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Liberty U Revokes College Dem Charter

posted by Eric Sapp | 12:12pm Friday May 22, 2009

There is a great post over on faithfuldemocrats about the unfortunately decision by Liberty University to revoke the charter for it’s college Democrats b/c the Democratic platform was unChristian.  Check it out, and then join the facebook petition to reinstate the College Dems.

 

http://faithfuldemocrats.com/index.php?option=com_myblog&show=Liberty-Universitys-Anti-Democratic-Assault-on-Free-Speech.html&Itemid=148



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posted May 22, 2009 at 4:09 pm


Many Christians understand that the doctrines of the “so called” Christian Right arise out of a misunderstanding of Christian theology. Christianity differs from Jewish traditions by emphasizing the personal and internal nature of salvation. Christ taught that merely following external Law would never provide salvation. Just following Laws of Behavior does not make us free from sin. The “so called” Christian Right is trying to ignore this revolutionary doctrine by emphasizing the changing of laws to make us a more Christian nation. This is simply impossible. Salvation is personal and internal. According to the Bible, salvation is only achieved with the help of Jesus Christ. A law book provides no help in achieving salvation. Laws belong in the realm of Caesar instead of God.
The Christian doctrine of “Free Will” is ignored by the political activities of the Republican “so called” Christian Right. We are given the choice to select sin or salvation by God. Legislation is simply irrelevant to salvation. Salvation is the purpose of Christianity, not legislative or political victories by Republicanism.
Christianity also teaches us to care for the poor and helpless. This is not reflected in the lobbying or electoral activity of the “so called” Christian Right. The Republican agenda is a political statement that essentially glorifies Greed. Since when is the Christian religion an advocate of Greed?



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hootie1fan

posted May 22, 2009 at 4:15 pm


Matthew 22:17-21
Matthew 6:5-6



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hootie1fan

posted May 22, 2009 at 4:35 pm


As a private school, Liberty University has every right to revoke the College Democrats charter. Of the course they also have the right to produce 4th rate lawyers which along with this latest move only serves to enforce the realization of the rest of the world that outside of evangelical Protestant Christianity, LU is making itself irrelevant.



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Margaret Johnston

posted May 22, 2009 at 4:59 pm


This is more of a sad commentary on who they are over there at Liberty University than it is about the Democratic party. While many in our society are trying to rise above our separatist and ethnocentric values, toward a more inclusive worldview, this faction is still trying to hold humanity back from progress. They may succeed in restricting such growth among their own students but they cannot hold back a society that is determined to move forward wiht them or without them.



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Anna Roberts

posted May 22, 2009 at 5:16 pm


Good for Liberty.
Why would any Christian school lend its money and its name to purposes that are anti-life and anti-traditional marriage?



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Blue Collar Todd

posted May 22, 2009 at 6:46 pm


I think it was best said by Robert Gagnon who was concerned about the coming Progressive attack on biblical Christianity. Gagnon wonders how a Christian can vote for someone who holds them in utter contempt:
How can Christians, as well as other persons who share similar values, vote for a candidate who wants to persecute them for their views and to compel them, against their consciences and subject to civil penalties, to be indoctrinated and participate in the affirmation of immoral practices? In short, how can Christians vote for someone who will insure society’s regard for them as bigots?



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Lowell

posted May 22, 2009 at 9:17 pm


Anna- do you mean anti-life and anti-traditional marriage thinhgs like war and shotgun weddings?



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Lowell

posted May 22, 2009 at 9:20 pm


Todd, their own actions guarantee they will be regarded as bigots, because THEY ARE bigots.



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Rob the Rev

posted May 22, 2009 at 9:47 pm


Todd, This progressive Christian holds fundagelicals, medieval, theocratic dominionist, biblical literalists non-Christians in contempt because they ARE ignorant bigots.



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hydropsyche

posted May 23, 2009 at 8:54 am


Gagnon wonders how a Christian can vote for someone who holds them in utter contempt.
In the history of our country, there have been hardly any elected representatives who were not Christian. Joe Lieberman and Thomas Jefferson being the only ones most people could name. The idea that devout Catholics Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden or devout United Church of Christ member Barack Obama holds you in contempt merely because you are Christian makes no sense at all.
The only way this sentence makes sense is if you have redefined the word “Christian” to exclude most Christians.



