This has got to be one of the lamest diversionary tactics ever. We have a global environmental problem – nearly all of the scientists who are not being paid by oil companies agree on this. It could affect millions of people within years- and eventually all of us. The data is in, and the scientists are in as much agreement as scientists can come to.
And what is the right’s response….?…….wait for it…….
Al Gore lives in a big house and isn’t practicing what he preaches.
I am supposed to be shocked that a rich man has a different lifestyle than most of us do!
Oh, wait a minute while I catch my breath…..And,,,,,,some of his followers are imperfect as well.
A Christian asks me to be stunned at human imperfection. Do I really need to spell out how unsurprising this little nugget is? Anybody who hasn’t figured that out is clearly unable to see lightning and hear thunder.
The point is that we should live in more sustainable ways. And it will not wreck the economy- every time humanity improves its efficiency, the living standards have improved. Read history.

“Oh, wait a minute while I catch my breath…..And,,,,,,some of his followers are imperfect as well.
A Christian asks me to be stunned at human imperfection. Do I really need to spell out how unsurprising this little nugget is? Anybody who hasn’t figured that out is clearly unable to see lightning and hear thunder.”
And if we follow her logic, then those of us who came across hypocrites in the church should question the sincerity of the Gospel.
But take a look at the source for this diversion. It’s Michele Malkin, former fluffer for Bill O’Reilly.

“Oh, wait a minute while I catch my breath…..And,,,,,,some of his followers are imperfect as well.
A Christian asks me to be stunned at human imperfection. Do I really need to spell out how unsurprising this little nugget is? Anybody who hasn’t figured that out is clearly unable to see lightning and hear thunder.”
Sorry but if you people don’t even believe your own hype, why should we? That’s the point. Not that people are imperfect, I know that. I’m Reformed after all.
BTW, your dig at the scientists who don’t support the theory of global warming is inaccurate. There are plenty of scientist who don’t buy it but are being hounded by the fascists who hate dissent.

Gore is a good spokesman but the technology he proposes is all wrong.
Free Energy Forever
http://nlspropulsion.net/Documents/Free%20Power%20Forever.pdf

Al Gore lives in a big house and isn’t practicing what he preaches.
I am supposed to be shocked that a rich man has a different lifestyle than most of us do!
Posted by: RG | July 20, 2008 12:37 AM
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No LEFTY LIB retard, you are suppose to take notice that a man that claims to have environmental concerns to the point of preaching a natural apocalypse lives 100% contrary to his sermons. Ding bat! Next Please!

What a load of garbage. Grade-school-guy , who clearly attended the Ann Coulter school of rhetoric, once again proves that he has nothing to offer but catcalls. And Michele claims that , if somebody takes a cab, they don’t really believe that global climate change exists. That’s not a point, that’s a spin, and a silly one at best. What way could Al Gore live that would meet your ‘standards?’ Should he live in a modest house? Then he would be mocked for his pretensions of modesty. Look at the way Jimmy Carter was mocked by the right for his work for Habitat for Humanity. The right is expert at criticism- what a pity their expertise doesn’t extend to honest , competant governance.
The scientists who disagree on the problem are , for the most part, funded by the oil industry.There are exceptions, but not many. The Michael Crichton angle, that those scientists are all on the take, is the argument of the crank. Crichton is , in effect, arguing that he’s the only honest one . This reminds me of the people who argue that doctors don’t really want to cure cancer because they make more money this way- as if doctors don’t get cancer too.

The scientists who disagree on the problem are , for the most part, funded by the oil industry.There are exceptions, but not many.
Posted by: RG | July 20, 2008 12:44 PM
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You keep ranting this LEFTY LIB ranting point and have yet to provide any legitimate and objective documentation (and now LEFTY LIB, the rant of ANOTHER LEFTY LIB in a blog isn’t legitimate and objective documentation nor is someone else just saying this even if they call themselves a newsperson). But LEFTY LIB RG I doubt anyone is going to hold their breath waiting for you to provide documentation for such a LEFTY LIB RANTING claim. Next Please!

