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Rudy Giuliani for VP?

posted by Susan Johnson | 12:04pm Tuesday August 19, 2008

It seems to be the day for rumors of VP choices. You all know that there have been rumors of a pro-choice running mate for McCain and now it appears that the pro-choice balloon has been floated not for Lieberman or Ridge but for Giuliani.
After thinking that they were going to get Lieberman as their VP, I bet Giuliani is looking pretty good about now :-) Maybe that was their intention, pretty smart if it was.
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Guy Arthur Thomas

posted August 19, 2008 at 1:17 pm


Giuliani or Romney. Go Rudy!



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Paul, seeking wisdom

posted August 19, 2008 at 1:27 pm


That’s great for the democrats. Two adulators on the same ticking running for the Conservative Religious Rights’s vote. What a way to lose!
Rudy for V.P.? that is a kiss of death. The Democrats will jump all over that Rudy cheated on his wife while she was in the hospital with cancer. They will make Edwards look like a choir boy in comparison.
If the Religious Right does not yell outrage at this choice, then they will have to drop Christian from their name.



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Guy Arthur Thomas

posted August 19, 2008 at 2:25 pm


Rudy for V.P.? that is a kiss of death. The Democrats will jump all over that Rudy cheated on his wife while she was in the hospital with cancer. They will make Edwards look like a choir boy in comparison.
If the Religious Right does not yell outrage at this choice, then they will have to drop Christian from their name.
Posted by: Paul, seeking wisdom | August 19, 2008 1:27 PM
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Poor Paul. Rudy and his ex-wife were mutually divorced and lived quite separate lives for quite some time before they formalized their divorce in 2000. His ex-wife, Donna Hanover acknowledged their separate lives for a number of years before they were divorced in 2000. While they did not publicize the rift for the convenience of everyone’s comfort neither did they seek to make a pretense of being in love and one happy couple (as the Edwards did). But the fact remained it was public knowledge and NOT denied.
You, my confused friend, are playing the part of a LEFTIST who feigns outrage. You are looking for an excuse to claim offense. “How Dare They” (See Libspeak 101 class on LEFTIST TACTIC #3). Your posturing, unfortunately blinds you and your hands over your ears deafens you to some PROBLEMS with your comparisons.
1. John Edwards not only LIED repeatedly and contemptuously besmirched those daring to confront him on this issue but now is STILL LYING and is daily being CAUGHT IN LIES about the affair. He has established a record as a SERIAL LIAR.
2. John Edwards has quite possibly fathered a child out of wedlock. But what does he do? Does he, a man who indeed has the power to do so, insist upon a PATERNITY TEST? Does he show any semblance of decency toward the child who at some point should know who her father is in insisting that the TRUTH of who the father is be settled once and for all? No, he now hides behind PROXIES who feign ignorance and settles meekly and pathetically for his mistress’s call to NOT do a paternity test.
3. Donna Hanover’s MEDICAL issue was a GROWTH ON HER RIGHT CHEEK that she had removed in an outpatient procedure that had NO effect or threat on her long term health. It was much like the growth McCain recently has removed while CAMPAIGNING. But does that fact matter to you? No you are DISINGENUOUS and again not interested in the truth. But worse, WHAT AN INSULT to the truly life ending CANCER Elizabeth Edwards is facing.
4. John Edwards infidelity occurred on a platform of national consideration. Not only was Edwards willing to run for the Democratic nomination WHILE CHEATING and LYING about it but even up until a couple months away from the Democratic National Convention, while STILL being considered for a VP slot, he continued SEEING Hunter, his mistress, and the infant whose paternity is in question and LYING about it.
Now the list can go on and on but for those that see through this CHARADE of yours that is sufficient.



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Christopher Taylor

posted August 19, 2008 at 3:02 pm


Nah, I still believe it will be Senator Lieberman – if not VP then he’ll have a high cabinet posting.
I don’t much care for Giuliani, either.



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Charles Cosimano

posted August 19, 2008 at 3:12 pm


The religious right might just as well shut up. They have a choice, accept whomever McCain picks as VP or have Obama as President. It does not matter whether they like it or not.



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anonymous reincarnate

posted August 19, 2008 at 5:54 pm


cc – the religious right shut up? that will be the day. they complain about mccain incessantly, they can’t stop whining about any of the names floated for republican vp. nobody is as pure as their god figure reagan, or their messiah little bush.
nice try, guy, but infidelity is infidelity, whether it’s clinton, 9iu11iani, “wide stance” craig, or anyone else. at least that’s the way i see it. but in this infidelity, you manage to find nuance. i suppose that you do the same for mccain when he cheated on his first wife, a former swimsuit model – after she was severely disfigured and wheelchair-bound after a car crash – with cindy who at the time was young enough to be his own daughter, whose money he married into and used to buy their 6 elitist homes and fund his political career?
“But worse, WHAT AN INSULT to the truly life ending CANCER Elizabeth Edwards is facing.”
yes, your entire rant to excuse rudy while condemning edwards for the same offenses is (by your own definition… see “tactiic #3” from your lessons in misnamed “libspeak 101″) of one “who feigns outrage… looking for an excuse to claim offense.” oh, and do we detect an “attempt to induce false guilt and shame based on a position of moral superiority” while trying to “completely silence the line of argument” by rendering it immoral, “making anyone else challenging your ideas (even if their challenges are new and separate from the earlier ones) and values as morally inferior?” afterall, as you said, “your ideas and values are not required to be debated or challenged.” of course now, you can insinuate that the child is edwards’s and “you aren’t burdened with the task of taking your ideas and doctrines to their ends and proving their prescriptive legitimacy.”
oh my! you’re a… a… A “SOCIAL TERRORIST!”



