That’s cute … so rather than simply laying an egg, Obama goes the next step and hatches it?
Yeah, but ad should have come out in the spring, ’round Easter time.

Hmm.. taking the classic ‘this is your brain on drugs’, and going from a cracked egg to symbolize the destruction of drugs, to one of new life, in the form of one of the classic images, a baby chick.
Yeah, I’m so horribly insulted by that.

Very simply–I would think that the whole notion of hope would resonate fully with any believing Christian. That along with the idea of birth, transformation,new life…. Am I missing something?

Works for me, too.

Very simply–I would think that the whole notion of hope would resonate fully with any believing Christian. That along with the idea of birth, transformation,new life…. Am I missing something?
Posted by: myshkin2 | July 28, 2008 6:44 PM
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Hope in the context of Jesus Christ should resonate with the Christian since that is the object of the believers hope. So the “whole notion” of hope isn’t necessarily an obligatory positive for all believers particularly when it is removed from the context of Christ. Maybe it is maybe it isn’t, the context is what must be viewed. Here, The Obamanation is presented as a political hope. Now whether he is a political hope is debatable (I’m sure my view is clear) but simply because he and his supporters attempt to describe him as “hope”, a word used to describe Christ in relationship to man’s spiritual condition, doesn’t by default make it something that MUST resonate with a Christian.

It was about the commercial, Guy. You may not agree that ‘Obama makes people hope’ (though I imagine, being an emotional response, it is up to the people involved to decide what makes them feel hopeful or not).
But it is the validity and intent of the imagery that is at issue here. Brains being described as ‘chicks’ after referencing the well known ‘egg is your brain’ metaphor is not inherently insulting.
BTW, liked your post. No insults, no excessive use of all caps. But still made your point (which is different than mine, but I can still appreciate HOW it was made) very clearly.
*smile* Very nice.

BTW, liked your post. No insults, no excessive use of all caps. But still made your point (which is different than mine, but I can still appreciate HOW it was made) very clearly.
*smile* Very nice.
Posted by: Karen Brown | July 28, 2008 9:38 PM
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I always like all my posts, but thank you. Exactly HOW MANY CAPS is EXCESSIVE? Am I to be under the impression that SUBJECTIVITY RULES HERE? YOU know that is the LEFTY LIB way of THINKING, right? Never a clear LINE OF RIGHT AND WRONG, that’s the LEFTY LIB motto. But that’s the LEFTY LIB for ya. You must know Karen, (not a reference to you) that when DEALING WITH WOLVES and PIGS (metaphorically speaking) one doesn’t cast out their pearls but has to use a GUN and a CLUB. There isn’t any “nice” way of dealing with them. Hope you appreciate this response…heh heh.

Michele,
I don’t understand you. This was meant to be a parody. I’m not sure why you think its insulting.

I think it is charming and witty. But then, I have hope. And a sense of humor.

Guy, I used to use an occasional word in all caps and got severely castigated for it – by a right wing blogger well-known here on B’net, and by his comboxers. Apparently using all caps in more than one word per post is “excessive”. Better you should learn to use the html (or should that be HTML?) functioning to bold or italicize words you wish to emphasize.
Now to the point of this thread. No, Michele, I do not find the ad insulting. And I agree with you that it is not a parody. What I get from it is that for the past (almost) 8 years, Americans have hoped – but in vain, perhaps because hope and Bush are 180 degrees apart. (His modus operandi is and always has been fear, diametrically the opposite of hope.) That’s a pretty straightforward message.
The only parody is the use of the old “brain on drugs” scenario, which would have showed the ‘brain’ (egg) ‘scrambled’. INstead, here we get a chick that’s been hatched instead of a broken egg. (Hey, you – a “reformed” “chick” should appreciate that, no?) The hope Obama inspires is for new things (new opportunities, new chances to right disastrous wrongs, maybe even a new life for America).
Insulting? Not in the least. you’re reeeeally stretching here, but what else is new?

One word in a sentence. Two when they are a phrase. It is used to show emphasis as if you were speaking the sentence.
Basically, take the sentence you just wrote. Let me give an example..
Exactly HOW MANY CAPS is EXCESSIVE?
Now, take all the words in ‘all caps’, and when saying the sentence, say them louder than the others. You lose all sense of emphasis of a particular word, and it just becomes ‘shouting’.
Unless, of course, that is your intent.
Sorry for complimenting you. I’ll avoid that in the future.

“Sorry for complimenting you. I’ll avoid that in the future.”
From what I’ve read from Guy that shouldn’t be too difficult.;)

I’d rather be hopeful than yawn and I’d rather laugh than snicker. It’s not a good idea to have to feel superior to someone all the time.
GAT, are you a teenager? If not, I do not understand how you can respond to a sincere compliment in such a hostile manner. Remember that you are an ambassador for your beliefs and you do them little credit with the way you present them. Or does disrespect and rudeness come down on the “right” side of that bright line between right and wrong you say that you see so clearly? As I have noted before, it is always more persuasive to assume good intentions from anyone on the other side.
Karen, once again my compliments for your grace and patience as well as your wisdom.

