Well put

My mother’s forefather was a Jamestown colonialist, My father’s fought with Gen George Washington in New Jersey and was the first Magistrate of Pittsburgh Penn. Don’t tell me I’m not a “real American” because I come from a large liberal city in a liberal state and vote for liberals when I think they are right for our country!
My ancestors worked the Underground Railroad, Served on the Supreme Court, served as judges, newspaper editors and wildlife photographer. My grandfather was an artist and a minister. My father was a scientist who worked for the oil industry. I am American and so is Barack Obama whose grandmother worked in the war plant.
Sarah Palin, you wouldn’t know an true American, you married a seperationalist and offensive to the American way.

When someone feels the need to qualify someone or something by sticking the word “real” in front of it, the odds are they are trying to pull a fast one on you. “This is a real bargin.” This is a real antique.” “This is a real Rolex.” “This is a real diamond.”
Palin, and her “real Americans,” are real in the same sense as reality TV is reflective of human beings going about living their daily lives.
Enough of the Bridge to Nowhere; how would you like to buy the real Golden Gate Bridge? Just call me at my unlisted number.

With all do respect to Governor Palin, which is very little if any , I am a “Real American.” Just because a person happens to live in a large liberal city, vote a different way, or have a different point of view, that does not make that person any less of an American. What does make you an American? Paying taxes? Well I pay my taxes. That is more than you can say for your “Joe the Plumber” which Senator McCain and you held up as an example of the hardworking Americans that you and your party represent. So does that mean your party represents tax evading citizens that don’t want the taxes that they DON’T pay raised. I think Governor Palin and Senator McCain would do well to just do one thing, and that is look at the name of this country we live in. The UNITED States of America. It is as simple as that. We are all in this together and the idea put forth in the Constitution is “… to form a more perfect union,” not tear it apart.
With every slight, slur, or innuendo thrown by the McCain/Palin campaign to promote divisiveness, or instill fear and hate is one step further from the ideals OUR founding fathers, and every other American soldier that has fought and died for. To continue to do so is a disgrace to their memory and sacrifice.

Everyone seems to read more into what she said. I was raised in a big city but now live in a small farm community! Thank God for that. I understand what she is saying. You see more patriotism in your smaller communities due to the fact life is not so busy and people actually take time to show how patriotic they really are! Big cities don’t take the time. It all rush rush!

It doesn’t take a heck of a lot of “reading into” to gather that Palin sees small-town/rural America (in which I also live, and which I love very much) as “real America” and urban America as something less than that; if not “fake America”, at least “not-quite-as-real America”. What else are we to gather? I can only imagine that there are plenty of urban conservatives and Republicans who hear that and say, “Hey–wait a minute!” Judging by the number of conservatives that are endorsing Obama, both McCain and Palin are doing a pretty good job of alienating their own people.
The issue that was mentioned in an earlier comment is one that I also need to mention, and that’s Todd Palin’s association with the AIP. Why does Gov. Palin get a pass on that? Obama’s wife has been hammered on, and still is getting it, for one comment she made months ago. Why aren’t people talking about how Palin’s husband apparently hates America? With Todd, we’re not talking about one comment; we’re talking about a long-term very public association with an organization that wants its state to secede from the Union. Maybe if Palin’s handlers would allow her to hold an honest-to-goodness press conference, questions like that could be asked. Not answered, perhaps, but at least put into play.

So I guess since i live in a small town I am not American. I would not be proud to call myself an American because of the lies of the republican party.

Palin is NOT in ANY psoition to judge ME as an American or Anti-American. She is typical of the NEO-CON, Right-Wing, NAZI, Hateful, Hypocritical, FRIGHTENING republicans! Sarah “Plain” IS THE TERROSIST! PALIN is the ANTI-AMERICAN! PALIN is RACIST! PALIN is a BIGGOT! Hey, Sarah, sweetie, THESE things you are; are NOT American! Leave the “Lower 48″, go home, and shoot yourself in the head, WITCH. Take your broomstick with you, white trash!

“You see more patriotism in your smaller communities due to the fact life is not so busy and people actually take time to show how patriotic they really are!”
Define patriotism, Ray. I’m just curious as to what you mean by the word.

