So, now that it has become abundantly clear to everyone including the MSM (haven't seen any stories about civil wars in Iraq lately, have you?) and the left (which I know is redundant) that the surge has accomplished the goal of stabilizing Iraq, the left's new mantra has been that there hasn't been any improvement in the political situation but apparently the left is wrong again. The Iraqi government evidently believes that they have made enough progress for us to leave:
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki raised the prospect on Monday of setting a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops as part of negotiations over a new security agreement with Washington.I bet since al-Maliki has been using his troops to push back at Sadr and al-Qaeda, he has demonstrated to the terrorists (and Iran) that the Iraqis are ready to defend themselves. Let's give them what they want and get the heck out of there.It was the first time the U.S.-backed Shi'ite-led government has floated the idea of a timetable for the removal of American forces from Iraq. The Bush administration has always opposed such a move, saying it would give militant groups an advantage.
Wouldn't it be amazing if we started drawing down troops before the election. What would the left whine about then? Afghanistan?
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"The fact that Iraq has expressed such CONFIDENCE now only points to the error of the LEFTY LIB Democrats who claimed from one end to the other NOTHING about this engagement WOULD be successful."
it was successful in killing TENS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. it was successful at driving up the cost of oil. it was successful at crushing iraq's infrastructure. it was successful at draining the finances out of the united states. i think the lefty lib democrats pretty much predicted those crowning achievements of this engagement.
but go ahead and put lipstick on that pig and take it out for a date if you like, guy.
RJohnson, Bill Clinton is my favorite President of my adult lifetime, so I'm probably biased in his favor. I'm calling it like I see it about the Left in relation to "giving aid and comfort to George W. Bush." I'm not inclined to favor Bush - I think he is an incompetent who never should have run for President.
"... that's what we were saying way back then. i'm glad that you've caught up with us, michele."
Sorry but it's you who are catching up with us. You guys wanted to remove the troops with them completing their job, we wanted them to complete what they started and then leave so that they would not have to return.
Gonna try this again, Michele.
Define, clearly and concisely (because this is about military operations, not religion or philosophy) what 'finished' is.
When is it 'complete'? What are the defining characteristics that would let us know when the mission is completed as opposed to when it is not? And how does now fit that definition as opposed to 15 months ago, which was the first time the Iraqi government asked us to go. (So, that they asked can't be the primary condition.)
From the Huffington Post 7/9/08:
"You'd think with all the media consternation with the non-existent `flip flop' of Obama on Iraq (you know, the one where he didn't change his position at all), reporters would be blowing their stack at the true flip flop from John McCain on Iraq.
Late yesterday, Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki said it's time for the US to leave, or set a timetable to leave.
There you have it. The Iraqis are basically telling the US that they endorse Obama's policy -- they want us to set a timetable to bring the troops home. John McCain in 2004 said we'd respect such a request, telling the Council on Foreign Relations:
`Well, if that scenario evolves than I think it's obvious that we would have to leave because -- if it was an elected government of Iraq, and we've been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government then I think we would have other challenges, but I don't see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people.'
I just checked the McCain campaign website, and so far, he hasn't announced today that he will respect the sovereign government of Iraq, and adjust his Iraq policy to include a timeline for bringing troops home.
Well, maybe he said something but it wasn't on the website yet?
According to the Washington Post:
`McCain was silent on the comments Monday.'"
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