This “controversy” should be over. Gore bought an energy-inefficient mansion. He bought green-tags or something similar to offset that energy use while remodeling it for energy efficiency.
Someone is behind in her news.

Elizbeth,
Are you aware that Gore buys carbon credits from a company he is part owner of?
Living in Nashville, I am no longer surprised when news of Gore’s environmental double standard hits the airwaves. It isn’t really news.
If a conservative were to do as Spotted Al Bore was doing, the conservative would be considered a public disgrace by the drive-by media (said with appologies to any respectable drive-by mobsters).

“This “controversy” should be over. Gore bought an energy-inefficient mansion. He bought green-tags or something similar to offset that energy use while remodeling it for energy efficiency.”
What about his use of a private plane and his idling car?

“And Michele claims that , if somebody takes a cab, they don’t really believe that global climate change exists. That’s not a point, that’s a spin, and a silly one at best.”
You guys really don’t get this, do you? I’m being told by Al Gore, a portion of the scientific community and the MSM that we are destroying the planet and we need to do something about it and yet here, at an Al Gore speech where he talks about what we can do to save the planet and people arrive in taxis. If they really believed that cars contributed to the problem, why are they still driving in them?
We are destroying the planet, so what are you doing about it? If you still drive a car, then I guess it’s not as bad as you claim. If the scientists who are all crying, “The earth is warming! The earth is warming! We have to do something!” are still driving cars, then I don’t buy it. When you all stop driving cars and taking planes and ride bikes instead, then I might listen.
This is not spin, this is me telling you that I’m not doing anything different until all of ya’ll do it first. And I’m not seeing it. Al Gore is still driving around in gas burning cars, he flies carbon spewing planes and he has a huge house. At 60 amps, I’ll never catch up to his usage. So, I’m more of an environmentalist than this guy and I’m not even trying.

If this were satire, it would be less sad than it is.
First we have grade-school- guy. He seems to think that repeating LEFTY LIB, LEFTY LIB, LEFTY LIB, like some sort of a dim- witted parrot trained by Ann Coulter, amounts to a cogent argument. Tedious. Just like the argument after it , that conservatives get treated so badly by the media that, for the most part, they own.
Then Michele chimes in with the ‘everybody else has to do it first , or I’m not…’ argument.
For goodness sakes, as grandma would have said, go read something.This is an important subject. There are lots of books about the subject. Try to read ones by people you disagree with. Not just some rightie hack work- I have read a lot of the right wing opinions, you can read some that you disagree with too. Don’t ask me to do your homework, kids.

Wow. At lease Al G is trying to do something positive for this world and our kid’s future. Meanwhile, there are others who use their energy to criticize and belittle him rather than contribute to the common good – all this as our planet’s polar icecap disintegrates (did you know that it is likely that for the first time in recorded human history there will be no polar ice cap by the end of the summer?) Such ignorance will surely be the cause of our ultimate demise. Thanks for your help.

By the way… what exactly do you gain from your criticism, other than a cheap rush of self-righteous indignation? How does your criticism benefit the human family? If we were to act on Al G’s prophecies and then discover he was “wrong,” what would the result be? We would still have made the world a better, cleaner, safer place for us and our children. We win, our children win. If we were to act on Al G’s prophecies and then discover he was “right,” what would the result be? We would have literally saved ourselves and our children from self-destruction. We win, our children win. Call me crazy – or liberal – but this sounds pretty much like a no-brainer.

“No LEFTY LIB retard, you are suppose to take notice that a man that claims to have environmental concerns to the point of preaching a natural apocalypse lives 100% contrary to his sermons. Ding bat! Next Please!”
Aren’t there supposed to be rules of conduct for these forums?