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Your Name

posted May 23, 2009 at 8:01 pm


I have only one comment and it is a paraphrase of Shakespeare:
Cry havoc, and let loose the dogs of the IRS!
Revoke their tax exempt status and see how much they like that.



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Blue Collar Todd

posted May 25, 2009 at 12:53 am


@Lowell,
What actions make them bigots?
@Rob the Rev,
This progressive Christian holds fundagelicals, medieval, theocratic dominionist, biblical literalists non-Christians in contempt because they ARE ignorant bigots.
Not even sure what those terms mean. What exactly makes them ignorant bigots, and by extension I assume you mean me as well?



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Brian Griffith

posted May 25, 2009 at 6:05 am


It’s always fascinating to me to see what different standards people use as their litmus test of Christianity.
Is it devotion to non-violence?
Is it respecting the Jewish law like Jesus did?
Is it defending male superiority like Jesus didn’t?
Is it having moral righteousness rather than forgiveness?
Is it having loyalty to one’s government?
Is it opposition to divorce?
Is it affirming that Jesus was “begotten, not made”?
Is it having certainty we know God’s mind?



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Richard Clark

posted May 25, 2009 at 8:57 am


I would just like to ask the administration at Liberty University, when did Jesus become pro-war, pro-favoring the rich, and pro-Republican Party???



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RWG

posted May 30, 2009 at 12:51 pm


I hope that fellow Christians will begin to concern themselves more with the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ rather than the teachings of men, Minor Prophets, and modern day Pharisees. I for one, am much more concerned with THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT than the sermon from Thomas Road Baptist church. In this instance – if we must bring politics into the church – one should compare the policies of each political party in relation to Christ’s Sermon on the Mount.
Republican Party: Lies – Empowering the rich while taking advantage of and ignoring the poor – War without cause- Torture- Alliances with Evangelical leaders in order to obtain votes in exchange for power (we still have Abortion and Gay People after 8 years of Republican rule) – Intolerance. Doesn’t sound “Christ-like” to me!
These days, the Democratic Party seems to be more in line with the teachings of Jesus Christ, especially with regard to President Obama’s most recent speech on Abortion:
“let’s work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies, and making adoption more available, and providing care and support for women who do carry their child to term. Let’s honor the conscience of those who disagree with abortion, and draft a sensible conscience clause, and make sure that all of our health care policies are grounded in clear ethics and sound science, as well as respect for the equality of women.” Contraception? Care and Support for the least of us? Ethics? Obviously, Obama must be the “anti-christ”!
According to the “Church and University of Falwell”, we should simply condemn women who find themselves in such a predicament… Problem Solved! Praise God!
Regarding the other issue that seems to monopolize a great deal of time, energy, and thought in the spiritual capitol of the USA…Lynchburg (VA). Although it is not really discussed by Christ, the closest reference to the existence of Gay People is part of verse in the book of Mathew (a primary source mind you) regarding divorce: (Mathew 19:12) “For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriagec because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.” A translation and cultural study of “eunuchs” as a category reveals startling truths, inferring that Christ was speaking of the very gay people so many religious leaders continue to condemn. Through elaboration and embellishment rooted in the writings of men and Minor Prophets commenting on social-cultural traditions and church doctrine, the “Church and University of Falwell” has maligned and condemned millions of human beings (gay people) as “sinners in the first degree”. There have always been gay people and there will always be gay people in every society (just as in the day of Jesus Christ and before). How we as Christians treat gay people is the test – another failure of “Falwellism.”
As Christians, we are commanded to show Love and Compassion!
Again, the words of our Lord Jesus Christ: (Mathew 7:1) “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
Today, the “Church and University of Falwell” has created a whole new class of “sinner” they call Democrats. The very same family that has used the Christian Faith to amass power and millions through the creation of a family business –aka Thomas Road Baptist Church, bilked unwitting college students out of millions under the guise of a “4th tier” education – aka Liberty University, isolated out of context biblical passages in an effort to create their own “truth,” solidly aligned themselves with a political party for personal financial and political gain, has now – once again – narrowed their list of who is worthy and who is not.
Lest we forget – the actual words of our Lord Jesus Christ: (Mathew 7:15) “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits.”
Let’s make a list of fruit: Manipulation – Quest for Personal Power and Money – Intolerance – Condemnation – Self Righteousness…
Sounds like another group of Religious Leaders Christ himself famously chastised – PHARASEES!



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Dr. Charles Hughes

posted June 2, 2009 at 10:42 am


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