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God, Marriage and Proposition 8

Tuesday October 21, 2008

Given war, hunger, and the world-wide economic meltdown, it's hard for me to have a lot of patience with the ideologues who, once again, have dragged the issue of gay marriage onto my state's ballot as if it were the most burning issue facing this country.  But I think it's critical, especially for people of faith, to oppose Proposition 8, which would eliminate some citizens' rights to marry.

As a Christian, I'm voting NO on Proposition 8 because I believe in religious freedom, and the importance of keeping the state separate from our churches.

Marriage is a civil contract: currently, in California all citizens share equal rights to enter into this contract. 

A civil marriage, of course, does not require religious authorities to endorse it, perform it, or even like it. You're a Catholic priest, and you don't want to let a divorced woman get married in your church? Fine. You're a rabbi and you don't want to perform a marriage between a Christian and a Jew? Fine. You're a Presbyterian minister and you don't want to marry two men? Fine. But what's not OK is for religious authorities to decide what legal rights the state can give to divorced people, or gay people, or people outside their faith traditions.

The sacraments or rituals of any faith do not belong to the state. And my civil rights should not depend on someone else's religious beliefs.

 

 

 

 

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Your Name
October 25, 2008 12:32 AM

Blue collar,

Your marriage needs more "defending" from the likes of Britney (55 hours) Spears, Rick Rockwell & Darva Conger (who turned marriage into a TV game show prize), and Mickey (8 marriages and counting) Rooney than it does from committed, loving gay couples.

richard
November 6, 2008 1:43 PM

I am shocked, apalled, & awakened! First of all, I am black and proud of it. Obama was equally elected for president of the USA by the will of the people. Now, there are only few folks who want to overturn the legal passaged of proposition 8 by an illegal act of force! Proposition was legally passed by the will of the people, for the people, & by the people! Why don't they also just overturn OBAMA'S legal election that was won by the will of the people? In addition, being gay is fully 100% free CHOICE that they are making for themselves. They are crying to the world for more special rights and treatments for their act of choice. They are NOT born gay or lesbians. They are choosing to live a UNnatural sexual lifestyle. Yet, they want us to give them more special rights. They are already have millions of dollars in their bank accounts! Gays drive the most LUXURIOUS cars. They are actors, singers, movie stars and they want more special treatments! Give us a break! We had enough of their rich spoiled life. We around the world are struggling to make ends meat while they are spending over 70 MILLION dollars in no prop 8 for more special protection of a free CHOICE of sexual living that they are making for themselves! Why don't they give some of their $$$ millions of dollars by helping the poor? Why don't they help homeowners pay off their mortgages? Why don't they help create more jobs? Why don't they donate millions to childrens hospitals? Why don't gays come out to donate more of their money to inner citys? Instead, they keep buying more toys, more gold, more mansions & more mercedes while we americans are suffering in these hard economic times! I say we had enough of their tricks, manupilation, & perverted lifestyle and special treatments! They never had fallen under the discrimanatory act because they werre not BORN that way. They made a choice of being gay! Therefore, we shouldn't pay, and support their choice of unnatural lifestyle. We should start a new proposition that prohibits gays from adopting babys too! And we are tired of their nonsense! They must stop comparing themselves with black americans. And start waking up to their foolishness! We want a better economy! we want common sense! We want truth! We want purity for America!

It is time for America to wakes up! & Defends her little childrens!

nancy
November 6, 2008 1:57 PM

richard is right, i supported yes on 8 and if gays want to continue being gay then that's their personal choice. but don't push you choices on us. we are not asing anything from you. you already have billions of dollars to spare and spend. you spend your life in clubs doing your choice of making out. no one is making you do it. it's your call. so you cannot be protected under discrimanation because you were never and are not born homesexual.

so don't push you complains to us.

Jennifer
November 16, 2008 9:14 AM

Sara, I couldn't agree with you more. Very well said. Those who are adamantly opposed to equal rights still have the right to speak their minds, however, and I can respect that. Unfortunately, these are the same people who won't see that both the Constitution and the Bible support equal rights - with no exceptions. Yet fear has a way of overpowering the loving hearts and minds of many, altering the words within each document to reflect their own opinions. As a perfectly happy and peaceful heterosexual woman, I can see that those who vehemently fight against this issue simply fear that which they can't comprehend. I applaud you for your courage to speak up. Thank you.

Donny
November 20, 2008 11:27 PM

Gay marriage is a secular thing, you should not mention you are a Christian supportive of such an abomination.

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