It’s really very simple… merely listen to the words of Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, and on, and on, and on…
These people are American citizens who hate their country in its current form. Yes, they claim that it is the love for their country that fuels their outrage, but this is plainly a lie.
THESE are the people who Palin appears to be referring to in her remarks. Defensiveness in response to these remarks belies a feeling of sympathy for the America haters.
On the flip side of so many of your coins… blind hatred for Sarah Palin does not in itself prove any brand of open-minded patriotism. It only illustrates that ignorant intolerance is not limited to matters of race and religion.

Now I have seen everything. Intelligent democrats attempting to use allegedly good logic to ridiculously interpret and inanely peg conservative Republicans with unbelievably silly rationale. If America gets our “change” (to what?) [God only knows, since none of the liberals can seem to explain it] from that messianic, forked-tongue, ultra-liberal socialist as our next President … then American deserves Obama.

I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you

It’s almost as if Sarah Palin and other Republicans don’t realize that when they speak to small town, Christian, real, Pro-America, that the rest of us might actually be watching. I’m glad to know there are still “pockets” of what Governor Palin calls the real America. I just wonder if I live in one of them.

Palin’s jumped the patriotic shark.
(I wonder just how badly they will be beaten in November, that they are willing to sink to such depths.)
All animals are created equal, but some are more “real” than others.

IMO, being “pro-America” requires using one’s conscience to evaluate what the USA does as well as what it says, and if it’s found to be inhumane, lacking in compassiona, or narrow-minded, to be willing to criticise publicly the USA when one knows it can and should do much better.

Honestly, you are going out of your way to be offended by these comments (referring to Gov. Palin’s words). If I choose to compliment one person, another shouldn’t find it offensive that I didn’t include them in the compliment. It is this slicing of words and finding ways to be offended (actually wanting to be offended) that is the real problem in this piece.
This point of view is inconsistent with the message of this site…
If you look to be offended…you will be.
Much love.

Honestly,
If you look to be offended…you will be. You are going out of your way to be offended by her compliment to another group. Just because a person offers a compliment to one person, it is not an opportunity to for anotehr person, who is obviously somewhat bitter, to take that as an insult. Then to carry those words to other people and indicate that we are all being slighted or insulted or offended.
Please don’t use this site to incite faux outrage…if you’d like to be truly be offfended, there are better opportunity.
Much love.

Real Americans do NOT blow up their own buildings and kill their own people for any reason(Ayers)…it is the same as killing an abortion docter because you are anti abortion……IT IS WRONG! And hanging with those same people for political gain (even 20 years ) later IS wrong!

Isn’t it ironic that the decider of who is American, Governor Palin, is married to a man who has been a member of a party that wants Alaska out of America?

The Republican party is weak and in decline, it has become conservative in the sense of being anti-progressive and against re-evaluating core-beliefs. McCain’s reiteration of the Change-mantra is mere lipservice and I applaud you for having the courage to speak up from within the Christian community. Pro-life or not goes beyond the issue of unborn life and needs to include the views of those in power towards born life, too… shame, too many conservative Christians are still unwilling to re-evaluate their political bias.
God bless you, Burns & Co @ Beliefnet. Good job! Keep it up…

The bottom line is we need to pray to God to lead us in determining what is real and what is smoke being blown in our direction. It is very difficult to believe all the hype and basically the lies being fed to us. I am flooded with anti-Obama e-mails that are just absolutely hateful – I cannot believe any pro-McCain/Palin supporter would resort to these methods. I am not stating which candidate to vote for, I just have personally been turned off by the comments made by above-mentioned Republicans. Please rely on your faith to lead you in the right direction and VOTE your true feelings while ignoring the campaign lies circulating. Thank you

