In this election it is probably irrelevant anyway.

So, besides running ads to condemn people like Obama, what the heck does ‘The Family Research Council’ do?
Do they provide pre-natal care to poor expectant mothers? Do they get crack/HIV babies adopted out of poor areas? Do they get kids out of for-profit-foster-care into loving Evangelical homes?
I DO NOT LIKE ABORTION. But, this stuff is useless. If you really think that back alley abortions won’t be a reality if Roe V. Wade is re-decided, you live in fantasy land.
Then, the dead mothers will be on your hands.
Abortion is a Biblical reality. See NUMBERS 5:11-29. It’s also a physiological reality when women undergo their cycles, it’s probable that by Evangelical standards an abortion can take place.
If you think the STATE can legislate that people – who were dumb enough not to wear protection; or better control their passions – care for children.
‘The Family Research Council’ is doing nothing but blowing hot air. And as the saying goes, ‘If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.’
STOP AIRING THESE ADS & START ADOPTING.
‘The Family Research Council’ is part of the same lunacy that drives Evangelicals to hire lawyers making sure manger scenes are present, rather than feeding the homeless.

I couldn’t have said it better myself, Brian. The hypocrisy of the Evangelical opposition to abortion while simultaneously opposing aid to poor women with children in the form of job training, or day care, or health insurance or any number of other programs makes me ill.
As for Obama supporting “infanticide,” how many products and services from India and China do you purchase/wear/use routinely, Michele? You are supporting REAL infanticide if you do. Full term, healthy baby girls have been killed by the millions in those countries because they happen to be of the “wrong” sex. So maybe you ought to take some action about your own complicity in such acts before you start accusing and judging others.

If someone is going to murder their helpless baby, they belong in a back alley not in public like it’s normal to murder your own child. Then they should go to prison just as if they murdered a born child.

The hypocrisy of the Evangelical opposition to abortion while simultaneously opposing aid to poor women with children in the form of job training, or day care, or health insurance or any number of other programs makes me ill.
As it should. It’s one thing to oppose abortion. It’s another to *truly* be pro-life.
Being pro-life is about the whole life of a person, from conception to death. It’s not just about the nine months in the womb and the difficult choices that people have to make during that time. It’s also about making sure that those babies grow up to get proper vaccines, good health care, a good education, healthy foods to eat, clean air to breathe, clean water to drink, and that their parents can find affordable day care, and job training and help with paying for college for them and their kids.
But it’s so much more politically expedient for groups like the Family Research Council to focus on the pregnancy and birth, then wash their hands entirely after the fact. A lot of these so-called “pro-life” groups stop caring at all once the baby is out of the womb, which shows just how limited and small their thinking is.

I am with Brian
I am also with LJG, I have often wondered how a person who is so sure that abortion is wrong can be the same person who does not follow up on the child’s rearing. I am pro-choice but have never had to choose an abortion, we were fortunate, with God’s help we were able to give the enormous amount of energy, time, love, and care that every human being needs to grow up spiritually, socially, and physically healthy,
It is no small task how can people be so limited in their thought pattern? It breaks my heart when I see a child who is in need of anything and there is no substitute for love they have to have consistent love in order to feel themselves valuable, as they are valuable, they are God’s children
The part I have NEVER understood also is this. Do people REALLY think that if molly singer gets an abortion and this is a seed our Lord wants sown that God is not more powerful than our Molly Singer. If God wants a child born he or she WILL be born, regardless of human ignorance and yes arrogance, God is not on our level. Human action,
is nothing in comparison to God’s power. God help the babies who are born not wanted can you imagine how that would feel? There are SO many children now on this Earth who need attention, love, money we must put our efforts into helping them, are the “anti-choice” doing this? Visit schools help out get to know some of the kids it will break your heart , well it did mine.

“Do they provide pre-natal care to poor expectant mothers? Do they get crack/HIV babies adopted out of poor areas? Do they get kids out of for-profit-foster-care into loving Evangelical homes?”
They might not do it but there are plenty of people who do. Go to your phone book and look up crisis pregnancy center.
“NUMBERS 5:11-29″
There is no mention in that passage that the adulterous wife is pregnant when she is tested.

“As for Obama supporting “infanticide,” how many products and services from India and China do you purchase/wear/use routinely, Michele? You are supporting REAL infanticide if you do. Full term, healthy baby girls have been killed by the millions in those countries because they happen to be of the “wrong” sex. So maybe you ought to take some action about your own complicity in such acts before you start accusing and judging others.”
I’m sorry, but your analogy is crap. Obama had the ability to end infanticide but did not. How am I to end infanticide by not purchasing products?

“Being pro-life is about the whole life of a person, from conception to death. It’s not just about the nine months in the womb and the difficult choices that people have to make during that time. It’s also about making sure that those babies grow up to get proper vaccines, good health care, a good education, healthy foods to eat, clean air to breathe, clean water to drink, and that their parents can find affordable day care, and job training and help with paying for college for them and their kids.”
I’m sorry but you don’t get to define what pro-life means. We don’t have to raise the child just to save its life.