Wow. At lease Al G is trying to do something positive for this world and our kid’s future.
Posted by: Glen S | July 21, 2008 9:09 AM
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Sorry GLEN but simply because someone is TRYING to do something doesn’t make it VALID or prescriptive for everyone. Apparently simply because someone is trying something, to you, that automatically makes it valid and properly established as a legitimate remedy to a problem.
DUH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a clue friend. Many people try MANY THINGS in error, AL GORE is one of them. Next Please!

http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/documentaries/Global_Warming_-_Doomsday_Called_Off/32989/part+1.html?aid=15951
Very good series here on the MYTH of GLOBAL WARMINGISM.

“you people don’t even believe your own hype”
who says we don’t believe the science? you?
“There are plenty of scientist who don’t buy it but are being hounded by the fascists who hate dissent.”
show us this vast community of scientists who don’t buy it. and your labeling of the scientific community as “fascists” says a lot about what you think of the scientists that you disagree with. you’ve already stated in the past that you’re no scientist, and know very little on the subject. apparently the libaughs and coulters and malkins have educated you on the “science.” i’ve seen a huge long list of “scientists” who argued against global climate change. it has long since been debunked.
“You guys really don’t get this, do you? I’m being told by Al Gore, a portion of the scientific community and the MSM that we are destroying the planet and we need to do something about it and yet here, at an Al Gore speech where he talks about what we can do to save the planet and people arrive in taxis. If they really believed that cars contributed to the problem, why are they still driving in them?”
yeah, we get it. you’re being selfish. and you don’t fully understand the issue and solutions.
“We are destroying the planet, so what are you doing about it? If you still drive a car, then I guess it’s not as bad as you claim. If the scientists who are all crying, “The earth is warming! The earth is warming! We have to do something!” are still driving cars, then I don’t buy it. When you all stop driving cars and taking planes and ride bikes instead, then I might listen.”
oh, we all have to live in caves to make you happy? see, this is the problem of the lack of information. you don’t have to live in the dark or without modern conveniences. just live smarter. stop stripping the planet of its forests. conserve energy. use clean energy if and whenever possible.
“This is not spin, this is me telling you that I’m not doing anything different until all of ya’ll do it first. And I’m not seeing it. Al Gore is still driving around in gas burning cars, he flies carbon spewing planes and he has a huge house. At 60 amps, I’ll never catch up to his usage. So, I’m more of an environmentalist than this guy and I’m not even trying.”
ok, al gore installed a geothermal heating/cooling unit in his house. you’re turn. al gore pays his electric utility provider extra to subsidize wind and solar electricity. your turn. al gore has made improvements to his home to conserve what energy it does use. your turn. al gore buys carbon offsets to balance his carbon footprint (in layman’s words, he invests money in technologies that reduce the amount of carbon in the air by the same amount that he creates, such as planting trees, or green energies). your turn. just because he burns carbon fuels in his car doesn’t mean that they stay in the air. that’s what offsets are all about.

al gore buys carbon offsets to balance his carbon footprint
Posted by: anonymous reincarnate | July 22, 2008 2:24 AM
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…….you sucker LEFTY LIBS. You even fall for this? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha….and of course you forgot what his investment company sells. Carbon credits. The very carbon credits he buys to offset his hypocrisy. Yes, he busy them from…himself….Hahahahahahahahaha!
Al Gore defends his extraordinary personal energy usage by telling critics he maintains a “carbon neutral” lifestyle by buying “carbon offsets,” but the company that receives his payments turns out to be partly owned and chaired by the former vice president himself.
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http://www.generationim.com/
http://www.generationim.com/media/pdf-generation-final-launch-release-08-11-04.pdf
“Al Gore, formerly Vice President of the United States and author of the critically acclaimed book,“Earth in the Balance” is Chairman of Generation.”
From their own website, yes THE OWL is scamming you. But yes, you LEFTY LIBS are so desperate to believe in Ghosts and Goblins that you will look the other way when the obvious smacks you upside the head.
Next please!