Being American means many things, but also taking responsibility for your actions.
Feelings – are they based on fact, or simply what you feel at that very moment? Can feelings be manipulated? Yes, feelings can be manipulated.
True, even 30+ years after the event, William Ayers is still a bad man. He got off on a technicality, not because what he did was okay. Keep in mind, though, that as recent as 2001, it was William Ayers who announced he wished he’d “done more,” relating to the the rest of us he is truly unrepentent, even after all these years.
During this important time, it is crucial that people vote based on research and fact (be skeptical of ads and media). Recent Obama ads passively attack McCain by saying that McCain wants to cut Medicare, based on third party information that came from another 3rd party. Could that be because its untrue? The claim is untrue, McCain is not cutting Medicare. He plans to fund tax cuts through reducing the size of government (not Medicare).
That’s why it’s important we, as Americans, check the facts (not the opinions) – check the voting records – check the historical ACTIONS of each candidate, check out their voting records. Be responsible as a voter.
But why? The next President of the United States will be filling federal jobs – including courts, FBI, and other of our nation’s fundamental pieces. These people will sit in that role until they die or step down. That means they will be in the role long after the President elected in 2008 is out of office.
The United States offers more opportunity than any other country in the world provides. A candidate that says to his followers ” argue with them (non-Obama supporters), get in their face!” loses face in my eyes, but so does a candidate that destroys a man like Joe the Plumber for simply asking a question. Would you call that “Freedom of speech” if you were destroyed for asking a question?
I pray we each vote our conscience with grounded facts, not feelings. Keep this the greatest nation in the world, one of opportunity and the pursuit of happiness.

What “destroys a man like Joe the Plumber”?
Answer: it is Sam, the non-licensed plumber, who lied about his economic situation, who failed to pay his taxes, and who got trotted out before the nation on the third Presidential debate by John McCain. After being mentioned about 20 times by McCain, the media decided to ground their story in facts. The facts in this case left egg all over the face of Sam the non-licensed plumber–that McCain mistakenly called “Joe the Plumber,” while retailing Sam’s lie about the impact of Obama’s proposed tax cuts on him.

Rdog, you said:
“It’s really very simple… merely listen to the words of Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, and on, and on, and on…
These people are American citizens who hate their country in its current form. Yes, they claim that it is the love for their country that fuels their outrage, but this is plainly a lie.”
I happen to think all of these men are fools – Jeremiah Wright, for all the good that he’s done, engages in demagoguery, William Ayers is more or less a lunatic, at least when it comes to politics, if not to education, I can’t even watch Michael Moore’s movies because he bugs me so much, and I think Sean Penn is an occasionally good, though overrated actor who has a right to his political opinions even though I don’t agree with most of them.
But, if I thought all these men were great, I would be just as much of an American as you. As a moderate, I am aware that there are Americans who think that they will win points for being even more down on America than anti-American foreigners. I might think these folks are fools, but that doesn’t mean they are truly anti-American. Just (giving them the benefit of the doubt) perhaps naive and foolish.
One of the things that bothers me the most about the tone of most of Sarah Palin’s rallies is that acting the part of the demagogue, but with (apparently) so little knowledge of history or of what she is doing that she doesn’t even see the dangers of what she is doing. I hope it is out of ignorance and naivete, because if it is not, she is a much more conniving and dangerous person than I think. We need leadership at this time, not demagoguery.

In all defferance to Ray, its not a matter of understanding or misunderstanding, its a matter of speaking in a language that doesn’t allow for misinterpretation. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Given that Gov. Palin probably meant something similar to what you understand her to have said. Keep in mind that this is a person who is running for election to the 2nd highest post in the land, and, who could very well lead this country at some point if she were elected. Out of the 20 people who had responded prior to this response, you were the only one who “understands”. Out of the 20 countries (give or take a few) who would be attending the next nuclear disarmament summit, which one would you pick to have “understand” what our President was saying?
There are two distinct criteria (among many) that I would require in a qualified candidate for any public office; the ability to understand what needs to be said, and, the ability to clearly communicate that information. I don’t think Gov. Palin has either of those criteria.

R-dog,
You said, “These people are American citizens who hate their country in its current form.”
First, I disagree with your contention that “these people” do “hate” their country, but the telling words in your post are: “in its current form”.
America USED to be proud to proclaim that all citizens were to be treated equally before the law. That hasn’t been the case in so long now. In fact, the McPalins would like to change the Constitution so that some citizens never will be treated equally.
If I lived in America, I would “hate” that, too.