One word in a sentence. Two when they are a phrase. It is used to show emphasis as if you were speaking the sentence.
Basically, take the sentence you just wrote. Let me give an example..
Exactly HOW MANY CAPS is EXCESSIVE?
Now, take all the words in ‘all caps’, and when saying the sentence, say them louder than the others. You lose all sense of emphasis of a particular word, and it just becomes ‘shouting’.
Unless, of course, that is your intent.
Sorry for complimenting you. I’ll avoid that in the future.
Posted by: Karen Brown | July 29, 2008 12:25 PM
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Who says it becomes shouting when MORE than ONE word is capitalized (and remember, I didn’t say ALL WORDS which I NEVER do, I asked about MORE than one word, NOT ALL WORDS). Why do you depend on someone else on how you receive something? Do you lack the capacity simply to filter what you don’t like or a style that isn’t pleasant to you?
As for complimenting me, well Karen that is your choice. You CONDITIONALLY based compliments aren’t my cup of tea. If someone, regardless whether they are an antagonist or friend, when excelling in something, if I believe it warrants a compliment from me they get it. But if pouting unless everything goes your way and you get to control someone’s style or else you won’t compliment is your cup of tea, well drink up, but not with me, hon. Next Please!
P.S. You really ought to invest in a sense of humor, it might enable you to recognize when someone engages in self-parody.

You’re assuming I wasn’t amused. My sense of humor tends to be a bit on the dry side. I find there’s a lot of a funny items in these posts.
But that’s a common problem with a text based forum, after all. You have no idea what I’m doing on the other side of your screen.
As for ‘conditional compliments’, I sincerely complimented the post. I noted what I viewed as good about it. If you feel somehow ‘controlled’ by someone’s compliments, I can’t help you about that. And I don’t recall any ‘pouting’. More like more humor (you might try an investment, yourself).
I figured you’d be pleased. You apparently don’t like compliments, (which it was, a sincere one), and so, I won’t be doing it again. I had not one expectation that my compliments, or lack thereof, would have the slightest bearing whatsoever on what you would, or would not post, or how you would do so.

Oh, and I didn’t say ‘ALL WORDS’. I said ‘all the words in all caps’, then suggested to try saying the sentence, making those words louder than the others. With several words, entire phrases emphasized, there’s really no emphasis at all. Emphasis is like spice. Works best, usually, when used sparingly.
In written communication, many all cap words, especially in a row, looks like someone is shouting.

Poor Karen. If you had an inkling of how ignorant and misconstrued your last post was you’d petition readers to ignore it. Do you actually humiliate yourself like this when engaged face to face with people? Are you actually this inept in understanding what someone has said and relating it to previous dialogue?
This is the second time you’ve done this. You’ve mixed earlier and later responses and concocted some crazy, loony, batty woman reaction.
If any of what you said made any sense I might respond but as it appears you have qualified for a new disorder I will call, “sequential dyslexia”. You’ve taken comments from two posts without any understanding of the sequence of them and posted some crazy rambling. Good grief!
By now I usually say, next please, but if the next one is as lost as you are regarding the ability to follow posts, I might find myself entangled with a 50 foot hair ball. But, because I am willing to take out the trash, Next Please!

“Poor Karen. If you had an inkling of how ignorant and misconstrued your last post was you’d petition readers to ignore it. Do you actually humiliate yourself like this when engaged face to face with people? Are you actually this inept in understanding what someone has said and relating it to previous dialogue?
This is the second time you’ve done this. You’ve mixed earlier and later responses and concocted some crazy, loony, batty woman reaction.”
Umm.. All I did was to respond to posts in reverse order. If that’s what it takes to have a ‘crazy, loony, batty woman reaction’, then you have an extremely low standard for insanity.
Sorry if you are so easily confused. The actual information in each one is pretty easy to understand, even if one didn’t have the original post at all, much less having to deal with the horrors of having to deal with them in reverse order.
Apparently, you were able to understand them well enough to know which post each one was referring to, or else you would have simply said you had no idea what I was talking about, or referring to.
I guess it couldn’t have been all that crazy.
The rest is just one prolonged insult. They can read it for themselves above.

Now, if it doesn’t disrupt the space-time continuum or twist reality beyond all comprehension, by referring to something that isn’t in the absolute last chronological post.. I would like to get back to the original topic.
I actually enjoyed the commercial, and see nothing insulting by the use of a ‘chick’ for the brain, when in the context of the old ‘this is your brain’ egg imagery.

kudos, karen.