the fakeumentary, “doomsday called off” is outdated and uses flawed science. most of the scientists that the fakeumentary cites all have monetary ties (that is, PAID FOR) by exxon mobile.
let’s discuss the experts that they trot out, follow the money, look at their credentials and science:
david legates – “fluffed” his resume by misrepresenting himself as a “state climatologist” when he had no affiliation with the state. the state governor asked legates to stop misrepresenting himself. legates is listed as an “expert” for the marshall institute (the marshall institute is a think tank that promotes right-wing agendas like reagan’s star wars, climate change inaction, and bioterrorism defense and has received $700,000 in grants from exxon mobile and $5,757,803 from conservative foundations like the john olin, lynde and harry bradley, castle rock (coors), earhart, sarah scaife, and the carthage foundations). legates was considered an “adjunct scholar” for the national center for policy alternatives, which “will write op-eds” according to philip morris (and they would know, because they hired ncpa to confuse the science regarding the dangers of tobacco). ncpa received $465,900 from exxon. the heartland institute think tank who lists legates as a “global climate expert” has received over $791,000 from exxon. the independent institute think tank who lists him as a “research fellow” received $70,000 from exxon and other grants from philip morris. dr. michael maccracken, chief scientist for climate programs at the climate institute points out the junk science by legates.
jorgen steffensen – among other things, studies climate fingerprints trapped in the ice from greenland. he does not deny global warming. he does question if it can be proved to be caused by man and whether we should do something about the carbon in the atmosphere. he is recorded as saying, “to filter out whether this present warming is a natural variation or is man made — that is impossible. but if there is a very strong correlation between our emissions and the heating we see today, so do we dare not to?”
willie soon – “chief science advisor” at the frontiers of freedom’s center for science and public policy which was created with $100,000 seed money from exxon. for the heartland institute, published a short article in capitalism magazine (not a peer journal) arguing against global climate change. also for the heartland institute, soon published another article titled “eat more fish!” that argued against the science that the mercury found in fish from the fallout of burning coal is harmful. see the patterns? together with sallie balliunas, co-wrote a paper published by climate research that challenged the accepted science of recent warming. republicans in washington d.c. loved their message. the paper was partly funded by the american petroleum institute. when prevented from printing a repudiation to the paper, several editors at climate research resigned. soon and baliunas were co-authors of the oregon petition that was printed in the style and format of the scientific journal, proceedings of the national academy of sciences which denounced the petition as deliberately deceiving. much of the half-truths in the petition have been disproved, and the petition has updated to remove those “problems.” the petition was originally bulk-mailed to tens of thousands of scientists around the country as an attempt to deceive the public into lobbying against the kyoto protocol. this petition is the most often referred “list” of climate deniers, though a very small portion of the signatories are actual scientists in the field of climatology. ties to the fringe group, oregon institute of science and medicine.
sallie baliunas – (see willie soon)
john christy – affiliated with competitive enterprise institute and independent institute, both funded by exxon.
nils-axel morner – an self-acclaimed expert on “dowsing,” in interesting science.
these ties from prominent deniers to exxon have been questioned by other scientists at the union of concerned scientists:

“A new report from the Union of Concerned Scientists offers the most comprehensive documentation to date of how ExxonMobil has adopted the tobacco industry’s disinformation tactics, as well as some of the same organizations and personnel, to cloud the scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the issue. According to the report, ExxonMobil has funneled nearly $16 million between 1998 and 2005 to a network of 43 advocacy organizations that seek to confuse the public on global warming science.”

these are the same tactics that were used by religious deniers of evolution, proponents of “intelligent design” to confuse the general public into believing that there’s a large controversy among scientists. even with the national exposure of their questionable science, questionable credentials and financial ties to energy companies and conservative policy “think tanks” some people (guy) still believe them over credible, independent scientists in the m
Foes of global warming theory have energy ties

The study also illustrates a strategy adopted by some energy companies in the late 1980s to attack the credibility of climate science, said John Topping, president of the Climate Institute and a former Republican congressional staffer who founded the institute in 1986. By relying on the news media’s inclination to include both sides of a story, the industries were able to create the impression that scientists were deeply divided over climate change, Topping said. “It was all very shrewdly done,” he said.

