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When I was at HersheyPark last week, I had in mind your (and other people's) seasonal posts on modest dress aimed at girls and women.

I noted quite an eclectic array of long skirts and headdresses on female, presumably Christian, Park patrons. I say "eclectic" because most of it seemed to me entirely made-up, not as belonging to a recognized religious sect.

I absolutely like the religious traditions indigenous to eastern PA and western NJ. And yes, I even find those dresses entirely precious ... 'though I couldn't wear them.

I think it's awful, but I recently read Carolyn Jessop's wonderful, chilling book, "Escape," so I may be biased. However, Halloween is coming.

And maybe neither is that far from the Muslim view.

Where's my bathing suit? It's hotter than you-know-what.

How sensible of you, Michele. Perhaps your belief that some values and behaviors are based on a subjective standard of current norms and that "any . . . exhortation found in the Bible is based on the wisdom of the Christian to know what to do based on the word of God" will help you understand why, when I look at two people who obviously love each other, who wish to pledge lifelong fidelity and mutual support "for better or for worse," I cannot condemn them or their desire to be united simply because they happen to be members of the same sex.* Wisdom tells me to do otherwise, just as it tells you in regard to your daughter's clothing, and like you, I have wrestled with the pertinent verses in scripture on the subject. That's also why I don't cover my head in church, and I certainly don't remain silent, and why I am only too happy to listen to a woman in the pulpit and to receive Holy Communion from a woman celebrating the Eucharist. And it is also why you will never catch me in a prairie dress or a burka.

(For people who are only attracted to members of the same sex by virtue of their God-given biological wiring, this is very important.)

St. Clement knew which side of his bread the butter was on. Where would the Christian church be without women?

From the Theotokos (God-bearer) to the first witnesses of the Resurrection to the virgin martyrs and the great teachers (Teresa of Avila, to name but one), abbesses and mystics like Julian of Norwich, who, out of intimate knowledge of Christ's sacrifice and tender love, called him "our mother"; to valiant Jeanne d'Arc who led an army and endured the fire rather than recant; to the millions whose names are known only to God who toiled and tended, who nursed and exhorted and encouraged and served, who spoke truth to power, who faced danger and death for the sake of the Gospel, often with little thanks or recognition, regarded as of little account, abused and despised, reviled and belittled and condescended to and overlooked, even by their brethren in Christ.

No, God was not ashamed to make women.

"How sensible of you, Michele. Perhaps your belief that some values and behaviors are based on a subjective standard of current norms and that "any . . . exhortation found in the Bible is based on the wisdom of the Christian to know what to do based on the word of God" will help you understand why, when I look at two people who obviously love each other, who wish to pledge lifelong fidelity and mutual support "for better or for worse,"I cannot condemn them or their desire to be united simply because they happen to be members of the same sex.*"

But as to same sex marriages, I understand why you don't want to condemn them but God has stated in his word his position:
ESV Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
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