Can anyone give me a good definition of a “real American.”
I have been watching a lot of news lately, liberal and conservative, and both seem to scrambling to shout from the rooftops that they are real Americans. Why? Isn’t this divisive?
Isn’t our country a little too big and a little too diverse to have a laundry list of adjectives to pick from to call yourself American. If I fit . . . um . . . 3 of the following list of adjectives then then I am a real American.
1. Pride
2. Right not to be proud
3. Knows and believes in the first Amendment
4. Has never read the Constitution but still a Citizen.
5. Free
6. Slave to the Government’s whimsical addiction to Wall Street
7. Christian
8. Right not be Christian and not be prosecuted
“Um, well, I live in Berkeley, CA so I will pick 2, 6 & 8.” Stupid. Even Burns Strider has it wrong. He’s scrambling to convince us his kids are Americans even though they live in the un-American section of Virginia. Or that he grew up on Mississippi and has some liberal views, but that he’s still an American. This is divisive speak.
The only thing that makes me American is that I am a citizen, I acknowledge that I may have zero in common with my neighbor and I relish that fact. Being called un American means nothing to me. Let’s think collectively and positively, and not scramble to defend our Americanness. Vote for whoever, but vote with vigor.

Is this American? Does it follow the American principles set out by our founding fathers?
Let’s take a look at the practice Sen. Obama wanted to continue. The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedures:
A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s leg with forceps. (Remember this is a live baby)
B. The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
C. The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head.
D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole.
E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.
God help him.
There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law.
Think about this: You can’t give a child an aspirin without parental notification but that same child can have an abortion without parental notification. This is insane. It’s interesting how defensive candidates are when this subject is brought to bear. Heaven help us all.

It’s not that these conservatives are pro-America so much as they are pro-their-own-version-of-America. These conservatives are questioning the Americanism of people like Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, etc., but I haven’t heard them questioning the same in people like G Gordon Liddy, Oliver North, Jesse Helms, a whole host of dixiecrats/Republicans who are convicted felons and others who are more than bigots.
They even question the honorable duty of Democrats who have served in war while elevating the patriotism of those whose family $$ and connections got them into the select, National Guard slots when they ran out of deferments. The National Guard in the 60′s was completely different than in modern times.
Conservative who will denegrate anything associated with Hollywood as long as that person or cause isn’t Arnold Schwatrznegger, Mel Gibson, Bo Derek, Charlton Heston, Chuck Norris, Clint Eastwood, Kelsey Grammer, Lauren Bush, Tom Selleck. Dennis Miller they love, Ellen Degeneres not so much.
Well this Democrat has voted in every election since I tutrned 18 even when I was on an island in the middle of the Indian Ocean. No legacy admission into college for me and I worked my way through. I chose to enlist in the military and was honorably discharge at the end of my service. My favorite American city is San Francisco and I’ve been to Europe several time and even lived there for a couple of years.
I love my country warts and all. Unlike the neo-cons, I don’t define the level of patriotism of other by some sound bite that cam from a stupoid campaign ad.

Or is it that conservatives believe the abortion they have in secret doesn’t count.
90% of fetus that test for Down Syndrome are aborted. Those aren’t just liberal women who are doing it. If you go into a church of any real size and don’t see any of these children there, you know somebody had something taken care of.
Not every woman, like Sarah Palin a conservative and a close relative of mine, a very liberal Democrat, chose to carry to term a baby when the alpha-fetoprotein (AFP), unconjugated estriol (uE3), and human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) test come back with bad news. I just know from experience that women of means, even neo-conservatives, will continue to have safe, private abortions. Banning the procedure in the US won’t change that.

If you do not vote for the McCain/Palin ticket for any other reason, please let it be that you have watched the “Sara Palin Witch Dr. Video” (just google it. This woman should not be manager of a 7-11, let alone Vice President of the United States. She is totally WACK!

Watching this election from afar has certainly brought one thing to my attention – you people are really into labels and categorizing people!
Do you need to identify with a group(Conservative, Crunchy Conservative, Evangelical Conservative, Moderate Conservative..!)for the purpose of groupthink – so that you know how to behave, worship, think, and who to vote for?
And do you label others so that it makes it easier to judge them based on what said label must determine about their lifestyle, views, spirituality, etc.?
Industrialized tribalism. Odd evolution for a country that claims to be rooted in extreme individuality.

