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Is Wall-E left-wing propaganda?

posted by Susan Johnson | 1:12pm Thursday July 3, 2008

That’s the question of this MSNBC report:BTW, the host of this show is terrible! He’s worse than Sean Hannity in not letting his guest answer questions (and that’s saying a lot because I thought Hannity was the worst). It’s clear that he wasn’t going to let the right sound reasonable on this issue but ridicule their point of view for the entire interview. (A good host would have let the guest hang himself with his own rope.) And also notice that he leaves out a very important part to the Jonah Goldberg quote. What a hack!(via)Well, yeah of course it’s left-wing propaganda. Who can dispute that? Even my daughters got that. There’s an evil corporation that has enticed the occupants of the planet to over consume to the point that they make the earth unlivable so they take to outer space.But that shouldn’t stop you from taking your kids to see it because it’s actually a wonderful movie filled with hope and love. Very well done and visually attractive. The animation is excellent as always (no surprise since it’s from Pixar). Eventually the humans realize that they have a connection to the planet and should return to help salvage the earth. And Wall-E is such a wonderful example of the importance of community and of love in the life of….well…er…not necessarily a robot but a robot as metaphor for humans :-) Plus there is even a conservative message that made it into the movie: the importance of not allowing the government to take over running your life. You should be in control and not allow the government to make decisions for you. And another bonus was the message of the summer for my family: the importance of diet and exercise :-) And btw, even some of us conservatives are against over consuming and know the importance of recycling.



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Jesi

posted July 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm


If this movie is anti-capitalism, then I never learned what capitalism is. It’s a about competition and the consumers choosing the best product from a plethora of option. The point of WALL-E is that there was only one corporation selling anything. The people had no choice, they had to purchase Buy-N-Large products because they were the only ones available – from food, to gas, to the banking system. The Buy-N-Large President was also the global leader. It’s he who makes the decision to abandon earth. Government and the market are the same thing in WALL-E’s world. I just don’t see how that can be considered capitalism.



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John T Meche III

posted July 3, 2008 at 2:00 pm


I don’t think it’s left wing propaganda. I think that even the most right wing person could admit that if humans ran through all of the Earth’s natural resources and if they did not have a way to recyle the wastes back into something usable, then it’s possible something like that could happen. That’s not political at all. That’s hypothetical, and it’s common sense. Now, naturally it would be a very very very long time before the Earth would get in a state like the one in the movie, but I don’t think that Pixar is saying that the movie is set in 2010. It’s set very far in the future.
Another thing is that they’re jumping on this idea that the movie has it out for fat people by portraying them as stupid and immobile. That’s nonsense! If anyone lived their whole life sitting in a chair, sipping food through a straw, playing on the net, and being what to do by a computer, that person would probably be pretty immobile and stupid.



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KM

posted July 3, 2008 at 2:26 pm


“And btw, even some of us conservatives are against over consuming and know the importance of recycling.”
So if conservatives are against over consuming, and not over cosuming is the message of the movie, how is it left-wing propoganda?



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MH

posted July 3, 2008 at 5:11 pm


When Pixar made the Incredibles they got accused of producing Ayn Rand inspired Objectivism propaganda which is pro-capitalist.
Those Pixar guys just can’t seem to win.



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Paul

posted July 3, 2008 at 6:23 pm


The idea of the movie that humans will leave earth after turning it into a dump is only a small point of the movie. The heroine of the movie is sent back to find out if there is life and finds love.
As far as the host being bad, it was MSNBC wasn’t it? But let’s get real here, the guest was being ridiculous and his views were just plan dumb.



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anonymous reincarnate

posted July 3, 2008 at 6:29 pm


“So if conservatives are against over consuming, and not over cosuming is the message of the movie, how is it left-wing propoganda?”
that’s what i want to know! since when is keeping the planet healthy only a concern for the left? well, if that’s the way the right wants to play it, then i suppose it’s their loss.
WTH? can’t people just go see a friggin’ movie to enjoy it? this kind of analysis is pathetic. my dad is constantly criticizing my children’s school because the math book word problems come across to him as “liberal propaganda.” it’s just math. now math, science, the msm, and pixar movies are liberal. i guess that doesn’t leave much for conservatives. no wonder they play the victim role so well, they’ve psychoanalyzed themselves into a corner, surrounded on all sides by what they perceive to be an evil liberal world. sad.



