Prayer, Plain and Simple

Prayer, Plain and Simple

Should Prayer on a Public Sidewalk Be Grounds for Arrest?

posted by Mark Herringshaw

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Offended? A 25-year-old Northwestern graduate student named Joseph Holland was charged with disorderly conduct for praying in front of a Planned Parenthood facility in Chicago. Holland claims he was standing still praying the rosary on a public sidewalk on July 3 when police arrested him for violating the city’s new “Bubble Zone” ordinance, a law passed last October that prohibits approaching or interfering with anyone entering or leaving a health care facility.

Were Holland’s prayers “interfering” with people entering Planned Parenthood?

What do you think? Does prayer on a public sidewalk constitutes interference and should be grounds for arrest?



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Marian

posted August 2, 2010 at 1:55 pm


Matthew 6:5-6 (King James Version)
5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.



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Chris

posted August 2, 2010 at 4:00 pm


“What do you think? Does prayer on a public sidewalk constitutes interference and should be grounds for arrest?”
I think that you, and many other news sources, are asking the wrong questions.
It’s not a question of whether or not prayer on a public sidewalk constitutes interference and is grounds for arrest, its a question of how and where can you protest without breaking laws.
I don’t care that Joe Holland was praying, he could have been doing a broadway song and dance outside of this abortion clinic. The bottom line is that he and the persons with him were protesting this abortion clinic. Just look at the sign the person next to Joe Holland is holding (signs are mentioned in Chicago’s Bubble Law), they were protesting – that’s plain as day. It doesn’t matter how they were protesting (praying, broadway song and dance), the act they were carring out was protesting.
There are many laws which tell us how far we can go with a protest, even those Westboro Baptist goon’s free speech is limited. They are not allowed to be within so many feet of a soldiers funeral, even if there is a public sidewalk right alongside of wherever that soldier is being burried. At both the democratic and republican national conventions there are designated protest areas for the opposing party. I don’t care if there is a public sidewalk that leads up to the entrance of a building which these events are being held, you cannot stand there and protest.
Whether limiting a person’s complete freedom to protest on public property is unconstitutional is another matter. But this is all about the limits of protest, it has nothing to do with communicating with your supernatural diety.



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nnmns

posted August 2, 2010 at 6:43 pm


The author(s?) of this blog, whoever they are, seem to be of the “Coax Christians to whine” persuasion. Some Christians whine plenty without being coaxed but political power can be gained by the coaxing, directly or indirectly.
I’d like to see whomever writes this whining blog show the courage to sign his or her name(s?).



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Lyn

posted August 3, 2010 at 7:40 am


nnmns
The author of the blog is posted at the bottom of every posting.



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Kathy Skaff

posted August 11, 2010 at 9:30 am


I want to make it perfectly clear right away that I am of strong Christian beliefs and oppose abortion clinics and violence of any kind. But, I don’t understand how standing in front of a building holding a sign and praying is obstructing anyone from going into that building. I admittedly do not know anything about the “Bubble Zone” so maybe I should not comment. However, don’t we have the right to “protest” peacefully about something we truly believe in? I emphasize “PEACEFULLY”. If this young man was standing IN the doorway preventing someone from going into the building then I agree that it would be wrong. Again, I do not know anything about the “Bubble Zone” law.



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posted August 16, 2010 at 11:53 am


I don’t think that there is enough information given in the article to accurately formulate an opinion on whether or not what this man was doing could be considered disorderly conduct. We would need to know what eye witnesses said concerning the incident.



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