I love what you wrote Naida-awesome. It is so much the need to belong and to persuade others to believe as each one of us, or the need to be right or the need to convince others that we know the facts that leads people into the mess that comes about anyway! and judgements and criticism and complaining and anger…fuel for a very dangerous flight. It is the people who put every single one of the government members where they are today, whether you voted or didn’t vote. Admit that America. My heart aches with how quickly people are swooned with intellectual speech and worries about money, while there are still wars being fought and bloodshed. Then there’s socialism. And this war, this war is very representative for Britain and America, for the “English speaking people” for those who still believe in Jesus Christ. Who will stand up and walk forward when the question is asked, “Do you believe in Jesus Christ?” Are we going to have private commitments to our Savior? We are being blindsided, right in front of our eyes. And Hollywood has to do with it! When people are “researching” are we unbiasedly researching or are we looking up crap that feeds our personal angers and justifies what we think we want? Have you ever thought you wanted something so much, thinking it was everything you wanted and once it came to be, it was NOT what you wanted at all…what an Oh s*** moment, huh? We don’t have room for an O.S. moment like this. This has to do with our position in the world. It’s about freedoms that have made the U.S. the place people want to live. I won’t let that go for any uncertainty, it’s only 4 years, but it is the National Security and it is the remaining of United States, not divided races, where I-part of the mud race-don’t even know where I fit in. Such foolishness and the media is the circulatory system of the toxins. I hope there will be many a bended knee for this decision, rather than an open wallet. In the end, it’s not the green that is going to mean anything (it has no value now), it’s who you speak for and Who will speak for you.
God bless us all, as Christ said on the cross, “Father forgive them, they know not what they do.”
~and I have my resources, so challenge me, God is Grand.
love and forgive.
Thy Will Be Done

“Not every woman, like Sarah Palin a conservative and a close relative of mine, a very liberal Democrat, chose to carry to term a baby when the alpha-fetoprotein (AFP), unconjugated estriol (uE3), and human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) test come back with bad news.” -Liz
Just a brief correction…. Gov. Sarah Palin is a Republican, NOT a Democrat. Did I read it correctly that you are related to her??
Blessings,
Misty

Scruffy,
Three Cheers For YOU!!! I’m Proud to stand beside YOU and ALL of the other Wonderful Americans that this COUNTRY of OURS holds so well in it’s arms.
As for a comment made earlier, Gov. Palin is a Republican NOT a Democrat.
Blessings To ALL,
Misty

I don’t understand how the people of USA,could consider Obama for President,for me this man remaind me Castro ,both are experts liers,experts in lower the standars of live for everybody,also experts to have the goverment runing the lives of the people with their falses promises,meantime they get security with their close friends;criminals and terrorists.The demagogy of these two persons is excellent.

Could it be that those who believe in distribution of wealth that makes you anti-American. What I was taught in school was that was socialism. Which goes against the entire American concept that we have been spreading around the world for centuries!

MR. STRIDER, ITS OBVIOUS YOU ARE FOR OBAMA. HOW BLIND YOU ARE THAT YOU WOULD VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO “CHANGE” THE VERY AMERICA YOU SO LOVE. YOU DONT CARE FOR SARAH BECAUSE SHE IS VERY MUCH LIKE THE COMMON PERSON. CULTURE WAR IS BEING HELD TIGHT BY THE ELITIST LIKE YOU IN THIS WORLD. REMEMBER WE CLING TO OUR GUNS AND RELIGION. AND YOU CANT STAND THAT. ANYHOW, GOD DOESNT NEED DEFENDING-THE RIGHT PERSON WILL BE ELECTED. EVEN IF ITS BARRY, GOD USED ANOTHER PERSON TO BETRAY HIM BEFORE REMEMBER. IT WAS TO FULFILL GODS PLAN. YOU GO GIRL. YOU DONT CARE FOR HER BECAUSE SHE DOESNT TOTE A DRINK AND SLEEP WITH SHADY PEOPLE. SHE DOESNT GO YOUR WAY SO YOU SAY SHE IS WRONG. WHAT ABOUT BARRY’S RUSSIAN-MEXICO-NICARAGUA METHODS OF THINKING. I WAS BORN HERE AND FEAR OUR AMERICA, IF HUSSEIN WINS, WILL BE A MESS. YOUR OBVIOUS CHOICE WILL MAKE IT ANOTHER THIRD WORLD. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.

MR.STRIDER,
AS PER YOUR SUGGESTION.I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOUR MOVIN TO ANOTHER COUNTRY..I’LL ALSO HELP YOU PACK.