The Secret Campaign of President Bush’s Administration To Deny Global Warming

“The consequences of climate change are very real and very negative, but Cheney is not convinced of that. He believes – not quite as much as Senator James Inhofe, that this is a ‘hoax’ – but that the Earth has been changing since it was formed and to say that climate change is caused by humans is incorrect.” (christine todd whitman, bush’s chief of the epa)
follow the science rebuttals and the stripping of junk science and the financial influence by exxon in the following links. there’s lots of science, and many links to peer-reviewed science publications:
http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/
http://www.desmogblog.com/
http://www.sourcewatch.org/
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/

david legates – “fluffed” his resume by misrepresenting himself as a “state climatologist” when he had no affiliation with the state. the state governor asked legates to stop misrepresenting himself. legates is listed as an “expert” for the marshall institute (the marshall institute is a think tank that promotes right-wing agendas like reagan’s star wars, climate change inaction, and bioterrorism defense and has received $700,000 in grants from exxon mobile and $5,757,803 from conservative foundations like the john olin, lynde and harry bradley, castle rock (coors), earhart, sarah scaife, and the carthage foundations). legates was considered an “adjunct scholar” for the national center for policy alternatives, which “will write op-eds” according to philip morris (and they would know, because they hired ncpa to confuse the science regarding the dangers of tobacco). ncpa received $465,900 from exxon. the heartland institute think tank who lists legates as a “global climate expert” has received over $791,000 from exxon. the independent institute think tank who lists him as a “research fellow” received $70,000 from exxon and other grants from philip morris. dr. michael maccracken, chief scientist for climate programs at the climate institute points out the junk science by legates.

jorgen steffensen – among other things, studies climate fingerprints trapped in the ice from greenland. he does not deny global warming. he does question if it can be proved to be caused by man and whether we should do something about the carbon in the atmosphere. he is recorded as saying, “to filter out whether this present warming is a natural variation or is man made — that is impossible. but if there is a very strong correlation between our emissions and the heating we see today, so do we dare not to?”

willie soon – “chief science advisor” at the frontiers of freedom’s center for science and public policy which was created with $100,000 seed money from exxon. for the heartland institute, published a short article in capitalism magazine (not a peer journal) arguing against global climate change. also for the heartland institute, soon published another article titled “eat more fish!” that argued against the science that the mercury found in fish from the fallout of burning coal is harmful. see the patterns? together with sallie balliunas, co-wrote a paper published by climate research that challenged the accepted science of recent warming. republicans in washington d.c. loved their message. the paper was partly funded by the american petroleum institute. when prevented from printing a repudiation to the paper, several editors at climate research resigned. soon and baliunas were co-authors of the oregon petition that was printed in the style and format of the scientific journal, proceedings of the national academy of sciences which denounced the petition as deliberately deceiving. much of the half-truths in the petition have been disproved, and the petition has updated to remove those “problems.” the petition was originally bulk-mailed to tens of thousands of scientists around the country as an attempt to deceive the public into lobbying against the kyoto protocol. this petition is the most often referred “list” of climate deniers, though a very small portion of the signatories are actual scientists in the field of climatology. ties to the fringe group, oregon institute of science and medicine.

sallie baliunas – (see willie soon)
john christy – affiliated with competitive enterprise institute and independent institute, both funded by exxon.
nils-axel morner – an self-acclaimed expert on “dowsing,” in interesting science.
these ties from prominent deniers to exxon have been questioned by other scientists at the union of concerned scientists:

“A new report from the Union of Concerned Scientists offers the most comprehensive documentation to date of how ExxonMobil has adopted the tobacco industry’s disinformation tactics, as well as some of the same organizations and personnel, to cloud the scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the issue. According to the report, ExxonMobil has funneled nearly $16 million between 1998 and 2005 to a network of 43 advocacy organizations that seek to confuse the public on global warming science.”

