Compare him to Kennedy and still call him a “Lightworker”? Hmmm…Maybe Marilyn Monroe might agree but I don’t think her concept of “Lightworker” and these spiritual baboons’ concept would match.
But let me leave this aside. This is actually an IMPORTANT issue in the defining of candidates. The Obamanation is viewed in a very MORAL context. He has been sanctified in the minds of many.
Most people, when they look in the mirror, (and this includes BORN AGAINS. i.e. Christians, those who have believed on Christ as Savior) they see inadequacy and self doubt. Yes, many put on a good front since socializing in this way is what we learn to do early on. But truthfully, people are filled with doubts, even believers to a large extent. Maybe it is part of the human condition (for believers it is due to mostly horrible doctrinal instruction from lacking teachers or never the believer deciding to love this world, hence remaining spiritually immature).
Think about even Christians. Why are they so eager to be sycophantic with Rick Warren’s apostate “Purpose Driven Con Job”, or many, many black believers wrongfully embracing a race driven ideology, theology and philosophy, or Reformed/Covenant/Calvinists running like children to daddy John and the names of Piper and whomever else they have christened as the “enlightened” one? Because they are fearful and in need of answers. And not just answers but answers that give them the assurance (a wrong assurance but real to them) that there could be no alternatives to all that is encompassed in a certain theology or philosophy.
So imagine unbelievers who are not given the divine assets and illumination of divine truth the believer has. They are not only without a spiritual savior they are without a temporal one as well. And for many, their moral compass may work but it is subject to relevance. So they naturally are seeking a savior to sanctify them through his or her leadership. They want redemption. And what other way to find a redeemer than impute to some potential leader qualities and virtues of a redeemer?
So someone has to be knighted. Obama fills this gap. He provides an answer to white guilt (see, we chose a black man so we are okay now), unjustified but real black anger at issues that will never be solved completely on earth, and a contrast to a President who claimed a moral compass but engaged in a war with conflicting justification and of course didn’t help his own cause with being one of the worst Presidential speech givers in modern history.
Ronald Reagan was given the same halo The Obamanation is being given. Yes, Reagan is a different man and in that I depart from the comparison only to point out at times certain leaders are viewed deliberately and out of necessity (due to the inadequacy of soul and spirit) this way.
The hope is, however, that the fraudulent persona now being projected onto The Obamanation will be understood by enough people to avoid their voting out of naivety. However, it is a strange time in America so we shall see.

I wonder what Morford’s definition of a “deeply spiritual person” is… Somehow I don’t think we’d agree. Anyway, if we accept Morford’s argument (which I don’t), doesn’t that make Obama some sort of antichrist?

I might need a new job soon, but I think instead of looking for one, I’ll just sit on my behind and let Barry hand me a job. Sound like a plan?

Umm… it isn’t atheists calling Obama a ‘lightworker’. That’s New Age practitioners.
But, hey, you have no idea how often I’d heard people say that Bush had to be doing the right thing, despite all the consequences, and the information coming out because, after all, he was a good Christian man. He was born again. He prayed, and claimed to be doing God’s will, therefore he was, and what happened was God’s will.
And unlike Obama, whom I never heard (you can correct me if I’m wrong) claim was a messiah, a lightworker, or any of these other things you state over and over that ALL his supporters think he is, Bush actually did make those claims.
Are there some New Age loons supporting Obama? Sure.
Were there some Christian loons supporting Bush? Sure.
Are any religious/spiritual loons supporting McCain?
Umm.. heck, even his own party isn’t that enthusiastic about him, so probably not.
And that’s not a compliment.

Let us not blaspheme Oprah, who hath made her choice.

Eh, the problem is the hype and the press can prop the man up far beyond his personal abilities and ignore his flaws. Look at what the boomers think of JFK, he was a mediocre president with one bright moment and a lot of miserable failures. Yet he’s idolized, and the joker who wrote this column thinks he’s “vital to our national identity.” Why? Because popular culture can have a pretty powerful hold on the intellectually immature and the weak minded. And the press can keep that lie alive a very long time.

Yeah, worked for Bush for about 5 years.
Obama is a decent speaker and most of his platform I agree with. Frankly, I think the amazement is due to the bar being set so low after years of someone who couldn’t read a teleprompter without tripping on his own tongue.
(Which makes it funny that they want to claim he’s being equated with being a messiah due to his oratorical skills, but is nonetheless a verbal ‘gaffe machine’, which did not catch on. No matter how many times it was repeated in the news, and on talking points.)
And again, that whole Lightworker business? Got nothing to do with nonbelievers. (Heck, even the article talked about ‘deeply spiritual people’ promoting it.)

I’m tempted to say that words fail me, but they really don’t. This nonsense is only going to get worse until November, at which time the disgusted voters will defeat Obama, not because he is a bad candidate, or that they like McCain, but because the “bleech response” will kick in and they won’t be able to stand seeing his face.

