You can excoriate Carter all you want, but he’ll never come close to the status of the guy you voted for twice, Worst President in History. So I think your political judgment may be a tad, well, undependable.

Back in the late 70′s, when I considered myself a socialist, and we thought Jimmy Carter was an idiot. In the 90′s, when I worked for a liberal lobbying group, they thought Jimmy Carter was an idiot, too.
I don’t remember Americans in general having much use for Carter by the end of his presidency.
Today, I am a political moderate and registered Republican. Until the past few months, I thought it would be really bad for our country to have another Republican president after the disaster, IMO, of the last 8 years. Now, I’m reconsidering, because I’m not sure I can bring myself to vote for Obama and do fear he will be as weak a president as was Jimmy Carter.

yelladawgNC,
“I don’t care what you say, Bush is a poopyhead”.
Thanks for the enlightened comment.

Too bad you don’t know what you are talking about Susan. I suggest you buy a history book. The hostages were released because of Carter, not their fear of Reagan. Carter released all Iranian assets that were previously frozen. He released those funds days before he left office. Look up “Algiers Accords” of 1981 and you might learn something. Additionally, I think you should acquaint yourself with Iran-Contra before you start singing praises of Reagan. My guess is your memory of that affair will also be revisionist.
It is inane to compare Obama to Carter. Further, I suggest after 8 years of the “go it alone” Bush policy that promises to bankrupt this country, I would think you might consider that we are ready for some new strategies. Especially since the Middle East is even more unstable than it was prior to our entry into Iraq.
Only those with critical thinking skills can learn from history. Clearly you lack those skills.

Eh, yeah he’s President Carter all over again, but with no executive experience. The thing is, too many voters have forgotten or never knew what it was like to suffer under that incompetent busybody’s administration.

“You can excoriate Carter all you want, but he’ll never come close to the status of the guy you voted for twice, Worst President in History. So I think your political judgment may be a tad, well, undependable.”
This is how bad Carter was, yellow dog, he lost in a landslide. That tells you what we thought of him at the time. Worst.president.ever!!
Go check out what the rate of inflation and unemployment was under him. His economy was the worst. You think Bush’s economy is bad? Go check out his.

Unemployment hit 10% under Reagan, while we’re talking about history and all. You also fail to mention that we were trading arms for those hostages in Iran.

The 00′s are reminding me so much of the 70′s I feel like we’re in a re-run. We have an unpopular foreign war, an unpopular Republican president, high gas prices, stagflation, and some of the same fashions.
The 81 recession really stunk and I wouldn’t want to go through that again. But I suspect this is how this movie might end.

You’ll see what a landslide looks like in November, ZZ. And here’s a suggestion: don’t put quotation marks around comments when you are quoting your own asinine distorted version of what somebody else said. There’s a word for that, and it’s lying.

