As a matter of curiosity, Michelle, do you happen to have a handgun in your home?

“As a matter of curiosity, Michelle, do you happen to have a handgun in your home?”
Sorry, I won’t answer that question. My support isn’t just for my right to own a handgun but for the right of the individual to do so to protect themselves and their family. But my main reason to support the 2nd amendment is because I believe that we have to protect all of our rights. If they take away this right, they’ll start taking away others. I want to protect my freedom to worship God as long as I can and will engage in the battle for free speech and freedom to own weapons of our choice to protect it.

“But my main reason to support the 2nd amendment is because I believe that we have to protect all of our rights. If they take away this right, they’ll start taking away others. I want to protect my freedom to worship God as long as I can and will engage in the battle for free speech and freedom to own weapons of our choice to protect it.”
That is bizarre logic.

Gee, Michele. Didn’t you just post, a few articles down, that you thought McCain would be better because he could move Left in order to enact bipartisan bills, and that you thought Obama couldn’t do that?
And here is a criticism because Obama DID, as you view it, move right.
So, which one is it?

Whom would Jesus shoot?

Michele,
As saith the Bard so well,
Me thinks thou does’t protest too much.
I am starting to think that all this attention poured out over Obama is actually beginning to mask some dark, hidden affection. Every move he makes, every position he takes is worthy of your attention and comment. It does seem he is trying to do the things you wish McCain had thought of or would consider. And he is speaking in religious terms, something McCain does not attempt (to his credit). All of this negativity is making me go, “hmmmmm”. It is getting to the point that you are seeming more like an Obama stalker.
By the way, I have never trusted kids whose parents posted their good grades on the refirgerator. I think it is swell you did well in school. The rest of us with middling minds and matching marks will simply continue to keep our accomplishments under a bushel basket.

His presidency will be a lot like Clinton’s. Propelled into office by slick personal charisma combined with a luckily timed, temporary downturn in the economy. Platform dictated by the polls during the election, he’ll attempt to change course once elected and try to implement some of his socialist, meddling programs. Voters, through their representatives, will reject these initiatives because of the much higher taxes required. Bizarrely, the man himself will be held blameless for being ineffective, and his smile will get him a second term. By the end of that, another terrorist attack, facilitated by his ineptness on defense, will propel a Republican into the house. It’s a shame we can’t just skip the whole predictable episode.

Actually, the only predictable thing is nonsense like I’m seeing here. Once again , the GOP faithful prove that they have nothing left but snark.
Obama was never as leftist as the right or left painted him. Am I the only one who read his books and could see that? It seemed pretty obvious to me.
And the required snark here really is lame beyond belief. Obama wants to take your guns away? Got any evidence of that at all? And won’t defend you against attacks? Like Bush did? Heard of 9-11? Bush let OBL get away at Tora Bora, and disbands the group going after him, and you have the nerve to even try this level of silliness?
Did it hurt when they removed your sense of shame?

The GOP have to do this disinformation campaign in order to have a ghost of a chance to get their guy elected. Heck, even their own Congressional members don’t want McCain elected.
http://www.sunherald.com/newsupdates/story/660742.html
Thad Chochran, Republican Senator from Mississippi: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.”
This is the person that the GOP has decided should carry their banner in this fall’s election. They had to do a character assassination on John Kerry to get Bush elected. What kind of assassination might they resort to in order to get McCain elected?

“Obama was never as leftist as the right or left painted him. Am I the only one who read his books”
Oh, yeah, his books are TOTALLY a sincere expression of his truest beleifs and not AT ALL designed to further his political career. Thanks for clearing that up.
Forget his books, look at his voting record.

Michele,
As saith the Bard so well,
Me thinks thou does’t protest too much.
I am starting to think that all this attention poured out over Obama is actually beginning to mask some dark, hidden affection.
Posted by: jestrfyl | July 2, 2008 11:40 AM
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In typical lib fashion, if you can project onto someone’s words some sinister or nafarious motive you don’t have to deal with the content of their case and can simply play finger point at your imagined devil.

Actually, according to the government vote tracking site, Obama and McCain have virtually identical records regarding partisan voting habits. But it is career wide, and McCain’s record has changed pretty dramatically in the last few years, and not toward being bipartisan. About the time his voting record became identical with President Bush. Both are listed as ‘rank and file’ members of their party.
So, McCain is no more likely to cross the aisle to work with the other party, and possibly quite a bit less.
And before its noted, yes, he missed quite a few votes, but there’s a graph as to when, and that started (big surprise) during election season. McCain has missed quite a few during that period too. Obama’s voting record was actually pretty exemplary prior to the campaigning. Can’t quite say the same for McCain.
So, absenteeism during campaign season is a wash between the two.

