Reformed Chicks Blabbing

Reformed Chicks Blabbing

McCain and Obama should probably not accept any more endorsements from pastors

posted by Susan Johnson | 11:12pm Thursday May 29, 2008

They have to keep disavowing the comments that they make. Wright, Hagee, Parsley and now Pfleger’s attack of Clinton:

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Thursday that he was “deeply disappointed” by a supporter’s sermon at his church that mocked Hillary Rodham Clinton.
The Rev. Michael Pfleger, a Chicago activist, also apologized for last Sunday’s sermon at Obama’s church, in which he said Clinton’s eyes welled with tears before the New Hampshire primary because she felt “entitled” to the Democratic nomination and because “there’s a black man stealing my show.”
In video circulating on the Internet, Pfleger said the former first lady expected to win the nomination before Obama’s sudden popularity.
“She just always thought that, ‘This is mine. I’m Bill’s wife. I’m white.’ … And then, out of nowhere, came ‘Hey, I’m Barack Obama.” And she said, ‘Oh damn, where did you come from? I’m white. I’m entitled. There’s a black man stealing my show,’” Pfleger said at Trinity United Church of Christ.
He then went on to parody Clinton, sobbing and wiping his face with a handkerchief.
“She wasn’t the only one crying,” he said. “There was a whole lot of white people crying.”

Who knew pastors would be the source of such controversies this election cycle? Maybe they should just stick to preaching Jesus and him crucified:

ESV 1 Corinthians 2:2 For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.



Previous Posts

One Final Word
My dear friend Michele slipped into eternity on Wednesday, February 1.   She was a remarkable woman who left a legacy of faith, determination, and love. For three years she courageously battled the ovarian cancer that eventually robbed her of her life.  A few days before she died, one of her docto

posted 8:43:41pm Feb. 10, 2012 | read full post »

The rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated
My husband told me that there are rumors that I've died. I'm happy to report that I'm still very much alive. My cancer has gone to stage four but we are controlling it with chemo, the cancer numbers are currently in the normal range. I've stopped blogging to concentrate on my daughters and writing a

posted 7:07:55pm Aug. 23, 2010 | read full post »

An update and a prayer request
Several people have asked about Michele's condition, and have promised to pray for her. On her behalf, I thank you for that. I spoke with her a little while ago, and she asked that I come here and tell you what's going on, and to ask you to pray for her. She isn't able to post here herself right

posted 4:55:36pm Apr. 06, 2010 | read full post »

Rest in peace, Internet Monk.
A man known in the cyber world as The Internet Monk, has died. Michael Spencer lost his battle with cancer tonight. My prayers go out for his family and for all those who loved and will miss him. :(

posted 11:52:00pm Apr. 05, 2010 | read full post »

The peace that passes all understanding, pt. 1
I'm coming out of my normal hiding place to make a few comments. The internet is a strange place. It is often a wonderful place, a helpful place, a unifying place. But it is also alienating, cold, and is the perfect medium in which to depersonalize others. Through it, I have seen people reach out

posted 4:39:08pm Mar. 25, 2010 | read full post »

Advertisement
Comments read comments(14)
post a comment
Karen Brown

posted May 30, 2008 at 12:55 am


Well, technically, Wright didn’t ever officially endorse Obama. He was simply the pastor at the church he attended.
Kind of ironic, in this most religious of all election cycle there’s the most problems with religion IN the election cycle.
So, maybe people should just concern themselves more with their candidates policies, than their church attendance, how much ‘God speak’ they can shove into a serm.. I mean speech, and who their clergy is.



report abuse
 

AlanDP

posted May 30, 2008 at 6:07 am


At least he didn’t threaten to “snuff [her] out.”



report abuse
 

Charles Cosimano

posted May 30, 2008 at 9:04 am


If anything good ultimately comes out of this presidential campaign, it may be that clergy will no longer be permitted within a hundred miles of any candidate.



report abuse
 

RJohnson64

posted May 30, 2008 at 9:32 am


Amen, Charles! Amen! And Amen to Michele for her closing statement.