After hearing Palin & Bachman’s comments, and also the way Palin & McCain stir up the unstable in their base into yelling out “Terrorist” and “Kill him!” about Obama; Maria, Bruce, & especially Frances’ comments scare me with the hatred and misinformation they spew. I find it especially amusing all this negative talk about “socialism”. “Socialism” is behind Medicare, and also paying the salaries and the healthcare programs for our elected officials, Police, and Firefighters. Bottom line, I want to make sure that the next President/VP are smarter than me, not someone who got into the Naval Academy due to his connections and then graduated 5th from the bottom of his class! It took Palin 6 years and 5 colleges to finally get just an undergraduate degree… and she still doesn’t know what the VP’s job is! I think it is extremely funny that Frances is still calling Palin a “common person”, when she is wearing $150K of designer duds and her makeup artist made $22K, more than anyone else on the McCain team in the same short time period. Frances’ comments are so bizarre about Palin not being the one “to tote a drink or sleep with shady people”. Where did that come from? Who ever said she does that? or who does Frances think does that?? Michelle? Jill? Then there is Frances’ off the wall comment about “Barry’s RUSSIAN-MEXICO-NICARAGUA METHODS OF THINKING”. I think perhaps it took Frances even longer than Palin to get a degree, if she even has one. I find the people who still buy into the Bush/McCain/Palin thinking and way of doing things have the lack of intelligence of George W. Bush and the misguided, racist views of Cheney, Palin, & Bachman. I pray that the calm and steady temperment and superior intelligence of Barack Obama is given a chance to turn our country around from the downward spiral the Bush era has put us in and that all of the racists in this country like Frances will just back off and shut up and let him have a fair chance. Frances thinks if Obama gets elected the country will be a mess…hey Frances! what condition do you think the country is in now??? and Maria, you should pray Obama gets in, he is not racist. The Republicans you think share your views and are on your side, aren’t! Ask Frances…she’d want you on the first boat back to where you came from, right Frances?! In this day and age, there is no room for racism and false rumors that stir the fears of the uninformed and uneducated in this country. Hey Frances, once and for all, Barack “Hussein” Obama is not a Muslim, but a Christian! Even if he was a Muslim, that shouldn’t make a difference because this country was built on religious freedom and not all Muslims are terrorists and/or subscribe to Osama bin Laden’s hateful philosophy and actions. Last, wouldn’t it be wonderful if racism in our country could be reduced and ended someday? I truly believe that Barack Obama is “the one” to take us down that road. (Frances, I am a Christian that believes in Christ…so don’t make any of your stupid assumptions about my above comments).

I believe America was not founded with PREJUDISM and IGNORANCE so I think we as “Americans” should go back centuries ago and “THINK” or “STUDY” how we became “ONE GREAT AMERICA” and educate yourselves or look in the mirror and ask yourselves if you’re doing your country any service by
getting mad at each other because you’re “REPUBLICAN/DEMOCRAT/INDEPENDENT.Did anyone of you thought that our “ECONOMY” will be in such position? We elected “GW BUSH” for 2nd term.What makes you think the “Next President” will be better? or it could be worse…whose to say? Just pray to GOD that we get out of this mess, People.

I have been watching some of the rallies that Palin has been speaking at and it almost feels as though she forgot her white hood at home. Christian white folk are not the only people who make up this great country – there are many other races and religions too. They are no better or worse. Christianity becomes very ugly when it is distorted (just like any other religion), to suit your political agenda. God created the world and all the people in it, let us not be so short sighted to think that we are better than anyone else, we were all created equal. So Mrs. Palin you better go back to church and learn to love your fellow man, no matter the color of their skin or their religous affiliation, we are all Americans wether you like it or not.

Palin needs to pack her gun back into her diaper bag and head on back down to Alaska and help her teenage daughter pick out a layette and plan her wedding.
Hell, you might even make back in time for Moose hunting season.
Bye, bye now!

Hey Frances,
GW has put us on the path to third world status, that would be the Republicans, hopefully we can get out of this mess Georgy boy and his Old Boys Club got us into. I find it hillarious how no matter what the problem is, a republican will always find a way to pin it on a democrat.
Frances I wish we could pack you, and all the ignorant folk that you keep company with, and send you off somewhere. We would all be better off!

