I was never enthusiastic about Gov. Corzine. Living in New Jersey I should have been fired up and ready to go, but like many of my fellow Jersians I went to polls and voted, but didn’t volunteer, go to any rallies, or put up a Corzine sign in my window. I guess I am a typical (although I voted which makes me less so) Obama supporter who couldn’t get excited about an unexciting candidate. Still, it makes me sorry to see him go. I worry that under Christie the tendency of New Jersey to accept itself as a segregated state between the suburbs and cities based on income (with its racial corollary) will only become more pronounced. And Gov. Elect Christie seems likely to try to roll back some of the laws protecting reproductive freedom and gay rights. Still, Corzine never really made his case why New Jersey should re-elect him and now we will see how the Republicans govern.
More heart-breaking was the loss of the
right to marry in Maine. I wonder if those who voted to repeal gay marriage realize the emotional violence they just perpetrated. Think it through – a couple went through a sacred ceremony, pledging to live their lives together in marriage, only to have the validity of their love be questioned and revoked by strangers compelled by a superiority complex based on their sexual orientation. I have officiated at many marriages – gay and straight and I can assure you there is NO DIFFERENCE in the quality of the love that is expressed. If anything, the gay couples are more serious about it as they have to overcome obstacles of hostile family members and a hostile government. Ah, well. Soon this will all seem silly as time is on equality’s side. ’The arc of history is long – but bends towards justice’ as MLK, Jr. said. His wife, Corretta was a gay rights friend and we miss her and her husband on this day.
Still, it is surprising to hear the media paint Nov 3 as a pure rebuke to the Democrats. I was totally dumbfounded when I learned that in the New York congressional race, the
Democrat Bill Owens beat Conservative Doug Hoffman. A Democrat hasn’t won that seat in a long time and it demonstrated that the right wing of the Republican party is going to be a major liability for years to come. The back story is that the Republican nominee was deemed too moderate by the likes of Sara Palin, and Glenn Beck and so the Conservatives ran their own candidate – Doug Hoffman. The Republican nominee, Dede Scozzafava,
then dropped out and threw her support behind Bill Owens – the Democrat! Basically we have a new coalition of moderate to liberal Americans who are joining forces against the right. There is a lesson to be learned here but I am not sure that the super right wing will learn it – which bodes well for 2010 and 2012. Also, on the gay issue there are a couple of good news items. Chapel Hill elected its first
openly gay mayor Mark Kleinschmidt; and an openly
Lesbian, Annise Parker, made it to the top two for a run off for mayor in Houston, Texas. That’s right – Texas. Plus, Washington State voted to approve
all benefits of marriage (without the name marriage) to same sex couples.
We will see what happens will elections and with government over the next year but as gay rights activist Harvey Milk said: “
You’ve got to give them hope.“
posted November 4, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Sound like you could accuse someone of a “hate crime” based on this reasoning, especially after President Obama just signed such a bill into law? One’s vote is now an act of hatred? Seems to be a dangerous implication here. Yes, when the voters are given the chance to express themselves on this, they have rejected gay marriage 31-0, that should tell you something.
posted November 4, 2009 at 3:45 pm
“Yes, when the voters are given the chance to express themselves on this, they have rejected gay marriage 31-0, that should tell you something.”
That most Americans are bigots hiding behind religion to excuse it?
posted November 4, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Last night was change I can believe in! roll on 2010 and much crying on this blog. I think Paul needs a box of kleenex with all the liberal bleeding and crying above!
posted November 4, 2009 at 6:02 pm
The Maine vote is a hiccup, a speed bump on the way to Civil Rights recognition for all, that day will come no matter how much ignorance and hate lay themselves on the tracks.
Todd, did you see the voting stats coming out of the colleges in Maine as I have? 81% For No on 1, this is your future. I’m so very proud of my age group.
posted November 4, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Yes, when the voters are given the chance to express themselves on this, they have rejected gay marriage 31-0, that should tell you something.
