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Obama's non-specific speech

Friday August 29, 2008

Categories: Education, Politics
Last night as I was watching Obama's speech, I was struck by how non-specific he was when he was trying to be specific. He and his sycophants in the media may have thought he was specific laying out all that...
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priceofliberty
August 29, 2008 11:58 AM

Were you even listening ot the same speech???

Or where you expecting an Al Goreish snooze fest -- wait thats next week in St. Paul.

RG
August 29, 2008 12:04 PM

This is actually funny . A republican actually has the complete brass to berate Democrats on how their numbers don't add up!

A little history lesson for the ignorant. Bill Clinton came to power and increased taxes on the richest few. Republicans all said, without exception, that the economy would collapse. Chicken Little was left in the dust as they all raced to predict catastrophe.

We had the longest expansion in the nation's history. 22 million new jobs, huge Republican deficits became surpluses, the stock market soared.

Bush came to office. He cut taxes on the rich and corporations. Most large corporations paid no tax at all for years. All the Repubs said the economy would do better.

It didn't. 5 million jobs over 8 years. Record deficits again. National debt nearing $10 trillion- $8trillion of that run up under REpublican rule. But the corporations got record subsidies, and did very well. The average American family income dropped $2000 during those 8 years. As opposed to the gains of $7000 they saw under Clinton.

Now McSame wants to have even more tax cuts- the treasury still has a little money left to plunder for their rich pals- and corporate tax cuts as well. I guess paying no taxes wasn't good enough.
McSame says he wants to balance the budget- sometime.

And the Repubs have the absolute effrontery to talk about budget shortfalls?
They don't have a deficit of chutzpah, at least.

Pat Brennan
August 29, 2008 12:43 PM

What did you want him to do Michele in front of 84,000 people? Pull out the Ross Perot Charts and Stand? You really think that last nights acceptance speach was the time to dig down into specific details of how to undo the disasterous last 8 years?

You can't be serious. You really are missing what's happened to the economy, our stature in the world, and the dangerous exposure Bush/Cheney have created with our taxed military.

Let's hope to God that no one attacks us right now. We are more vulnerable than 1776 when we had to take on the British with no organized Army. You call yourself a Christian. Read up on the torture Bush and Cheney have been getting away with. They have destroyed all that has been accomplished since World War II for prisoner rights. They redefined the name of a prisoner so they could ignore the Geneva Convention! The Geneva Convention is supposed to protect our soldiers taken into custody. Of course Bush and Cheney don't have any kids in this war, do they?

Look at Georgia. Bush gave any World power justification for invading other countries. Anybody can spin, "Shock and Awe".

We are deeply exposed with our army fighting an illegal war. And you don't get it! You are so blinded by their BS. Unbelievable.

Reaganite in NYC
August 29, 2008 1:22 PM

OK, everyone, the subject has changed. Obama's speech is so ... yesterday!!

Don't know if you've watched the Sarah Palin speech in Dayton during the past hour .. but all I can say is .... "WWWWWOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW" !!

She really knocked it out of the park ... especially with her emphasis on reform and rooting-out corruption and wasteful spending. What a gutsy, gutsy person this young Governor from Alaska is.

Reaganite in NYC
August 29, 2008 1:34 PM

Hi Michelle,

By the way, I think your analysis of Obama's speech is "spot-on." Yes, all the so-called "specifics" in his speech raised more new questions than answered old questions. Thanks for fleshing out all the details.

Would strongly recommend Charles Krauthammer's column today, entitled, "The Perfect Stranger." It deals with the fact that (except for his wife) no one from Obama's pre-2004 past stood up to vouch for this guy at the Convention ... and how odd and truly exceptional this is for a party nominee for President.

The Dems. have truly nominated a self-created, Jay Gatsby-like candidate. Krauthammer did point out that the two people from Obama's early days in Chicago politics who MIGHT have vouched for him -- Reverend Wright and Professor Ayres -- aren't exactly the kind of folks the campaign wants to trot out. This guy remains a mystery ... and a great opportunity for some enterprising journalists out there (assuming they can get past the political goons in Obama's campaign that are keeping reporters away from old friends and family members of Obama -- which begs the question, "why does the Obama campaign feel the need to do this, and what are they hiding?").

anonymous reincarnate
August 29, 2008 5:33 PM

michele, you've shown again, and again, and again that you are incapable of reading answers to the same questions that you ask over and over. if you really cared to know, the information is available on his website. i've already provided links with independent comparative analysis of his tax plan and mccain's (and obama's is better for low- and middle-class and small business and for the country, by the way. you really should take the time to find out).