these are the same tactics that were used by religious deniers of evolution, proponents of “intelligent design” to confuse the general public into believing that there’s a large controversy among scientists. even with the national exposure of their questionable science, questionable credentials and financial ties to energy companies and conservative policy “think tanks” some people (guy) still believe them over credible, independent scientists in the m
Foes of global warming theory have energy ties

The study also illustrates a strategy adopted by some energy companies in the late 1980s to attack the credibility of climate science, said John Topping, president of the Climate Institute and a former Republican congressional staffer who founded the institute in 1986. By relying on the news media’s inclination to include both sides of a story, the industries were able to create the impression that scientists were deeply divided over climate change, Topping said. “It was all very shrewdly done,” he said.

The Secret Campaign of President Bush’s Administration To Deny Global Warming

“The consequences of climate change are very real and very negative, but Cheney is not convinced of that. He believes – not quite as much as Senator James Inhofe, that this is a ‘hoax’ – but that the Earth has been changing since it was formed and to say that climate change is caused by humans is incorrect.” (christine todd whitman, bush’s chief of the epa)
follow the science rebuttals and the stripping of junk science and the financial influence by exxon in the following links. there’s lots of science, and many links to peer-reviewed science publications:
http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/
http://www.desmogblog.com/
http://www.sourcewatch.org/
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/

these ties from prominent deniers to exxon have been questioned by other scientists at the union of concerned scientists:

“A new report from the Union of Concerned Scientists offers the most comprehensive documentation to date of how ExxonMobil has adopted the tobacco industry’s disinformation tactics, as well as some of the same organizations and personnel, to cloud the scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the issue. According to the report, ExxonMobil has funneled nearly $16 million between 1998 and 2005 to a network of 43 advocacy organizations that seek to confuse the public on global warming science.”

these are the same tactics that were used by religious deniers of evolution, proponents of “intelligent design” to confuse the general public into believing that there’s a large controversy among scientists. even with the national exposure of their questionable science, questionable credentials and financial ties to energy companies and conservative policy “think tanks” some people (guy) still believe them over credible, independent scientists in the m
Foes of global warming theory have energy ties

The study also illustrates a strategy adopted by some energy companies in the late 1980s to attack the credibility of climate science, said John Topping, president of the Climate Institute and a former Republican congressional staffer who founded the institute in 1986. By relying on the news media’s inclination to include both sides of a story, the industries were able to create the impression that scientists were deeply divided over climate change, Topping said. “It was all very shrewdly done,” he said.

“From their own website, yes THE OWL is scamming you. But yes, you LEFTY LIBS are so desperate to believe in Ghosts and Goblins that you will look the other way when the obvious smacks you upside the head.”

from their own website… not hiding anything of what they do. they invest in companies with sustainable energy research and interests, building a foundation for sustainable, carbon neutral energy. the company is no scam. he has never asked any of us to invest in his company. if you think otherwise, i urge you to have the fbi and justice department look into it. good luck, guy.
and again, if i made produced cars i would buy a car from my own company. so what? this does nothing to disprove the science, nor to pin the label of hypocrite on gore. you deniers are so illiterate in science that you cling to anything in a desperate attempt to discredit it. you’ve yet to prove anything other than gore is chairman of an investment company that invests in green technologies. good job! try again, guy.
in the absence of regulations and mandatory carbon emission caps and reduction, entrepreneurs are filling the gap and doing something on their own. it’s not perfect, as most emerging markets aren’t. so be it. that’s capitalism for you.
there are 2 camps, co2 puritans and co2 pragmatists. being a co2 puritan is difficult and is what michele wants everyone to be before she’ll even listen to the experts on the issue. being a co2 pragmatist is easier, but we are the ones who catch flack from the ill-informed deniers like michele and guy. we are pragmatic. we know there’s a problem and make improvements to reduce our carbon emissions, but we can’t live in the dark, without cars, or without computers as a practical matter. so we do what we can to help make up for that (which deniers label as “hypocrisy”). we do this by investing time or money in clean energy technologies, reforestation projects, carbon-reduction automobiles, et cetera.