“Do people REALLY think that if molly singer gets an abortion and this is a seed our Lord wants sown that God is not more powerful than our Molly Singer. If God wants a child born he or she WILL be born, regardless of human ignorance and yes arrogance, God is not on our level. Human action,
is nothing in comparison to God’s power.”
But following your logic, God could stop any murder he wants. Does that exempt the murderer? Is he still accountable for this crime? What about the mother who ends the life of her baby?
“I have often wondered how a person who is so sure that abortion is wrong can be the same person who does not follow up on the child’s rearing.”
So, it’s better for us to just keep our mouths shut and millions of babies be murdered? Is that really what you’re saying? Unless we plan to raise the baby ourselves, we should say anything? Better to let the baby die than let it be born unloved, huh?

I’m sorry but you don’t get to define what pro-life means.
Sure I do. Because if you’re just considering yourself pro-life for opposing abortion, you’re doing it wrong. Pro-life is a seamless garment that encompasses a person’s entire life. It doesn’t just end when the baby is born.
It’s called a consistent ethic of life. Try it sometime.
We don’t have to raise the child just to save its life.
And that right there shows your selfishness. You think that because a child was born, that your job is done. Wrong.
By working for all of those other things you ARE saving its life. You’re making sure that the baby, and everyone else, is having the best life they can.
IMO, if all you care about is the nine months in the womb, then you’re selfish and short-sighted. You should care about far more than that.

Hi michelle
I do not believe abortion within the first 2 months IS murder
It is stopping the process of an embryo growing into a baby
Yes until every child can be given a loving home adequate resources maturity etc.. abortion should be an option IN MY OPINION.
It is not murder it is an interruption in the growth process in my opinion.
Our God is AN AWESOME GOD
If our father wants a birth to go to completion nothing man or woman will do will change that, We are puny miniscule and can’t even grasp
God’s POWER. Trust me if someone terminates a pregnancy God wants completed it will never ever happen. Again my opinion the one i came to when i struggle with this issue of abortion,
My mother is the nicest woman I and many others have ever met. The light of god shines through her. She went through menopause and got pregnant at forty something I can not rememmber the exact age. Our household turned upside down, the dr. said with mom’s heart it very well would kill her. Mom was so distraught she just was tore apart. I thank God she terminated the process of baby. it was not an easy decision and that is an understatement and mom who was blessed with a family of 5 children said the abortion was horrible not just emotionally but physically and expressed sincere doubt abortion would ever be used as birth control.You can call my mother a murderer but remember judge not ye not be judged. I am for choice and will leave my decision to be weighed with my god a God of love. And for others I respect their opinion it is between them and their god. I would never tell or suggest anyone to terminate a preganancy that is their choice
my daughter has a friend here from Brazil prostitution is legal and encouraged at age 11. Children are starving. Should we not concentrate in helping the individuals already here? Give our energy not in arguing but in helping? At this time abortion is a legal option a choice I am good with and some people are not. It will just have to be fought out in the legal system. I will not let it make me hate or dislike or judge anyone/ Love your god with all your heart soul and mind and your neighbor as yourself I hold tightly to this as I travel this sometimes confusing difficult world. in love lisa /

“‘m sorry but you don’t get to define what pro-life means.
Sure I do.”
No, you don’t. It’s already been defined. According to Merriam-Webster:
opposed to abortion
“IMO, if all you care about is the nine months in the womb, then you’re selfish and short-sighted. You should care about far more than that.”
It’s appropriate that you didn’t add the “h.”
So, you think that if the child isn’t supported by the pro-life community, then it’s better off dead?

I’d have to guess if you are “pro-life,” then you’d also be opposed to the death penalty and opposed to warfare as well. And the point is fair enough that you’d want every effort to provide health care and eradicate poverty, treat addiction, and all the other things that lead to premature death. If you’re just “pro-life” on the abortion issue, then maybe your idea of “pro-life” is that YOU get to decide who lives and who dies. I dunno, just something to consider.

“I’d have to guess if you are “pro-life,” then you’d also be opposed to the death penalty and opposed to warfare as well. ”
Why would you think that?

According to Merriam-Webster:
LOL! The best definition you can offer me is something out of a dictionary? You can’t possibly be serious.
So, you think that if the child isn’t supported by the pro-life community, then it’s better off dead?
No. I think that if the only thing the so-called “pro-life” community cares about is the nine months in the womb, then they’re not really pro-life. They’re just against abortion.
*Really* being pro-life is about so much more than that.
Why would you think that?
I know this wasn’t directed at me, but I think I can answer it.
Because someone who is truly “pro-life” has a consistent ethic of life. They oppose not only abortion, but euthanasia, unjustified war, and the death penalty, and they work to ease poverty and other causes of social justice because they believe that by doing so, they’re improving the quality of life for others that would in turn reduce all the issues they oppose.
Just opposing abortion isn’t enough. What happens after that baby is born? Do you just stop caring at all?
No, you don’t have to raise the kid yourself. But if all you care about is whether it’s born or not, then you’re just against abortion. You’re not truly pro-life.

this is the problem that you get into when right wing conservatives mislabel their activism. they should have stuck with “anti-abortion” or more appropriately, anti-choice. they’re allowed to chose for themselves to not have an abortion, but they want to go farther than that – they want to take away other peoples’ choice too. pro-life is a canard, purposefully misleading. call it what you like, but most who take your position are not about pro-life.