People claim he’s being equated with the messiah precisely because his constant gaffe making and reversals of positions are ignored by the fawning, obsessive, embarrassingly crushy press that admits they adore the man. People putting out pictures of Obama rising from the water with unicorns splashing behind him and roses bursting from his crotch, pictures of Obama looking into the distance and upward with a halo of light around his head, sculptures and images of Obama as Jesus Christ are not made by his enemies, Karen.
The ones calling Obama the messiah are his friends and allies and idiots like the ones writing this article. You can try your hardest to pretend that somehow President Bush has the slightest thing to do with this race or that people remotely even began to in any small way treat Bush with this sort of worship, but even you know that’s not true.

Just one example Christopher:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvIOPiKFrs

The thing with “Lightworkers” is that they can make US see what WE can do. The best and most memorable line from JKF is and always will be: “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.”
Obama’s line so far seems to be: “Yes we can!” We need a leader that trust’s us to do the right thing instead of one that is in our face, bedrooms and taping our phones. We have had to many years of “Fears and Tears” It is about time we believed in US.
Bush is not a lightworker, he has us living in dark times. That is why people want to believe that Obama is a Messiah, whether his or not. JKF was not the best President we had but we prospered in spite of his shortcomings because we believed in his dream, just as we wanted to believe in MLK. Now we can see that American has seen the light and Martin’s dream is being lived.
Many of us are not seeing Obama as a Black Man running for office but as a Man running for President who happens to be Black and has a dream for all Americans.
McCain may be better qualified for the Office but he can’t seem to instill a dream or a passion in us.

Frickin’ creepy. I wonder how all of the children slaughtered in abortions feel as their lights are extinquished. Now we know the reason the child’s head is left in the birth canal as its neck is torn open and its brain is sucked out. There has never been a more hypocrital person on earth than a liberal-progressive Democrat.

I am for Obama, not because I think he’s some sort of Messiah, but because he seems like a decent, intelligent, thoughtful man with policies that I mostly agree with. And certainly agree with much more than those policies of the present administration.
As for a lack of experience, Cheney and Rummy have lots of it. They go back to the Nixon White House, for goodness sake. And they didn’t do a good job at all- to be kind. Lincoln had a pretty short resume when he was elected and he did very well. I’m not saying that Obama is Lincoln- that’s a very high bar indeed- but he does seem to have some very fine qualities. Also, the GOP of today is not very conservative- it’s actually very radical- and they have proven themselves incapable of competant, honest governance.

I’m sick of this Liberal/abortion talk. We have a “Pro-life” President who had a “Pro-life Senate” and a “Pro-life House” and NOT ONE MEASURE was passed or signed into law for six years.
When are you going to get it? The GOP s no more pro-life or pro marriage than the Democrats. The only thing that the Republicans have shown me is that they are “Pro-money” and “Pro-death” and “Anti” on everything else.
That’s why I left the ‘Grand Old Party’ years ago. They have lied to America and taken away my hope. I was tired of being “Conned” by them.

“And unlike Obama, whom I never heard (you can correct me if I’m wrong) claim was a messiah, a lightworker, or any of these other things you state over and over that ALL his supporters think he is, Bush actually did make those claims.”
Well, Obama may not think he’s being messianic but when you hear him say that we will heal the planet and push back the tides, that’s pretty standard messiah talk.

“The thing with “Lightworkers” is that they can make US see what WE can do. The best and most memorable line from JKF is and always will be: “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.”
And what did they do for their country?
“Obama’s line so far seems to be: “Yes we can!” We need a leader that trust’s us to do the right thing”
And what is that?

“I’m sick of this Liberal/abortion talk. We have a “Pro-life” President who had a “Pro-life Senate” and a “Pro-life House” and NOT ONE MEASURE was passed or signed into law for six years.”
This is crap! What about partial birth abortion ban? What about Bush vetoing embryonic stem cell research?

Umm.. actually, I have no idea what ‘standard Messiah’ talk is. Haven’t seen too many. Only ones I know are Biblical, and never heard a one of those talking about the people, together, ‘healing the planet’.
That’s a bit New Agey, perhaps, but the New Age doesn’t have messiahs. They have things like Avatars, and they’re kinda equal opportunity. Anyone can be one.
And geez, ‘Push back the tide’ (assuming we’re talking the metaphorical tides of things like ‘hatred’ or ‘crime’ or whatever) is standard for political speeches. Reagan used it, talking about ‘turning back the tide of Soviet advances’, etc.
Not that I’ve ever heard an Obama speech specifically talking about ‘healing the planet’. I’ve heard about doing things to benefit it, etc. But not that, actually. Perhaps if you can cite?
Those aren’t ‘Messiah statements’. Otherwise he would claim HE could do such things, alone. They are standard political speech cliches used over and over by just about everyone at one time or another.