“I am old enough to remember how Carter’s failed ‘ unless we tax the oil companies, they will reap huge and undeserved windfall profits,’ policy created the long lines at the gas pumps, not to mention an increased dependence on foreign oil. This is exactly what Obama proposes.”
you have a selective and faulty memory, it seems. long lines were created by reduced crude production by opec. opec cut oil production by 25% and put an embargo on shipments to the u.s. and other western countries that supported israel in it’s war against egypt and syria back in 1973. immediately, u.s. imports from arab countries dropped from 1.2M barrels per day to 19K barrels per day. the u.s. and allies suffered economically, industries had to cut back, unemployment grew, france’s booming economy was sent into a tailspin. ironically, this embargo is what spurred japan to produce more economic cars, to the chagrin of u.s. automakers today. a month after kissinger proposed that the u.s. become energy independent, opec dropped the embargo.
funny thing, that energy independence is mostly what obama talks about when it comes to oil, and what actually attracted my vote!
but back to your history lesson… in 1979, oil production dropped 4% when khomeini took control of iran. and when iraq invaded iran in 1980, production all but stopped completely in iran and was dramatically cut in iraq, too. contrary to what you claim, the u.s. produced more domestic oil under the carter administration than before. carter also led the way in removing nixon’s price controls on gasoline. under carter, west texas crude oil increased more than 200% and here in colorado, oil exploration and drilling went gangbusters. none of what you say about carter being the cause of gas shortages and long lines at stations is true.
“I am old enough to remember the Iranian/American hostage crisis. I remember the blind-folded hostages being trotted out, for all the world to see on television. The crisis lasted over 444 days! I remember the yellow ribbons everywhere. Carter’s diplomacy failed to bring an end to that crisis. The Iranians knew he didn’t have the will nor the power to confront them. I remember that the hostages were freed minutes after Reagan was inaugurated. They feared Reagan, not so with the peanut farmer from Georgia. Talk about international laughingstock. Now Obama wants to ‘talk’ to Iran, again. Look, if it didn’t work for Carter then why in the world does he think it will work now?”
really? you must be too old then, because you’ve forgotten too many details and your memory is clouded. you remember only tidbits that fuel your ridiculous messianic visions of reagan. most of all, you fail to remember reagan illegally dealing arms with iran (iran-contra). but let’s back up a bit and again review historical facts.
the hostages were captured on 4 nov 1979. to answer this, carter applied political and economic pressure. on 12 nov 1979 carter ended oil imports from iran and froze several billion dollars of iranian assets. thirteen hostages were released on 19 nov 1979. on on 24 april 1980, carter attempted a military rescue (operation eagle claw) that suffered technical setbacks and had to be called off by the recommendation of the military commander.
several things led to the hostage release, first was the death of the shaw, second was the invasion by iraq, and third was the algiers accords negotiated with the iranians by carter on 1 jan 1981, which required the immediate release of the hostages. so you see, it did work for carter, but you want to read more into it with your unsubstantiated fairy tales of the gipper.
on 2 jan 1981, reagan became president, but the iranians didn’t fear reagan, which is obvious because hezbollah captured 30 more western hostages in 1983, 6 of which were americans. now president reagan gave in to terrorists and traded arms for the release of the hostages. not the bold kind of leader everyone misremembers.
“If he gets into office I think it will be because ‘every once in a good while the latest crowd of American voters actually forgets their history (or never learned it in the first place) and gives a Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton a go at holding the reins. Enemies are then appeased, taxes raised, and judges go wild’.”
actually, i think that’s how we got bush. twice. because you just don’t learn history. we got carter because nixon was a crook. we got clinton because bush was a ninny that couldn’t do anything right (hence his worthless offspring).

Sorry, but I have read history, and Michele’s version is worth about as much as that fool that she helped put in the White House. She clearly has only read the Limbaugh version, and that is about what one would expect from a drug addict, draft dodger, and chronic liar.
Pathetic. But this kind of snark is all the GOP has to offer, other than a lousy economy, lying us into wars, a desperate middle class, a wrecked military, a collapsing dollar, neglected infrastructure, trashing the Constitution, trashing the rule of law, lying to Congress and the people, and wrecking our prestige in the world.
If that sounds good to you, vote for McSame. What a deal…..

And she cites the American Spectator.
No wonder her ‘knowledge’ of history is so extensive.
Here’s a tip; when you want to give a history lesson , quote somebody who actually knows something about history. That does not include the American Spectator.

rg, just to clarify, it was susan who got history wrong this time, not michele.

You guys crack me up!
I wondered how long it was going to take after I posted this for the hate-fest to begin…
“Here’s a tip; when you want to give a history lesson , quote somebody who actually knows something about history. That does not include the American Spectator.”
You must be kidding RG. Let me ask you, what sources do you think qualify to be called historically accurate?

Do you have any quibbles with the list of events that was put up, then?

Susan, calling you out for not learning your history isn’t a “hate-fest.”

Gene, please don’t presume to tell me that I did not learn my history.
Clearly we see things differently.

Well, they gave a list of events. Not do you view the events differently, but do you think any of those events didn’t happen?

Sorry, but I have read history
We lived it. And she’s dead on, it took almost 4 years for Reagan to fix the mess Carter put us into.

Dead on? Like the Iran Contra scandal never happened?
Get real.

she may be dead on with your “point of view” but that pov just isn’t backed up with the facts… that’s what’s called fantasy land, mr. taylor.
and just so you know, i enjoyed the 70s and 80s just fine and remember the events as they really happened, and not how the gipper republican spin machine sold them to you. i’m sure that you had tough times and needed someone to blame, and the gipper gave you carter as the convenient scapegoat.
maybe you didn’t read back then, but they did have newspapers. i suggest you go to the library and hit the archives and read past the front page.