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Paul C. Quillman

posted July 3, 2008 at 7:36 pm


Can’t we just enjoy a movie from time to time, without the politics? My kids want to see Wall-E, and so do my wife and I. Enough with the politics. It looks like a fun movie.



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anonymous reincarnate

posted July 3, 2008 at 7:43 pm


paul c. quillman, i encourage you to see it. i took my family to see it just this afternoon. it was a fun, and emotional movie. my kids loved it. every time a new one of these hits the screen, i am awed by the sophistication of the graphics.



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Rob

posted July 3, 2008 at 11:29 pm


“BTW, the host of this show is terrible! He’s worse than Sean Hannity in not letting his guest answer questions (and that’s saying a lot because I thought Hannity was the worst).”
He certainly let his guests talk in this clip. You were referring to other interviews?
And you let your children see a movie advocating robot marriage?



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Michele McGinty

posted July 4, 2008 at 8:49 am


“He certainly let his guests talk in this clip. You were referring to other interviews?”
No, he didn’t. He kept talking over the conservative guest.
“And you let your children see a movie advocating robot marriage?”
There was no marriage in the movie, robot or otherwise.



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Michele McGinty

posted July 4, 2008 at 8:51 am


“So if conservatives are against over consuming, and not over cosuming is the message of the movie, how is it left-wing propoganda?”
It’s anti-corporations a point the first commenter missed and it’s clearly an metaphor for global warming. Even my kids got that.



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Anonymous

posted July 4, 2008 at 11:49 am


Well, yeah of course it’s left-wing propaganda. Who can dispute that? Even my daughters got that. There’s an evil corporation that has enticed the occupants of the planet to over consume to the point that they make the earth unlivable…
In other words, what’s “left-wing propaganda” to Michele is what the rest of us call “reality.”
Thanks for playing!



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Jesi

posted July 5, 2008 at 6:11 am


“It’s anti-corporations a point the first commenter missed”
Just because I didn’t put that in my post doesn’t mean I missed it. I am very aware that it is anti-corporations, it was very obvious throughout the entire movie. However, my comment had nothing to do with the fact that the movie is anti-corporations. It was about the fact that because choice of the consumer and the free market does not exist in the movie, it cannot be considered anti-capitalism. Anti-corporation and anti-capitalism are not the same thing. In fact, I would say the movie advocates capitalism, in that it is against a lack of a free market. However, it does not advocate a wasteful, irresponsible capitalism, instead, a capitalism that requires accountability.



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Michele McGinty

posted July 5, 2008 at 9:16 am


“In other words, what’s “left-wing propaganda” to Michele is what the rest of us call “reality.”
Thanks for playing!”
If you consider that movie reality, please go check yourself into the psych ward of your local hospital, you’re delusional.
No, thank you for playing.



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Michele McGinty

posted July 5, 2008 at 9:19 am


I have no idea why you’re bent on saying this movie isn’t anti-captialism. I never said it was. I said it was leftwing propaganda and then I explained in a comment that it was anti-corporation and clearly analogous to global warming.



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Karen Brown

posted July 5, 2008 at 3:38 pm


It isn’t anti-capitalism.
Last I checked, capitalism is about competition and supply and demand. And most prefer ‘lassez faire’ capitalism in which the government doesn’t interfere.
Are you now saying that ONE corporation that supplies everyone and everything and has entirely co-opted the government is ‘capitalism’?
Its like saying everything the ‘commies’ said about capitalism is right to say what this movie is portraying is capitalism.



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Moonshadow

posted January 4, 2009 at 8:49 pm


I said it was leftwing propaganda and … clearly analogous to global warming.
We got this movie for Christmas and I just watched it this afternoon with my husband. He doesn’t think it’s left-wing propaganda and he’s as conservative as they come.
Maybe it’s just me, but the biblical allusions were inspiring … and, apparently, the director is a Christian, so the allusions were intentional.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/interviews/andrewstanton.html
Yeah, great movie … it should win some sort of Oscar.



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