Just one example Christopher:
Admiration and affection for someone is not the same as worship or portraying someone as “a lightbringer” or constant imagery of him as a savior of us all – heavily supported by his own rhetoric.
The terror and ignorance so many have on the left of religion leads them to freak out when someone admits they pray to God and believe He guides their life, yet embrace someone who speaks as if they are god and guides everyone’s life.
“I’m sick of this Liberal/abortion talk. We have a “Pro-life” President who had a “Pro-life Senate” and a “Pro-life House” and NOT ONE MEASURE was passed or signed into law for six years.”
President Bush also used his power as the president to block free abortions done overseas at military bases. He did more to fight abortion than any president before him. In no way can anyone truthfully claim that the left is pro-life and the right pro-abortion.
What we’re seeing here with the treatment of Obama by the left is where BDS suffering lunatics go when they don’t have Bush to hate any more. They turn that madness into worship of a Chicago machine politician, which is every bit as absurd.

he was a mediocre president with one bright moment and a lot of miserable failures.
And what did they do for their country?
I was in a church not my own this morning and mention was made of some young church members beginning two year stints with the Peace Corps.
I wondered to myself how many know that Kennedy started the Peace Corps: “Kennedy saw the Peace Corps as a means of countering the notions of the ‘Ugly American’ and ‘Yankee imperialism,’ especially in the emerging nations of post-colonial Africa and Asia.”

Christopher stated, in reference to my post: “Admiration and affection for someone is not the same as worship or portraying someone as “a lightbringer” or constant imagery of him as a savior of us all – heavily supported by his own rhetoric”
Give specific examples what Obama is stating in his words or imagery that is different than other politicans that he is a “savior.” If you fail to see the youtube link as worship of Bush, nothing would convince you! Denial has it’s reasons.
I know there are those who worship any public figure, and Obama has some. Hillary obviously had some. The way Michelle posted about the TV star who “ran” on the republican side, (I think he was like Hillary, waiting on his being “crowned” by the party, based on the “race” he ran) I was beginning to think she worshiped him. Because a person is worshiped by someone, that does not per se create fault in the person worshiped. How many people worship their lover? A pastor? A CEO? Bush had a religious right that worshiped him, and yet I don’t fault him for their “worship” of him.

“You can try your hardest to pretend that somehow President Bush has the slightest thing to do with this race…”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
“or that people remotely even began to in any small way treat Bush with this sort of worship, but even you know that’s not true.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
that has got to be the DUMBEST yet funniest thing i’ve read this month.

Wow Donny, it seems that you love fetuses more than you love actual human beings. Why can’t evangelicals and other conservative Christians be half as concerned about people after they exit the womb as they are when they are in the womb?

Michele,
You speak as if Bush vetoing embryonic stem cell research is a GOOD thing. I understand your pro-life perspective, but how in the world can you equate a 150-cell blastocyst that is frozen in a laboratory to a fetus growing inside a mother’s womb? Especially when potentially life-saving and disease-curing research could be performed on the blastocysts, which are just going to be thrown out anyway (and were donated by the mother anyway, and would not be experimented on without the mother’s express consent).
I mean, pro-life Republican senators such as Orrin Hatch and John McCain (neither of whom could exactly be described as flaming liberals) oppose abortion but support embryonic stem cell research. Obviously they do not think these things are two sides of the same coin. It is time so-called “people of faith” would learn to do the same.
P.S. There is nothing in the Bible that says (or even hints) that a fetus, much less a blastocyst, is equivalent to an already-born person.

Also, why should modern science be subservient to a 2,000-year old religious text? The Bible is a book about God and spirituality, not a book about science or human sexuality.

Also, you know that Bush only vetoed embryonic stem cell research because he was pandering to his Christian Right base…many of his Republican colleagues actually supported ESCR, but if he passed that bill, the Christian Right would pull their support from him, and without them, his approval rating would be in the single digits right about now.

“P.S. There is nothing in the Bible that says (or even hints) that a fetus, much less a blastocyst, is equivalent to an already-born person.”
Do you read the Psalms? How about the Luke? How about the words of Paul?

“Also, you know that Bush only vetoed embryonic stem cell research because he was pandering to his Christian Right base…many of his Republican colleagues actually supported ESCR, but if he passed that bill, the Christian Right would pull their support from him, and without them, his approval rating would be in the single digits right about now.”
What does it matter to me why he did it? I’m just happy he did it.

Wow, the Psalms mention blastocysts? That’s impressive.
Oh, you’re talking the ‘formed in the womb’ part. You do know the blastocyst is pre-implantation.
So its not technically IN the womb yet, its in transit. So guess its not covered.

Please quote the verses from Psalms, Luke, and those sayings of St. Paul you believe support a pro-life position. I am merely asking what passages you glean your anti-abortion views from in a respectful manner.
Even if those passages DO imply that a fetus is the same as a fully developed human being, can it really be saying the same thing about blasotcysts? I second you, Karen.
Does modern scientific research really need to be subservient to religious scriptures that are thousands of years old, written in a pre-scientific era?
Honestly, it’s anti-science views like that that turned me away from Christianity and religion in general (you’ll also see many Jews, Muslims, etc. espousing similar views about science being subservient to religion).