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HS student has to remove rosary because it’s a “gang symbol”

posted by Susan Johnson | 6:56pm Tuesday September 16, 2008

Evidently gang members are wearing religious jewelry:

“I went to school, walked through the metal detectors and they told me to take it off,” the teen said. “I asked them why and they said because it’s gang-related.”

Her mom had given it to her and now she’s ready to sue. Hopefully common sense will prevail and the girl will be able to wear her rosary again.



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Rob

posted September 16, 2008 at 7:09 pm


Why, Michelle, wouldn’t a classic Reformed position favor the school in banning the rosary?



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DonF

posted September 16, 2008 at 7:21 pm


Michele…maybe you should check this out.
http://www.nj.com/news/expresstimes/pa/index.ssf?/news/expresstimes/stories/gangs_05.html
“The officers said yellow rosary beads can indicate membership in the Latin Kings. Red rosary beads around an inmate’s neck could indicate membership in the Bloods — another well-known gang with suspected ties to the area.”
Or maybe this:
faculty.missouristate.edu/M/MichaelCarlie/what_I_learned_about/POLICE/tactics.htm
“It’s common for the members of [this] gang to wear a red rosary around their neck with a red cross dangling from it. Our officer approached him, stuck his finger out and flipped the cross saying ‘So you’re a [member of that gang], huh?’” Dale was stunned.
“Not only did the officer show disrespect for the gang member, he destroyed our ability to gain further intelligence and, worse, he gave away the fact that we knew that youths wearing red rosaries and red crosses were gang members! Now none of them wear the rosary or red cross! I’d like to do something to prevent such things from happening in the future.”
Now…can you help this school craft a policy that allows the girl to wear her rosary but prevents the gang-banger from wearing his?



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ds0490

posted September 16, 2008 at 7:27 pm


“Now…can you help this school craft a policy that allows the girl to wear her rosary but prevents the gang-banger from wearing his?”
What…and give up a chance to complain and play the victim? This feeds into her “Christians are being persecuted” meme.
Of course, you can bet that if her child were attacked in school by a gangbanger who happened to be wearing a red rosary, she’d make sure her lawyer used the articles you linked to in evidence in her lawsuit against the school.



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Charles Cosimano

posted September 16, 2008 at 7:34 pm


The school will either capitulate or lose in court. That is what is going to happen.



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ds0490

posted September 16, 2008 at 9:11 pm


“The school will either capitulate or lose in court. That is what is going to happen.”
Yep…and the first time a rosary-wearing gang member shoots another child, you can count on Michele being the first to blame the school for not doing something about the gang presence in schools.



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Charles Cosimano

posted September 16, 2008 at 9:20 pm


It really does not matter if they shoot up the whole school. The issue is the right to wear a religious symbol, all other considerations are irrelevant.



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Moonshadow

posted September 16, 2008 at 9:38 pm


This is a difficult sell because so many people who aren’t in gangs wear them, beginning with the popular singer Madonna, on down to most players in MLB.



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Rob

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:16 pm


So, Charles Cosimano, if an Aryan Nations child wears a Swastika necklace over his “I hate n——” T-shirt, you’re OK with that. Satanists’ children can wear their symbols, whatever they are? I don’t think so. But it’s refreshing to see Michelle come down on the same side as the ACLU.



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yelladawgNC

posted September 17, 2008 at 12:01 am


I think Charles was being sarcastic. I hope so, anyway.



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RJohnson

posted September 17, 2008 at 12:55 am


“But it’s refreshing to see Michelle come down on the same side as the ACLU.”
Yeah…but you have to wonder if she would have come down on the side of a Muslim student with a headscarf, or a Wiccan student with a pentagram.



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jestrfyl

posted September 17, 2008 at 10:25 am


This gang is so out they have huge clubhouses in the center of many towns, their leaders wear all black uniforms openly, and they have been known to do drive-by benedictions. It is male dominated, demanding loyalty to the death, and expects its members to embrace poverty in the service to the gang. No wonder she was not allowed to wear the rosary!
(actually, my understanding is that a rosary is not intended to be a fashion accessory – as employed by Madonna – but an assist in spirutality, to be carried and used in prayer and meditation)



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Moonshadow

posted September 17, 2008 at 10:52 am


a rosary is not intended to be a fashion accessory … an assist in spirituality, to be carried and used in prayer and meditation
Sure, like a Jewish prayer shawl under the clothes … or a scapular.



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