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McCain's campaign hinted that they'll release a Wright ad

Saturday September 20, 2008

Categories: Politics
Listen for the wail of the MSM as they lament such a partisan and unfair attack, but Obama only has himself to blame for it because he opened the door by linking McCain to Limbaugh and (taking Limbaugh out of...
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km
September 20, 2008 11:18 AM

Michelle:

Why so much hatred? Your hatred is palpable. And please don't answer that "the left" started with the hatred. I am not asking about their hatred, I am asking about yours.

Charles Cosimano
September 20, 2008 12:04 PM

I think it is a pity that Obama has not taken Rev. Wright back to his bosom. Then both parties could have a travelling religious freak show. Sarah Palin can speak in tongues and play with snakes and Rev. Wright can foam at the mouth and bite the heads off of chickens.

Why can't we have equal opportunity insanity in this election? The public is clearly being denied its right to entertainment.

Mark O
September 20, 2008 12:21 PM

Hah. Well if you want guilt by association, how about McCain's buddy Charles Keating, you know, the convicted felon who used to give McCain huge amounts of cash, lavish holidays, free flights on his private jet. (McCain was very much in favor of influence peddling before he was against it.)

Or how about McCain's wacko spiritual advisor, John Hagee, who once said this: "Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS? You can negotiate with a terrorist." (There goes what's left of the female vote.)

Or what about that guest speaker at Sarah Palin's church, David Brickner, a figure viewed with deep hostility by many Jewish organizations? (And there goes Florida.)

My goodness, if the Republicans want to take the low road again, sure, that's their choice. But they'll only be able to get away with it if they do it from a position of strength. At this stage (and after the adverse poll numbers come out next week), it's going to look a bit desperate.

EG
September 20, 2008 1:14 PM

How about pictures of McCain and his pretty little heiress girlfriend, while his handicapped wife - you know, the mother of his first children - pines away for him at home.

That's the best one of all. McShame of No Morals.

yelladawgNC
September 20, 2008 1:24 PM

If I were the Republicans, I'd steer clear of bringing up Jeremiah Wright. He's old news. But Sarah Palin's "witch hunter" pastor Muthee, who carried out a campaign of persecution against a woman in Kenya because he said she was a witch, the same man who prayed over her and whose prayers she credits for winning the election in Alaska, is just starting to gain media attention. And "witch hunts" are something Republicans might do well to avoid mention of, since they are already associated with them via Joe McCarthy. Kind of like Watergate, the Keating Five and the Savings and Loan scandal, Herbert Hoover and the like.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/


DA
September 20, 2008 1:28 PM

It's true that Obama should be called back from his unfair linking of McCain with Limbaugh on this issue...something I've already seen some Obama supporters doing. Hopefully he will remove these ads. (Though the broader question of Hispanics' support for the Republican party, especially given the hate-tinged speeches of people like Tom Tancredo, that's worth bringing up in other contexts...just not in linking McCain to them.)

I'd have to say that you don't have a lot of credibility in calling Obama on this, though, since you didn't blink at the McCain campaign's well documented twists and perversions of Obama's record. Call them both to accountability and truthfulness, not just your opponent. That would be the (Reformed) Christian approach.

yelladawgNC
September 20, 2008 1:34 PM

Click on Story #3 to the right when you get to the link.

yelladawgNC
September 20, 2008 1:40 PM

Story #3 to the LEFT.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/


DA, thanks for your attempt to keep Michele honest. Let me know how that works out for you.

Scruffy
September 20, 2008 2:50 PM

From my "Reformed" Bible (ESV): James 4:11; "Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if judge the law, you are a not a doer of the law but a judge."
James 1:19,20; "Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, so to anger; for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God."

Can the hate stop here? Can we agree that the Social Gospel is not the choice of the GOP and that the Religious Right have taken the road of condemnation rather than reconsciliation? We know that Rev. Wright is wrong and he has been retired from his pulpit. We also know that sin resides in all churches, even within Sarah Palin's faith. She chose to leave one church because it was "Politically unwise" to continue there (at least that is how it was presented to me). So why can't we just leave it alone once and for all.

If we can not agree to, "Show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of Glory." (James 2:1) then we can show no love to God. As we mock and disdain each other, we choose sin over grace.

MzEllen
September 20, 2008 7:04 PM

Can the hate stop here? Can we agree that the Social Gospel is not the choice of the GOP and that the Religious Right have taken the road of condemnation rather than reconsciliation?

Your statement shows your intolerance of a difference of opinion.

NO. We cannot agree that the "social gospel" is not the choice of the GOP. The government stealing from one group to give to another is not "GOSPEL". When you look at "Gospel" in Scripture, it not the government that is doing it...not the GOP, not the libs.

Look at the people around you. Look at what the people in churches are doing OUTSIDE of government. Food banks, crisis pregnancy center, Christian adoption services, (in my city) Mel Trotter Ministries, Catholic Social Services, Christian domestic abuse centers, Christian foster child centers, summer camps for children, and many, many more things that are done outside of government. This is NOT INCLUDING the one-on-one of Christians helping others outside of the government using tax dollars.

that the Religious Right have taken the road of condemnation rather than reconsciliation?

