No, not in an Islamic nation but in the UK, of course. So, they don't have freedom of speech, they don't have the right to bear arms and now they appear to be sadly lacking freedom of religion:
"Making them pray to Allah, who isn't who they worship, is wrong and what got me is that they were told they were being disrespectful."This is pretty strange given the fact that their state religion is Christianity, somebody might want to tell this teacher that it you are going to force the children to pray to God it should be God and not Allah. And in a Christian state you would think that the teacher would understand that it's wrong for any children in the class who actually happened to be Christian to pray to a foreign god. It violates the first commandment:Another parent Karen Williams, 38, whose 12-year-old daughter is a classmate of the boys, said: "I am absolutely furious my daughter was made to take part in it and I don't find it acceptable.
"The teacher had gone into the class and made them watch a short film and then said 'we are now going out to pray to Allah'.
"Then two boys got detention and all the other children missed their refreshments' break."
She added: "Not only was it forced upon them, my daughter was told off for not doing it right.
"They'd never done it before and they were supposed to do it in another language."
Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me."
Thanking the Lord yet again that our founding fathers rebelled against England. They certainly knew what they were doing :-)
BTW, you know whats annoying about the reporting of this story, they don't have to reason why the boys wouldn't participate. Maybe they're atheists and don't want to participate in a religious ritual because it violated their beliefs. They could be Christian and doing it because they can't compromise their belief in their the one true God.
I doubt they were Muslim but wouldn't a Muslim have a problem with a nonbeliever leading their child in prayer?
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"Such is the problem when you have an authority figure imposing prayer upon a group. This is a perfect example of why we must never permit "moments of silence" or other Trojan Horses to invade our schools."
I wouldn't want my children praying to some "god" in school. Unless they are being lead by a Christian, why bother.
Surprised I agree that we shouldn't have prayer in school? :-)
"libs..." "twits..."
come on guy, you can do better than that. sticks and stones, and that jazz.
"Ah yes, from the illuminated and sophisticate EUROPEAN minds you libs love to worship...comes FASCISM. But no doubt you'll find some excuse for this practice your clamor about so eagerly when you dare find a Christian simply praying by themselves without coercion."
to find a christian who has found god without coercion is a blessing. you still pretend that liberals aren't christian? reality check, please.
i shouldn't have to remind you, guy, that the vast majority of americans are descendant of those illuminated and sophisticated EUROPEAN minds, as were our founding fathers. personally, i'm proud of my heritage. and for your information, fascism is a belief system which is not tied to an ethnicity or country of origin.
"And you poor little LIBS wonder why you rarely succeed? Because you can't even endure the petty arsenal of label. You poor little twits need to grow up. But hey, it's easier to focus on being called a "lib" than addressing the substance of an issue....typical lib....NEXT PLEASE!"
is that so? seems to me that clinton did some substantial things to improve this country as has the kennedy family. seems like our society is very liberal and we've clearly moved past the oppressive fundamentalist thinking. women vote. women work. people are free. the retirement safety net has held together so far. interracial marriage is common. same-sex marriage is becoming more so. for the greater part, our liberal religious freedom has nurtured a country that is very religious without a sectarian system being imposed.
labels don't offend me, not even your petty ones. do they offend you? obviously something has your panties in a twist. i'm certain that had you offered an issue of any substance (and coherence) it would have been addressed. maybe you'd like to try again.
"Surprised I agree that we shouldn't have prayer in school?"
yes, and pleasantly so. and i agree with your reasoning, too.
"If bussing is a form of car-pooling and the decision was due to budget, then who rides and who doesn't ought to depend on where they live."
moonshadow, i would think so, too.
to find a christian who has found god without coercion is a blessing. you still pretend that liberals aren't christian? reality check, please.
i shouldn't have to remind you, guy, that the vast majority of americans are descendant of those illuminated and sophisticated EUROPEAN minds, as were our founding fathers. personally, i'm proud of my heritage. and for your information, fascism is a belief system which is not tied to an ethnicity or country of origin.
Posted by: anonymous reincarnate | July 7, 2008 3:12 AM
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While I am proud of my Anglo ancestors in some respects, simply because I am decedents of their's doesn't make their political science today acceptable or admirable. Did it occur to you that they were LEAVING EUROPE for a reason? Did it occur to you the brighter ones left, leaving a mass of dullards? Maybe eh? But that would have taken a few extra seconds of thought for you to further your line of thinking and I realize you were to busy trying to conjure of a clever sounding reply that prescriptively examine your own ideas.
As for no LIBS being Christians. I haven't seen anyone make such a claim. So we are left with only one thing, YOU have ONCE AGAIN taken a LEFTY LIB play from your playbook and tiresomely used it again. You have accused someone of saying something they have never said in order to create a history that never occurred to which you can protest. You remind me of little Billy Maher of HBO who rails against a world he imagines exist in his mind but outside the door to his home can't be found anywhere.
"Did it occur to you that they were LEAVING EUROPE for a reason? Did it occur to you the brighter ones left, leaving a mass of dullards?"
not according to your gene pool. clearly enough dullards came across to plant your family tree on this fine soil. leave it to a pompous twit like you to claim that americans are smarter than europeans.
"As for no LIBS being Christians. I haven't seen anyone make such a claim."
yeah? we hear it all the time from cretins like you. because liberals tend to be on the front lines supporting the separation of church and state, we're accused of being non-christian or even anti-christian. even on this blog our faith is attacked. yes, you make the subliminal claim. you've been told this so often by your wingnut leaders that it's ingrained into your speech and you don't even know it. you treat liberals and christians as separate groups:
"But no doubt you'll find some excuse for this practice your clamor about so eagerly when you dare find a Christian simply praying by themselves without coercion."
well, guess what, pumpkin? i find christians "simply praying by themselves without coercion" every day. they're in my home. they're my friends. they're my family. they're my neighbors.
you remind me of rush limbaugh, strung out on drugs, no coherent thought process, all full of anger and whose only outlet is to assail people who disagree. the only difference is that i imagine you with a more manly voice, like that of ann coulter.
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