It does. It tells me that more supposed Christians need to hear the prophetic voices around them telling them that their hatred towards their LGBT brothers and sisters is not only not of Christ, but is an insult to Him and His name. God calls you to repent of your hatred, change your opinions, and work for equality. Will you answer the call, or persist in your sin?
posted November 5, 2009 at 10:42 am
For those who would like an informed analysis on the election read this rather than the uninformed garbage above
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100015794/what-the-election-results-mean-for-barack-obama-and-sarah-palin/
posted November 5, 2009 at 11:54 am
So as we can see from either secular politics or a religionist view, it’s honest to connect “gay activist” and “marxist” to the word “progressive.”
And it’s also honesty to claim that the label of “Christian” is not appropiate seeing the aims and goals of the 21st century “progressive” gathering of its membership.
I’m glad this article lends support to properly defining of what a progressive actually is. More licentious and permissive a voice then apostolic.
If you are indeed trying to insert a Christian perspective as supporting homosexual behavior, you are indeed in the wrong camp for that. There is no support for homosexual behavior anywhere promoted in the New Testament.
Isn’t it time for progressives to be honest about what they’re doing and why? Certainly you have no foundation in Christian culture or Christian history for your political and social goals. Be Democrats. Don’t claim to be doing anything as Christians in promoting and encouraging gay culture.
It would be far more honest to align yourselves and your activism with that of Nero.
He was after all, a person that did have a history of promoting same-gender sex acts and same-gender marriage. One of which was of course his own.
C’mon now, either progressive activism is connected with Roman paganism and its sexual vices (the evidence for that is there), or Greece’s pederast’s and that well-told tale (even Sappho of the Lesbian monkier was an adult desiring her questioning youthful students).
History does not put progressive values with those of the Apostles and the Gospel of Jesus that they re-preached again and again. Even unto the end of the age.
You need to be more forthright with your your use and application of neologism.
posted November 5, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I think “Mere Christian” hit the response to the pro-gay revisionist view of the Bible. No where in the Bible is homosexuality ever condoned, just the opposite. The prophets in the Old Testament condemn sexual sin repeatedly, and this includes homosexuality.
posted November 5, 2009 at 8:05 pm
“No where in the Bible is homosexuality ever condoned, just the opposite. The prophets in the Old Testament condemn sexual sin repeatedly, and this includes homosexuality.”
As much as I hate to admit it, he’s got a point. It’s like I always say: the only Bible verse you need to know is Leviticus 20:13. It shows how questionable the book is as a guide to moral behavior. If you go to a protest and you see a guy with a picket sign that says “Leviticus 20:13″, run. Odds are he brought more than that sign.
posted November 5, 2009 at 8:28 pm
The New Testament condemns supporting gay behavior far more than the Old Testament does.
Marriage is a man and a woman. From Jesus quoting God at the beginning of the “Godly” man and woman relationship, to the entire New Testament testimony.
Be a secularist/pagan and do as you wilt. But it is dishonest to label Christians doing as they should and NOT supporting a perversion of marriage as bigots or that they’re hateful.
If you want to start applying those labels to the followers of Christ, then you have to start your labeling with Jesus. He detailed a marriage as man and woman.
posted November 6, 2009 at 12:14 am
Do the voters who turned down gay marriage realize that they have perpetrated emotional violence? Why would you think that they would even care?
posted November 6, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Mere_Christian: “But it is dishonest to label Christians doing as they should and NOT supporting a perversion of marriage as bigots or that they’re hateful.”
When did I say the word “bigot”? As a matter of fact, I purposely avoid using that word to avoid this crap. Although I have been known to use a few words that are a bit too R-rated for this blog, I’m sure.
As for Jesus, I have other issues with him. I’ve read the Book of Revelation from one end to another (I was into the whole “Left Behind” thing back in high school) and he doesn’t strike me as a deity I want to worship.
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