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Obama attacks McCain for being "in the pocket of big oil"

Monday August 4, 2008

Categories: Politics

Just like Bush, taking contributions and giving them tax breaks but fails to mention that he voted for Bush's energy bill and has taken contributions as well:

"Now Big Oil's filling John McCain's campaign with $2 million in contributions," citing the Center for Responsive Politics. "Because instead of taxing their windfall profits to help drivers, McCain wants to give them another $4 billion in tax breaks."
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"Barack Obama's latest attack ads shows his celebrity is matched only by his hypocrisy," said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds. "After all it was Senator Obama, not John McCain, who voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill that was a sweetheart deal for oil companies. Also not mentioned is the $400,000 from big oil contributors that Barack Obama has already pocketed in this election."

The ad doesn't mention that the tax cut from 35% to 25% is intended for all corporations not just the oil companies. copor is intended for all corporations not just oil.

The ad also touts his windfall profits tax scheme:

"A windfall profits tax on big oil to give families a thousand-dollar rebate," an announcer in the ad says.
Unfortunately, Obama doesn't seem to have learned from recent history that a windfall profits tax leads to less domestic oil, an increase in our dependence on foreign oil and declining tax revenues.

BTW, the Michigan Republicans plan to go to Obama's Lansing event and hand out tire gauges engraved with "Obama's Energy Plan."

Update: BTW, technically no one actually takes money from oil companies because there's a law on the books that corporations can't donate money to campaigns. So, neither candidate has taken money from oil corporations but both candidates have taken money from those working in the oil industry.

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Update: Sorry about that, in the middle of blogging I switched the reference I was using and I have no idea what I did to cause the problem with the link. It's fixed now.

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RG
August 5, 2008 12:51 AM

McCain responded angrily to this charge, but his voice was muffled, due to the depth of the pocket he was speaking from.

anonymous reincarnate
August 5, 2008 1:25 AM

"BTW, the Michigan Republicans plan to go to Obama's Lansing event and hand out tire gauges engraved with 'Obama's Energy Plan.'"

i heard that they tried to distribute them to the dozen or so who turned out to the last mccain event but the gauges didn't come with instructions. in the end, they had to scrap the idea because all the old farts were sticking the things in their ears trying make mccain sound better.

as for the windfall profit tax, i doubt that you understand the tax, based on your "canned" republican, anti-carter, anti-tax, pro big-oil verbiage on the subject.

for example, the wpt of the 80s was not carter's idea, it was congress's and was a compromise with congress and carter who wanted to decontrol oil prices (government control that was imposed by nixon). fyi, the first windfall profit tax was actually proposed by president ford in 1974. however, carter supported the idea because he (and many others) feared that removing price controls would provide huge unearned profits to the oil companies - which has proven to be true.

REDUCED DOMESTIC PRODUCTION & INCREASED FOREIGN DEPENDENCE
you only tell half of the story. during enforcement of the wpt, domestic production dropped, which caused an increase in foreign oil dependence. however, that was offset by price decontrol on domestic oil (which is what carter wanted anyway). as reported by the congressional research service:

While a WPT made the U.S. more dependent on imported oil, decontrol and a WPT made the U.S. less dependent than controls without WPT.

in addition, our dependence on foreign oil was growing anyway. in 1986, the percentage of imports was 38%. in 1990, 2 years after it's repeal, that still rose to over 50%. today, after 20 years without wpt it's 60% and despite bush's increased tax breaks that started in 2005.

REVENUE
the wpt wasn't a true tax on windfall profits. it was an excise tax (the tax rate was never based on actual profits) which is partly why it had a negative effect on industry.

you're attributing declining tax revenues to wpt, when the wpt immediately underwent several amendments that reduced its own tax revenues. nice scapegoating tho. the decline in demand for oil and the increase in overseas production caused prices to drop, base prices were adjusted for inflation, and domestic production decreased - these three forces essentially eliminated any revenue to the government. still, the reality is that the wpt brought in $80 billion in revenues and not a decline in tax revenues. this is why reagan didn't move right away to repeal it - it kept the deficit down.

so, what do you propose for domestic oil companies that are riding the wave created by opec, raking in record profits for several years now, more interested in buying back their stock or in mergers (like exxon and mobile, bp and amoco) than in producing more (more production increases supply and reduces prices and profits)? they've really got us bent over the barrel and they want still more tax breaks, more taxpayer funded public lands to drill on.

a few answers:
1. develop alternate energies to compete with oil
2. promote conservation efforts
3. a true windfall profit tax (not excise tax) - the difference is crucial in how it might affect the industry
4. eliminate tax breaks for big oil companies

RG
August 5, 2008 1:43 PM

The real difference is the Democrats want to move to renewable energy. Wind, solar, tidal, geothermal, would all create good jobs, and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

Or, we can do what Republicans want us to do. Keep throwing more money at the oil companies and trust them to treat us really well.

Your choice.

anonymous reincarnate
August 5, 2008 8:19 PM

"The real difference is the Democrats want to move to renewable energy. Wind, solar, tidal, geothermal, would all create good jobs, and reduce our dependence on foreign oil."

what you're saying is that we can vote for change, or we can give our change to the oil companies? ;)

so far, i'm voting a full democratic ticket. i haven't seen a republican (that'll be on my ballot) who's on the right side of the energy issue yet.

anonymous reincarnate
August 5, 2008 11:47 PM

and the story unravels more:

Couple's $61,600 McCain donations raises questions

... deep pockets, indeed.

"Despite what appears to be a middle-class lifestyle, the couple has written $61,600 in checks to John McCain's presidential campaign and the Republican National Committee, most of it within days of McCain's decision to endorse offshore oil drilling."

coincidence in timing? one has to wonder where a middle-class couple comes up with $61,600 to give away, and wonder what they expect their roi will be.

"At a June fundraiser, the Rocchios joined top executives at Hess Corp. — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer John Hess, his wife, Susan, his mother, Norma Hess, and six other officials in giving a total of $313,500 to a joint McCain-RNC fundraising committee, Federal Election Commission records show."

yup. deep pockets. surely they're giving money for the good of their country and not to grow their family fortunes. right?

"The donations, first traced by Campaign Money Watch last week, were part of $1.2 million in oil industry contributions to McCain's Victory '08 Committee, 73 percent coming after McCain reversed his long-held opposition to offshore oil drilling. The non-partisan watchdog group said oil executives and their spouses from Colorado, Mississippi, Louisiana, California, Indiana, New Jersey and Florida also donated."

hmmmm. you don't say...

"Hess, among the nation's five biggest oil companies, conducts deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico as well as off the coasts of Europe, Africa and Asia."

there's the connection!

"The McCain campaign had no immediate comment."

i'm not surprised.

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