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Moveon.org’s really stupid McCain ad

posted by Susan Johnson | 2:00pm Tuesday June 17, 2008

If this is the best that the 3 million members of Moveone.org can come up with, they might want to hire more competent help.This poor woman is very confused. Um…honey, just to reassure you, your baby will only be 8 when McCain leaves office (if he even gets a second term), so I wouldn’t worry about him sending your child over to Iraq. Oh, and maybe you didn’t realize that we have a volunteer army and if you adult son doesn’t want to go, we won’t send him. Rest assured and enjoy your baby. (via)



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Looney

posted June 17, 2008 at 2:54 pm


Just wondering where the dad is …



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Carlos

posted June 17, 2008 at 3:09 pm


The Dad’s in Iraq, Looney.



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Rob

posted June 17, 2008 at 3:13 pm


Perhaps Michelle is unaware that there is still a registration for the draft.



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Looney

posted June 17, 2008 at 3:15 pm


Ohhhh, she is a member of the famous, “Mom’s Moving On while our Husbands are in Iraq committee”. I see …. LOL



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Michele McGinty

posted June 17, 2008 at 3:50 pm


“Michelle is unaware that there is still a registration for the draft.”
Perhaps Rob is unaware that Michele knows more than she’s given credit for. And perhaps Rob might want to explain what this fact has to do with the post, it is a fact that we have a volunteer Army.



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LJG

posted June 17, 2008 at 5:16 pm


And perhaps Michelle is unaware that while we *do* have a volunteer army, we also have people in the current administration trying to install permanent military bases in Iraq. Exactly how do you think we’re going to staff those bases?
If that kid enlists by choice at 18, he could still end up in Iraq under Bush and McCain’s plans because of all those bases. It’s true that McCain would be out of office by then, but if we’re planning any sort of permanent military presence in Iraq, that kid has as much a chance as any other military volunteer to get sent there.
That’s the point of the ad.



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gmo2

posted June 17, 2008 at 5:50 pm


Have to admit it, I think the ad sucks. Now, she could talk about the deficit we’ll have because of the war, or the lack of social programs, or that the war is not making her son safer because we’re not fighting the terrorists, or how the Iraq war is pushing Iran closer to Iraq, or whatever, but the ad is not very good.



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Charles Cosimano

posted June 17, 2008 at 5:58 pm


Considering that anyone in Congress who votes to restore the actual draft might as well commit Hara Kiri on the floor of the House of Senate immediately after the vote, that is not a serious threat.
And if my step-grand-daughter enlists in the military I will disown her. So it really does not matter to me who is in Iraq fifty years from now.



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jestrfyl

posted June 17, 2008 at 6:17 pm


I am of the opinion that all these 527′s should simply find better ways to use their time and money. The foolishness from both sides is in large part one of the bigger holes in the sock of Democracy. Their poor ads (again, both sides) hobble the process and diminish not only the intent but the result. The only thing worse than these ads are the people who allow them to sway their opinion and vote.



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Michele McGinty

posted June 17, 2008 at 6:36 pm


“And perhaps Michelle is unaware that while we *do* have a volunteer army, we also have people in the current administration trying to install permanent military bases in Iraq.”
No, Michele is well aware of that as well. They haven’t hidden the fact that they’re building them and even a stay-at-home mom who is never at home has time enough to keep up with the current news, especially if she’s blogging about current events.
“Exactly how do you think we’re going to staff those bases?”
Um…our volunteer army, of course. Don’t worry about it, there will be plenty of people who will go. She doesn’t have to worry about her son having to go. That’s the point of my post.



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myshkin2

posted June 17, 2008 at 9:28 pm


Yes, this ad goes straight for the lowest common denominator–but then again, what about the power of images such as The PIETA? What about mothers grieving over their sons lost in war? Check out the Talmudic passages where Sarah begs Abraham not to take her son off on some male journey because she senses he’s going to be killed? We certainly don’t seem to expect Dads to fight to keep their sons out of war; at least we still expect at least some resistance on the part of moms. And, no, this is not about conscription; it’s about the fetishization of the military and violence throughout the world.



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ZZ

posted June 18, 2008 at 9:39 am


“if my step-grand-daughter enlists in the military I will disown her”
Maybe cold-hearted and irrational attitudes like THAT are the reasons you’re divorced and have only a “step” granddaughter.



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RG

posted June 18, 2008 at 12:39 pm


I do not regard the draft as at all improbable, should the neocons have their way. They want to have more wars against Iran, and possibly others like Syria. We would win the war, but it’s the occupation that is diffucult, as we and a lot of others have found out.
Both of my grandfathers were drafted into WW1 and my father was a draftee in WW2. My father saw a lot of action, and it affected him to this day. A friend of mine’s father was on the beach on D-Day, and he still wakes up screaming about the Germans some nights, all these years later.
I think it is the ultimate sin for a leader to take a nation to war – unless we are attacked , or as a last resort only. Bush has taken us to war on misinformation, and that’s why his family has bought land in Ecuador, which would not give him up to the World Court for trial for war crimes. Look it up – it’s true.



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Michele McGinty

posted June 25, 2008 at 10:34 am


“And, no, this is not about conscription; it’s about the fetishization of the military and violence throughout the world.’
The fetishization is infantizing our military.



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Michele McGinty

posted June 25, 2008 at 10:36 am


“I do not regard the draft as at all improbable, should the neocons have their way. They want to have more wars against Iran, and possibly others like Syria.”
I doubt that the draft will ever be reinstated given how high-tech our military has become. You need career soldiers, not guys who don’t want to be there.



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