if President Obama was Muslim (and he's not) what would be the problem? Christianity is better? Not necessarily. An understanding of other faiths might make the world a better place, but most folks keep insisting their's in the only ones. No wonder there are religious arguments. No one faith is the best.

Cindy
June 30, 2009 1:27 PM

Pagan Sister -- you did see the /irony off at the end of my post, right?

I don't care a whit if President Obama was Muslim, Hindu, Atheist or even (gasp) Catholic.

I do tend toward belief of the person professing the faith, so since he says he is Christian then I tend to say he is a Christian. Not because I think Christianity is better, but because it is his choice to believe and to name that belief.

It has always amazed me, throughout the entire election cycle (wasn't it a 100 year cycle toward the 2008 election?) that an "accusation" of Muslim faith would be so odious as to require some proof of its falsehood.

What? Don't we actually protect and value freedom of religion in this country? Well, if not in the country at least in our Constitution?

But, I digress.

I was simply poking fun at the ubiquitous Muslim-scare tactics that continue to be thrown at the President.

pagansister
June 30, 2009 3:22 PM

Sorry, Cindy. My mistake. However there are some who post who would be serious about what you wrote as you know,...still being convinced Obama is a Muslim and all the "evil" that conjures up in some folks.

Yes, it is amazing that in 2009 that as "accusation" of Mulsim faith would be so odious as to require proof of it's falsehood.

Having reread your post..'tis well done, as expressed by ann.

on the journey
June 30, 2009 9:51 PM

it should not matter where he prays, but that he prays
surely there are more serious matters facing us
but this sure is fun!

Jasmine Jones
July 1, 2009 8:02 PM

How can you really believe in God and practice his beliefs, and say you are a true believer in God,if you believe in Gay Rights. Same sex marriage is wrong and the United States will fall like the Roman Empire.

pagansister
July 1, 2009 9:17 PM

Jasmine Jones:

How is it any of your business and how does it affect you if homosexuals marry? It doesn't. It's called equality for all. Not to worry, the USA isn't going anywhere. BTW, there are many true Christians who know that their creator loves all his/her creations and accepts hetetosexuals and homosexuals. What is the expression I've heard many Christians say? "God doesn't make mistakes."

God is the only God
July 6, 2009 11:22 AM

God does love all of his creations more than anything, and he accept them all, but only after they repent of their sins.

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