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Sunday July 6, 2008
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In some uses "finish" means to paint over or to polish. I think the nation - and the world has been finished with this for a long time. We have all taken a shellacking - glossy finish used to distract the viewer from imperfections in the basic product.
Posted by: jestrfyl | July 8, 2008 12:29 AM
Michele's link is typical of GOPers using figures that mislead. The facts show that Reagan and Bush ran up huge deficits, Clinton turned that around, and Bush brought us right back to the irresponsible borrow and spend policies that have run up the debt once again. No amount of spin can change that.
The debt will be $10 TRILLION when Bush leaves office. 80% of that was run up under the GOP.
There isn't anything you can say to spin your way out of that.
Posted by: RG | July 8, 2008 3:28 AM
To Price of Liberty: Please thank your family members serving in Iraq for their service. They have not been forgotten. Like millions of other Democrats, Independents and Republicans this year, I am working hard to elect the only candidate who has demonstrated a commitment to getting them out of this mess as soon as possible and who has said plainly that an American president should never send our troops to war unless there is absolutely no other choice. God bless them, strengthen them in their trials, keep them safe from all harm and bring them home.
Posted by: yelladawgNC | July 8, 2008 7:53 AM
Many people want the war to end. So do I. I think victory,however, is the way to end it and not a hasty redeployment to disguise what it really means - defeat.
Victory in Iraq is not a Jeffersonian democracy. It's putting a government and a people back on its feet after we've knocked it down and ensuring Iraq is not a threat to her neighbors. The latest benchmark reading (the whole 18 points plan) has 15 that are satisfactory. The Iraqis have responsded to the political and military plan, termed "The Surge," positively.
al Qaeda has suffered demoralizing defeat after defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Horn of Africa, and elsewhere. It's difficult to see it because if you study LIC, or counterinsurgency, or counterterrorism, you realize that the enemy always appears far stronger and more pervasive than they actually are. The mouse peeps from al Qaeda over the last year or more shows, to me, a group that's had the floor mopped with their morale.
So, we can quickly declare defeat and relive the end of the Vietnam War, with a resurgence of violence and recriminations against those that stepped up to help us. Or we can honor our commitment to the troops that have served and are serving and give them the means and the time to achieve victory. I feel we owe it to them to stick with them for a while longer. We've weathered tougher spots and now the clouds are breaking.
Now is not the time to blink.
Posted by: RockThrowingPeasant | July 8, 2008 11:27 AM
Hey, guess what? It's not up to us when we leave Iraq. At least not according to John McCain, who in 2004 told the Council of Foreign Relations that if the Iraqi government asked us to leave, we'd have to go:
"Well, if that scenario evolves than I think it's obvious that we would have to leave because -- if it was an elected government of Iraq, and we've been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government then I think we would have other challenges, but I don't see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people."
The Iraqis have now asked, in no uncertain terms. So when are we leaving, Senator McCain?
Posted by: yelladawgNC | July 9, 2008 2:52 PM
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