"Saying that he'd end corporate loopholes (yet another example of a vague promise to do something but nothing specific)"

hm. what are mccain's specifics on this? obama said that he would end tax subsidies to the big oil companies that are raking in record profits while we are suffering at the pump. how much more specific do you want? he will stop giving tax breaks to companies that outsource jobs. how much more specific do you want? he will revise the tax laws so that the 2/3 of all u.s. companies that are currently not paying taxes will. how much more specific do you want? he will not have 130,000 combat troops in iraq for another 100 years and work to make sure that the iraqis start spending their own oil profits to rebuild their own infrastructure, saving us billions. how much more specific do you want?

you still wrongly claim that existing alternate energies (like solar and wind power - come out west and see for yourself) are decades away. simply not true. but it would be 10 years before new drilling offshore would hit the market. that's what the experts say... not some politician spin. btw, it costs less to build a wind farm than it does to build a nuclear plant. and if someone flies a plane into it, it won't be the next chernobyl.

"How do we end our dependency on foreign oil in ten years when the technology isn't in place to do it?"

conservation can be done now. most of our imported oil is used for transportation. h-cell cars are already being manufactured and tested and can be on the market in 5 years. electric and hybrid cars are already in high demand, diesel cars can run biodiesel. efficiency standards can be raised. natural gas can be run in cars. better sources of ethanol are being considered.
"How does he do that? What? There's a line item veto? Does he actually think that he'll be able to cut through the red tape and bureaucracy and make an end run around Congress to cut governmental programs?"

you didn't seem to mind bush's constant end-runs around congress. please. maybe you don't understand how our government works: if he's elected, he will most likely also have a majority in both the house and senate - end-run not required. you should also know that there are many programs that don't originate in the congress, like the faith based initiatives, reading first program... and you pretend to be so informed.

"How do you ensure equal pay for equal skills and equal education?"

to start with, you fail to read what he stated so very plainly, "equal pay for an equal day's work" not equal skills, not equal education. don't you understand that simple statement? that means that if my co-worker has no college education and i have a ph.d., we are paid the same if we do the same job. if my coworker is a woman, or hispanic, or black, or gay, we get paid the same if we do the same job.

salaries should be open information. right now in many companies people don't know what their equal peers make, so there's no way for them to know that they are being discriminated against. the right-wing supreme court just shot down a a case won at the federal court by a woman who should have won her pay-discrimination case, except the right-wing justices said that she should have filed her lawsuit earlier (not that she wasn't discriminated against). problem with that is that she didn't know for many years because the company keeps salaries as secret as possible. obama could either make sure that wages aren't secret, or remove the corporate lever that the supreme court righties based their judgment on. democrats and obama will continue make sure that the starting point - minimum wage - keeps up with the cost of living.

btw, reaganite in nyc, krauthammer is an right-wing idiot who has no more credibility than limbaugh. not worth listening to (or reading). oooooooooh... "what are they hiding?" spare us your conspiracy theories. there have been plenty of people from his past years in the illinois state senate (including republicans) and the community who have given excellent reviews of obama. you just don't listen over the constant looping of wright videos.

palin offered no specifics. she was intimidated and quaking in her pumps. how will she stand up to our evil enemies?

rooting out corruption? she's corrupt. she admitted abusing her power to go after her ex-brother-in-law.

Diane Lee
August 30, 2008 1:04 AM

Hi Michele,

As an Australian, I won't pretend that I know about American politics - and I don't want to buy into any of the issues raised, because that would be rather silly and arrogant of me.

What I would like to say is that both Obama and yourself raise some interesting points about the equal pay issue.

Firstly, Obama is correct in saying that women still do not have equality in the workforces (which is different to equality of opportunity). The culture of many organisations works against us (otherwise there would be equal numbers of women and monorities at the pointy end of corporations).

Secondly, you raise some interesting questions about how equal pay is actually going to happen, because, given the way that organisations are structured, at any hint of sharing the benefits the wagons will be drawn into a circle. In other words, people with power (i.e. white middle class men) don't want to share the benefits with people who are not like them (i.e. women or minorities) - no matter how hard the "others" work or how educated they are! Men also think that sexism and racism has been somewhat "fixed", because it's not overt any more.

How do I know this? I'm doing a doctorate in this area! Thanks for asking great questions... I'm not sure we will see any answers soon!

john
August 30, 2008 5:13 PM

Perhaps if we hadn't spent several hundred billion dollars on the Iraq war there'd be funds for all of Obama's plans plus money to spare.

Hey, here's a thought. Let's cut military spending since it eats up more than half of the federal discretionary budget.

Wow! Let's do both: end the Iraq war and save billions of dollars and cut military spending to save billions more.

Or is that too "liberal?"

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