Prayer, Plain and Simple

Prayer, Plain and Simple

On Mahatma Ghandi’s Birthday – A Challenge to Pray to a Personal God

posted by Mark Herringshaw | 1:52pm Friday October 2, 2009

Today is Mahatma Ghandi’s birthday. Ghandi, the spiritual and national father of post-British India is renowned for his none-violent strategies of revolution that led his nation into independence.

In my new book, The Karma of Jesus I tell a story of Ghandi recounted by the Christian writer E. Stanley Jones. Here’s that excerpt.

When the bell sounded at 3:45 AM the pilgrims who had come to Mahatma Gandhi’s ashram in Sabarmati, India rose and silently processed to the river bank to say their prayers. In 1927 Stanley Jones stayed there with Gandhi eight days, and each morning joined the prayer march under the stars. The experience had a profound impact on him. In Christ at the Round Table Jones recalls listening to the droning chants, then the quaint, sad voice of Gandhi expounding on the Bhagavad Gita. He marveled that such a slight man, wearing only a loin cloth of cotton spun on his own wheel wielding nothing more than his own personal discipline, good will and a strategy of non-violent civil disobedience could command such power, a power he imagined might one day bring the mighty British Empire to its knees.

Following one of these prayer walks Jones approached Gandhi to tell him about the “Round Table” gatherings he had initiated across India where people from many faiths came to share how their religious faith impacted their personal experience. Gandhi seemed intrigued and agreed to have a similar heart to heart conversation with Jones. Jones kept confidential most of the intimate details of their discussion, but he did relay one telling exchange. 

Gandhi began. “The more I empty myself the more I discover God,” he confessed. “The world is a well-ordered machine and we may discover God in obeying its laws, but no miracles are to be expected, and it may take ages.” Gandhi then went on to acknowledged that he hadn’t yet found spiritual enlightenment. Jones recalled reading a steely determination and what he named “noble despair” in the pundit’s eyes, as if he had braced himself for a long uncertain struggle.   

When Stanley Jones returned to his own cottage near the compound’s spinning room, Gandhi’s words haunted him. “The world is a well-ordered machine… No miracles are to be expected… No miracles are to be expected…” Was this the best hope from the best of men? If the Mahatma, the “Great Soul” had not found enlightenment, what hope had an ordinary man?

Jones recalled his own experience. 25 years before he too had felt bankrupt and despaired of every reaching God. Then he’d given his soul to Christ, a person, not a machine. At that moment a miracle had happened. He knew it. It had not taken ages. It had taken only a moment of surrender, a simple exchange of life for life. The next day Jones met Gandhi again and he shared this story. The two men walked and talked and wept together, yet each out of very different state of heart.

Karma exists, Jones concedes. The world is in fact a “well-ordered machine.” But mechanics need not define the baseline. The “Karma machine” might have a Designer, Someone with a will independent from the design itself The “Everything” behind everything could be a Person. Seeing things this way gives the world a very different look and feel.

God is personal. We can meet him and know him and relate through prayer to him personally. E. Stanley Jones’ challenge to Gandhi is also a challenge to us… A challenge to pray!



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posted October 3, 2009 at 9:22 am


My first note is that the correct spelling of the Mahatma is GANDHI, not Ghandi, as is popular in this part of the world (West of India!)
I would like to comment on Gandhiji (a respectful suffix of ‘ji’ added to his name,) as a man ahead of his time in the reduce, reuse, and recycle philosophy. He tried his best to use every little article he found, and after it had outlived its usefulness in its ‘avatar,’ try and find some other use for it.
He always used Post Cards, issued by the Indian Post Office, for his correspondence. This was one of, and still continues to be, the poor man’s choice as it costs pennies.
There are innumerable stories, which show his pollution control, and one has to but access the web.
He was, and continues to be, an inspiration for people of my generation -the Baby Boomers – and the older surviving Indian Freedom Fighters. Perhaps Gandhi may not have liked the use of the word, “Fighters,” because it implies violence, while his “fight,” for independence was totally non-violent!



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posted October 3, 2009 at 5:16 pm


The book of Ephesians is very useful in this issue about fighting
a good fight of faith.In the book,in my understanding talks about
wrestling not in the flesh,but from principalities,darkness thats around us.We are to take the words of God as our swords in fighting,battling or wrestling the hardest trials that comes to every
believer,the world is not and shall remain peaceful when we know all the great commisssion the word of God brings when we take them at heart,and will make us Victorious over the darkness thats around us.



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posted October 5, 2009 at 7:29 am


Hi,
This is very nice article about the spiritual thinking towards god as a person and as a view of great human being(Mahatma Gandhi).



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