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Palin's Religion: What's Scary, What's Not?

Thursday September 11, 2008

Beliefnet's Steve Waldman wrote about Sarah Palin's faith in a way that seems balanced and intelligent to me.  You can find his full text below: Those on the left, or merely those who aren't evangelical Christians, are struggling to make...
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Warren Cheswick
September 11, 2008 3:33 PM

I'm just so sick of hearing about Sarah Palin. I was getting ready for work this morning and flipped on GMA right at 7:00 am (c), and they led with (1) a story about Palin's triumphant return to Alaska, and then (2) Obama's reaction to the "Swiftboat politics" of "lipstick gate." (or is it "piggate") Poor John McCain. He's somewhere in the background repeating that famous line from Monty Python's Holy Grail:

"I'm not dead yet."

The fact that this obviously wacky woman has created such a stir and has upset the polls to such a degree only proves that America is full of wacky fundamentalists.

Well, there's another theory I'd like to float, too. Take another woman with the same background, the same religious beliefs, the same political ties as Palin, but she looks like Janet Reno (no offense, Ms. Reno). Think she creates this kind of celebrity splash? Nope. The nation would give that woman at the best a sound thrashing, at the worst a long, collective yawn.

I seriously think that the next step our nation will take casting us even deeper into idiocracy will be to elect Angelina Jolie president and Brad Pitt VP.

Asinus Gravis
September 11, 2008 4:24 PM

I find it a bit scary that you and Palin both seem to think it makes sense to assume that God approves of some nations going to war.

I can find nothing in the character of the God revealed in Jesus of Nazareth to suggests or implies that such is an open question. Of course a war is not part of his plan. Nor is it permissible for any of his followers to be active participants in perpretrating any war.

If your God is the God of American Nationalism, i.e., the civic religion of the USA, then it is highly likely that whatever war is being considered it is a part of that God's plan.

Reader John
September 11, 2008 8:37 PM

Thank you for conceding what many progressive sorts wouldn't: that Palin's comment on the war was not a pronouncement that it's God's will.
The comment on the gasline wasn't very artful, but I'm not convinced that it declares or assumes the pipeline is God's Will. Bear in mind that it was extemporaneous to an Assemblies of God group, too. Isn't a Christian elected official permitted to speak more of spiritual matters and aspirations in Church than would be seemly in office?
The quote on people's hears being right with God is, I believe, wrested from context. I'm not keeping score very well, but my recollection of the whole quote was more along the lines of politics being ultimately less important than spiritual matters. Where she said it would be important to know, too. Kinda like real estate, only it's "context, context, context" instead of "location, location, location."
My perspective in all this is that of a former evangelical, now Eastern Orthodox, who is well aware that an evangelical theocracy would mean iconoclasm and the indoctrination of my grandchildren in something like the "Protestant hegemony" of public schools in the 50s raised to the Nth degree. I just don't think there's really much taste for theocracy among evangelicals, or that those fragmented folks, whose "unity" is skin deep at best, could pull it off if they wanted to.

Warren Cheswick
September 11, 2008 10:27 PM

I watched quite a bit of the Charlie Gibson interview. No offense to her - she seems like a nice person. But seriously? She makes Bush sound like William F. Buckley. She stumbled around and hemmed and hawed her way through every question he asked her, sounding like a naive, unsophisticated neophyte. If she can't stand up to Charlie Gibson, what chance she could stand up to someone like Putin, if the need ever arose. It was an embarrassment.

This choice is a disgrace and a slap in the face to the American people.

revmax
September 13, 2008 8:25 AM

I'm with Warren. It made Dan Quayle look like a smooth talking persuader. And a man of reason.

But it is true that a lot of the reporting about her religious beliefs seems like it doesn't know where to start. A lot of the reports/reporters don't separate the language that many faithful people might use (or at least recognize) from the things that we wouldn't.

It's as if she gets slammed for having the temerity to be faithful, when the real issue as I see it is that she has the temerity to be faithful so superficially -- to invoke religious language on behalf of a political agenda, and then claim that her politics flow from her religious commitments.

I'm not convinced.


Susan
September 14, 2008 10:49 AM

I thought that scariest thing about Sarah Palins's is belonging to a church where a pastor would invite a "Jew" for Jesus to speak.

I live in Philadelphia and whenever a "Jew" for Jesus is invited to speak at any church in the area, it create and interfaith incident. It would be written up in the local Jewish newspaper, and the ADL would get involved.

I put Jew in parenthesis because one cannot be a Jew and accept Jesus as you savior. If you tell people that you can be both at the same time you are lying. There isn't much that all Jews can agree on, but this is the exception.

It is not just about the unfortunate comments. The goal of these organization is to convert ALL Jews. Thne there would be no Jews left on the planet.

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