This Letter Was Written By A African American Christian. Christian People You Need to Wake UP!! There is racism on both sides. Just not on the white side.
A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but it’s worth repeating…
First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him. Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can’t dictate the terms He does because He is the leader.
I can’t vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because that’s who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither
should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 20 years from now I won’t be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.
In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell
research, human cloning to name a few, wrong economic concerns will soon not matter.
We need to follow Martin Luther King’s words, don’t judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their
character. I don’t know Obama so all I can go off is his voting record. His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007. NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008) To beat Ted Kennedy and Hilary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what
would happen to America if he had four years to work with.
There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100 % rating.
There is a reason the homosexual community supports him.
There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him.
There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court.
There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill.
There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage.
There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion.
There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.
Let’s take a look at the practice he wanted to continue:
The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedures:
A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s leg with forceps.(Remember this is a live baby)
B. The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
C. The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head.
D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole.
E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.
God help him.
There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law.
Think about this: You can’t give a kid an aspirin without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion
without parental notification. This is insane.
There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years. Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under
Jeremiah Wright teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright’s sermons. I wonder why now?
Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 – 20 ‘Go and make disciples of all nations.’ This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?
Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a
1. Commitment to the White Community
2. Commitment to the White Family
3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community.
5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Would you support a President who went to a church like that? Just change the word from white to black and you have
the tenets of Obama’s former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside.
This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discover he went to a racist church. The
church can’t be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.
A church can’t have a value system based on race. The churches value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if it’s a white church or a black church it’s still wrong. Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote.
Obama’s former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: ‘Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him.
Cone is the man Obama’s mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this? So what does all this mean for the nation?
In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead a nation it meant one thing – judgment. Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel 1:9 ‘Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them
know what the king who will reign over them will do.’ Then God says 1 Samuel 1:18 ‘ When that day comes, you will cry out
for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer yoin that day.’ 19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. ‘No!’ they said. ‘We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.’ 21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22
The LORD answered, ‘Listen to them and give them a king.’
Here is what we know for sure. God is not schizophrenic. He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one
to vote for McCain. As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people are not hearing from God. Maybe I am the one not hearing but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it.
For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look God in the face and say; Father based on your word, I am voting for Obama even though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abortion. He might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court justices, and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are against you. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights, even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look the other way because of the economy.
I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama’s positions. Finally I have two questions for all my liberal friends. Since we know someone’s value system has to be placed on the nation,
1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation.
2. Who should determine that this is the right value system for the nation

I think that’s like saying a ‘real’ woman or a “real” job. We are what we are, worts and all. Look, I’m not for Palin, I voted Democratic. However, for the first woman to be nominated by a major political party, I think we have to cut her some slack. O.K., I didn’t especially like her, but I recognize the door she’s now opened.

Betty,
A Big Hearty AMEN Sister!!!
Well Said

Betty,
Why do you and so many other Christians have such a large beef with homosexuals? Are they not human beings, just like everyone else? Does God not love them like he loves everyone else? Should a president not listen to homosexuals because they lead “sinful” lifestyles? And the author of that letter, Huntley Brown, incorrectly assumes that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of homosexual behavior. Sodom and Gomorrah is mentioned about 44 times in the Bible, and in 43 of those mentions, sexual activity is not discussed at all. It is more likely that it was destroyed because it was hostile towards guests and outsiders, and did not take care of the poor and needy. As Ezekiel 16:48-49 states “As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters. Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.” There is no mention of homosexuality there-yet there is mention of greed and hardheartedness toward the poor and needy. I don’t see why Betty and Huntley Brown have such contempt towards the gay community-even if they DO embrace sinful sexual practices, they are still human beings deserving of love and respect. A president should pay attention to the needs and concerns of the gay community, just as he/she should pay attention to the needs and concerns of the African-American community, Hispanic-American community, Asian-American community, Irish-American commnity, Italian-American community, Russian-American community, Catholic community, Protestant community, Mormom community, Jewish community, Muslim community, Hindu community, Buddhist community. Sure, each of these groups have sinners among their ranks, but are they not as valuable in the sight of God as everyone else?

And if you really believe homosexuality to be a sin, you should make it clear that your problem is not with HOMOSEXUALS as PEOPLE, but HOMOSEXUALITY as a PRACTICE. You know, love the sinner, hate the sin.