Sorry to belabor a point, but as I’ve said frequently on this blog, I see no reason why anyone should pay the slightest bit of attention to the political opinions of people who voted twice for George W. Bush.
They (you) have displayed an utter lack of discernment, insight, common sense or political savvy. Face it: you are bankrupt. No ideas, no vision, no commitment to getting the job done–just sniping, smearing, and snark, as evidenced again and again on this site.
If you can’t humble yourselves and repent in the face of what your allegiances and attitudes have done to this once great country, you might at least have the good grace to keep quiet and get out of the way while the people who actually give a damn about America try to get us out of the ditch your drunk-driving Jesus-jive talkin’ leader drove us into.

no-name conservatard, in typical con fashion, you offer nothing of worth to this conversation. unlike you, jestrfyl participates often on this blog, with comments that involve thought when the post actually has something worth discussing, which is why they’re not spineless and nameless hit and run comments like yours.
“His presidency will be a lot like Clinton’s. Propelled into office by slick personal charisma combined with a luckily timed, temporary downturn in the economy. Platform dictated by the polls during the election, he’ll attempt to change course once elected and try to implement some of his socialist, meddling programs. Voters, through their representatives, will reject these initiatives because of the much higher taxes required. Bizarrely, the man himself will be held blameless for being ineffective, and his smile will get him a second term. By the end of that, another terrorist attack, facilitated by his ineptness on defense, will propel a Republican into the house. It’s a shame we can’t just skip the whole predictable episode.”
zz, my powers of premonition are not as good as yours. but here’ goes:
his presidency will be no more effective than his father’s. propelled into office by his bumpkin evangelical speak combined with a luckily timed slew of homophobic anti-gay marriage campaigns, a healthy economy and budget surplus. platform dictated by a minority of religious fundamentalists and conservative warmongers, he’ll refuse to change course on anything even when the those he serves demand it. voters, through the power of elections, will reject this ideologue because he bankrupts the country by cutting taxes for the uber-rich and sticking it to the middle class. bizarrely, the boy himself will not be held unaccountable for failing to protect the country against the worst terrorist attack on our soil and will use constant fearmongering and voter disenfranchisement schemes to win him a second term. by the end of that, the economy tanking, mired in war in 2 countries after 5 years, our borders the likeness of swiss cheese, facilitated by his ineptness at… well, everything, will propel a democrat into the white house. it’s a travesty that we had to endure through that entire predictable episode.
oh, oops, that’s a recap of the past. told you i wasn’t a great soothsayer.

“I am starting to think that all this attention poured out over Obama is actually beginning to mask some dark, hidden affection. ”
Actually, I do have some affection for him. I totally don’t buy the act and even more so now that he moving to the right (i.e. lying about his positions) but I can’t hate the guy. I learned that hating the leaders of this country do you no good. I didn’t learn that lesson during Clinton’s presidency but Bush’s. The left’s hatred of Bush has taught me that if the president is making me crazy with his idiotic policies, I might want to step back and remember that God is still in control. It makes it a lot easier to deal with the imperfects of our leaders to remember that fact.

“Gee, Michele. Didn’t you just post, a few articles down, that you thought McCain would be better because he could move Left in order to enact bipartisan bills, and that you thought Obama couldn’t do that?”
Where did I say “better?”

“Sorry to belabor a point, but as I’ve said frequently on this blog, I see no reason why anyone should pay the slightest bit of attention to the political opinions of people who voted twice for George W. Bush.”
Yes, if I don’t agree that Bush hasn’t ruined this country, then I have no right to speak in public, huh? We should all just shut up and let you guys have all the media including the blogosphere, right? Isn’t that what you guys love to do? Shut down dissent. That’s what Pelosi’s doing with the fairness doctrine. If we have an outlet, you want to shut it down. Typical.
But you see on this blog, I allow dissent. You guys rip me all the time, call me ignorant, stupid, uninformed, whatever but I don’t delete the comments. You link to articles with competing points of view and a lot of times I give you the last word on the subject because I believe in the value of dialog. And I really don’t care if you don’t believe me.

Actually, what you said was…
“McCain has the ability to move left to attract Democrats, he’ll be able to work with Congress.”
Now, given the post was addressing Obama, I would guess you were saying ‘as compared to Obama, who would not’. Which would say McCain is better at that.
Of course, I suppose you could be simply making a totally unrelated comment during the thread and it has no bearing on what Obama can or cannot do, or contrasting McCain with it. Just totally off the cuff. Or noting something that you think Obama does equally well, or even better than McCain.
Was that the gist of it?

“Actually, what you said was…
“McCain has the ability to move left to attract Democrats, he’ll be able to work with Congress.”
Now, given the post was addressing Obama, I would guess you were saying ‘as compared to Obama, who would not’. Which would say McCain is better at that.
Of course, I suppose you could be simply making a totally unrelated comment during the thread and it has no bearing on what Obama can or cannot do, or contrasting McCain with it. Just totally off the cuff. Or noting something that you think Obama does equally well, or even better than McCain.
Was that the gist of it? ”
Not even close, babe.
I was actually agreeing with anonymous reincarnate for a change who mentioned McCain. She brought him up, I didn’t.

BTW, nowhere does it say “better,” does it?

Then, as I posted, your comment had no bearing on the thread, which was about Obama.
You decided to bring up McCain with no connection to the subject, and just happened to make an off-hand comment about McCain being able to do something. Because, apparently, he can do so few things that anything he can do is newsworthy.
Today I realized, McCain can TIE HIS SHOES. He can sponsor Bipartisan bills!
He doesn’t do it better, worse, or even as opposed to the other candidate. Just something he is able to do!
Wow, that was a news flash.

“I was actually agreeing with anonymous reincarnate for a change who mentioned McCain. She brought him up, I didn’t.”
i did no such thing, and “She” is a “He.” you really don’t pay attention, to you?