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Guy Arthur Thomas

posted August 19, 2008 at 6:21 pm


Once again, “Reincarnato the Ridiculous” looks like I hit a bullseye. Run Bambi run…the GOP is about to run you over! Next Please!



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Anon Part II

posted August 19, 2008 at 7:54 pm


Lieberman?
Oh yeah, like the Republican/Christian party would deign to have a Jew on a national ticket. Right wing Christians don’t vote for people who are going to hell, especially Jews.



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anonymous reincarnate

posted August 19, 2008 at 8:26 pm


and even still, you don’t see your own hypocrisy? what a dope. guy, you are truly hopeless. your mommy can tuck you in now. nighty night, kiddo.



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Charles Cosimano

posted August 19, 2008 at 9:49 pm


Personally, I don’t care if the candidate is a serial killer as long as his policies benefit the country, in particular MY part of the country.



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Steve

posted August 20, 2008 at 1:09 am


Personally, I’d prefer John Edwards to make another run as McCain’s VP.



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John

posted August 20, 2008 at 10:20 am


Let’s see.
First Michelle pronounces Fred Thompson as presidential material. Bet he’d cut down crime, huh.
Now Michelle pronounces Giuliani as looking good for VP, I suppose to balance the Republican ticket tranvestite-non-transvestite. Why on earth did Beliefnet hire this blogger?



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Paul, seeking wisdom

posted August 20, 2008 at 7:25 pm


Let’s see now, you think that a pro-life adulterer and a pro-choice adulterer make a good “Christian Values” ticket. Boy talk about hypocrisy!
Conservative values have really dropped to an all time low sense I was a child. And by the way, in Jesus’s own words, “God hates divorce.” Look that verse up before you vote.



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Guy Arthur Thomas

posted August 21, 2008 at 8:34 am


Let’s see now, you think that a pro-life adulterer and a pro-choice adulterer . Boy talk about hypocrisy!
Conservative values have really dropped to an all time low sense I was a child. And by the way, in Jesus’s own words, “God hates divorce.” Look that verse up before you vote.
Posted by: Paul, seeking wisdom | August 20, 2008 7:25 PM
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Show me where ANYONE said their support of McCain or their possible support of Giuliani would “make a good “Christian Values” ticket”. YOU CAN’T and YOU WON’T…again, because it DOESN’T EXIST.
Unfortunately your density is so grave I must state the obvious. People vote for political leaders, including Christians, for a myriad of reasons. The moral perfection of a candidate is not the criterion, but you know that, you just want to pretend that it is for Christians and create a false argument.
That is of course, one of the PROBLEMS of you LEFTY LIBS. You are reduced to LYING about what others in order to invent a world that doesn’t exist so you have something on which to base your arguments.
No one said that, you can’t find it being said here and you won’t. Instead of playing in a world of PAPER DOLLS in order to create arguments against statements that have never been made I suggest LEFTY LIBS maybe your mom or dad can take the time to help you explore the grown up world of reality. Next Please!



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anonymous reincarnate

posted August 21, 2008 at 5:18 pm


“Show me where ANYONE said their support of McCain or their possible support of Giuliani would ‘make a good “Christian Values” ticket’. YOU CAN’T and YOU WON’T…again, because it DOESN’T EXIST.”
now, that’s something we can agree with. nobody in their right mind would say that mccain or 9iu11iani have the credentials for a christian or family or moral values ticket.
paul, you’re right to point out the hypocrisy of the media and of the religious right who never miss a chance to lambaste clinton and now edwards for their indiscretions, but when it’s one of their own, the religious right silently looks the other way. we remember the shrill cries from religious conservatives with clinton on the stand. where’s that equal treatment for mccain? remember in 2000 when evangelicals came out from under their rocks to vote for bush based on “moral values”? barf. they’re not the issues voters, they’re the “good feelers” voters. bush fit their mold, said what they wanted to hear and made them feel good about themselves. he certainly didn’t win based on his dismal record.
paul, too many religious conservatives have it branded into their psyche that a democrat can’t be a devout christian. they think because obama’s black, has a strange name, and his dad was muslim, he must be a muslim, too. they can’t pull the lever for obama but they can hold their noses and pull the lever for mccain or 9iu11iani even though they’ve both been unfaithful to the individuals that they vowed to love and cherish till death did they part. how can they trust their promises to millions of people they don’t even know? they try to paint obama as a celebrity by linking him through nothing but imagery to 2 female blonds known for their silliness when he is nothing like either of them and has no ties to them… this, after they elected reagan, schwarzenegger, sonny bono, et cetera.



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