report abuse
 

KM

posted May 30, 2008 at 10:07 am


“Who knew pastors would be the source of such controversies this election cycle? Maybe they should just stick to preaching Jesus and him crucified:
ESV 1 Corinthians 2:2 For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.”
You hit the nail on the head with this one.



report abuse
 

Alicia

posted May 30, 2008 at 10:34 am


I saw the clips of Phleger on the news this morning. Seriously, I’m writing in Hillary Clinton in November.



report abuse
 

Karen Brown

posted May 30, 2008 at 11:19 am


Well, gee. If I was going to not vote for candidates based on their proximity to, or knowledge of the content of sermons of, whacked out preachers.. I’d never vote again.
Frankly, seems all of them have at least a few sermons in them that are a little crazy, and most of them want to have themselves taped these days. (Not that, in the day of cellphone cameras, anything is really all that private anymore.)



report abuse
 

Michele McGinty

posted May 30, 2008 at 11:24 am


Wow praise for a post, I’m in shock! I better not let it go to my head :-)
BTW, I second the Amen for Charles’ comment. If that were only true, it would be one of the most positive results of this campaign.



report abuse
 

Karen Brown

posted May 30, 2008 at 11:50 am


And want a real shock?
I agree with you and Charles both.
Maybe, with this campaign, with the sheer.. religiosity of it, and the consequences, maybe the next campaign.. the voters will have ‘religion fatigue’ and we can leave the pastors where they belong.. with their parishioners, and not in the center of elections.



report abuse
 

Christopher Taylor

posted May 30, 2008 at 2:42 pm


This church needs its tax exempt status examined: this is obviously politics rather than preaching.



report abuse
 

Karen Brown

posted May 30, 2008 at 3:01 pm


I’d have no problem with that. Especially if it happens to ALL pastors who give political endorsements, turn sermons into stump speeches for candidates, and give out voting and position papers, and try to use sacramental ‘blackmail’ for political leverage.
On BOTH sides of the aisle.



report abuse
 

RJohnson

posted May 30, 2008 at 4:37 pm


“This church needs its tax exempt status examined: this is obviously politics rather than preaching.”
To be honest, all churches would be better off if they simply renounced the tax exemption and trusted God to provide for their needs. The government has no business controlling what is preached from the pulpits of the churches in our country, and through the tax laws the churches have been muzzled. It is a muzzle that they put on willingly and then complain bitterly about.
It is my belief that if a church is doing what they feel God has called them to do, then God will provide for their needs while doing it. If they do it and find that there is no money to support it, perhaps they need to consider that God is trying to restrain them in some way from doing it.



report abuse
 

Thomas

posted May 31, 2008 at 1:48 am


I don’t know which I find the more appalling, that Father Pfleger would release his venom to congregants jumping up and down with pleasure, or that these nitwits with clerical collars thought perhaps Obama had already won the election and their comments would not hurt their (and, coincidentally, my) candidate. I have to wonder if razing Trinity UCC to make new basketball courts might better serve its community and better proclaim its Lord (whomever That might really be).



report abuse
 

Christopher Taylor

posted May 31, 2008 at 12:15 pm


To be honest, all churches would be better off if they simply renounced the tax exemption and trusted God to provide for their needs.
I agree, the system is not healthy for churches or government.



report abuse
 

Post a Comment

By submitting these comments, I agree to the beliefnet.com terms of service, rules of conduct and privacy policy (the "agreements"). I understand and agree that any content I post is licensed to beliefnet.com and may be used by beliefnet.com in accordance with the agreements.

Share this story


About Beliefnet

Our mission is to help people like you find, and walk, a spiritual path that will bring comfort, hope, clarity, strength, and happiness. More about Beliefnet.

Help

Media Kit

Subscribe

Legal

Copyright © Beliefnet, Inc. and/or its licensors. All rights reserved. Use of this site is subject to Terms of Service and to our Privacy Policy. Constructed by Beliefnet.

Advertisement

Report as Inappropriate

You are reporting this content because it violates the Terms of Service.

All reported content is logged for investigation.