You own condemnation betrays your own unwillingness to "reconcile".

The government does not spread the gospel. Not the GOP, not Democrats, not Libertarians. People spread the Gospel.

RG
September 21, 2008 2:35 PM

MizEllen states that the government stealing from one group to give to another is not 'Gospel'.

1. All taxes, from any source, take money from one group of people and give it to another. This is how governments are funded. All of them.

2. The social safety net now in place largely came about because of the abuses of the financial system in the 1920s and 1930s. These abuses led to the great depression.Then , as now, the rich found ways to benefit themselves at the expense of all, but it was the poor who suffered . Rules were put in place to prevent this happening again.
The Republicans have been dismantling these rules over the last few decades.

3. The bailout the Bush administration is doing now is a good example of reverse Robin Hood policies.
The banks made bad loans, but they knew that they would bundle them and sell them, and never be held to account for those loans. Now they privatize the profits, and socialize the losses- that is, stick the public with the bill.
This is also socialism, but I rarely hear any Republicans complaining about it.

4. Time has shown that percolate-up policies work much better than trickle-down.
For everybody. But when the rich are aided by policies that help them even more, speculative bubbles develop. When these burst, it is not the rich who suffer. It is the poor.

The Bible has a lot to say about how we are to treat the poor and needy. Government policies affect this, for better or worse. I prefer policies that help the poor , not hurt them.


MzEllen
September 21, 2008 9:02 PM

The Bible has a lot to say about how we are to treat the poor and needy. Government policies affect this, for better or worse. I prefer policies that help the poor , not hurt them.

That's sort of a strawman...I never said that policies should hurt the poor.

I believe that government should not be in charge of the "Gospel".

Cybercorrespondent
October 2, 2008 8:26 PM

A Look Into Barack Obama’s Past
Barack Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ more than 20 years ago and considered the church pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright as his mentor. Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope." In his sermons, Rev. Wright repeated denunciations of the U.S and blurted out statements like “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing “God Bless America.” No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."
Looking at Obama’s ties to Rev. Wright, and his connections to a terrorist bomber, William Ayers, both men who would like nothing more than to destroy this country causes many people to second guess Obama’s intentions for change. If you have not heard about William Ayers, you can read about him in the U.S. News, Michael Barone’s column-Obama Needs to Explain His Ties to William Ayers. “In my U.S. News column, I make a brief reference to the unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist bomber William Ayers and his connections to Barack Obama. They were closer than Obama implied when George Stephanopoulos asked him about Ayers in the April 16 debate—the last debate Obama allowed during the primary season. To get an idea of how close they were, check out Tom Maguire's Just One Minute blog and Steve Diamond's Global Labor and Politics. The Obama-Ayers relationship is also mentioned in David Freddoso's The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate.”

Lets examine Obama’s connection with an accused political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko. The following is on explanation by Brian Ross and Rhonda Schwartz from ABC News. “In sharp contrast to his tough talk about ethics reform in government, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., approached a well-known Illinois political fixer under active federal investigation, Antoin "Tony" Rezko, for "advice" as he sought to find a way to buy a house shortly after being elected to the United States Senate. Rezko had been widely reported to be under investigation by the U.S. attorney and the FBI at the time Obama contacted him and has since been indicted on corruption charges by a federal grand jury in a case that prosecutors say involves bribes, kickbacks and "efforts to illegally obtain millions of dollars."
Because Barack Obama was a dependable ally of subsidized developers in the Legislature, his friend and fund-raiser Rezko depended on him to get things done such as cosponsoring a bill in 2001 allowing developers to pocket half of the proceeds from selling state tax credits to others. Obama admitted that his decision to involve Rezko was “a bone-headed mistake.” What he failed to mention is that he has a closet full of bone-headed mistakes such as Peter Wallsten pointed out in the Los Angeles Times on
January 24, 2008.
“Barack Obama angered fellow Democrats in the Illinois Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago's West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation: He goofed.

"I was not aware that I had voted no," he said that day in June 2002, asking that the record be changed to reflect that he “intended to vote yes.”
That was not the only misfire for the former civil rights attorney first elected to the state Senate in 1996. During his eight years in state office, Obama cast more than 4,000 votes. Of those, according to transcripts of the proceedings in Springfield, he hit the wrong button at least six times.”

Now comes the big question, what exactly does a community organizer do?
One thing Barack Obama did as a community organizer was pressure banks to make bad loans. In Barack Obama’s youthful community organizing days he joined a group called ACORN. Using the Community Reinvestment Act which was designed to encourage banks to make loans to high-risk borrowers, ACORN started abusing the law by forcing banks to make hundreds of millions of dollars in 'subprime' loans to minorities with bad or no credit. Using charges of racism and threats to use CRA to block business expansions have enabled ACORN to extract hundreds of millions of dollars in loans and contributions from America’s financial institutions.
Other things that ACORN did as community organizers were agitate for higher minimum wages, attempt to thwart school reform, try to unionize welfare recipients who are obliged to work in exchange for benefits and organize voter registration drives. In 2006 for example, their voter registration drive in Washington produced 1,800 new voters of which 1,794 names submitted were fake. The secretary of state called it the “worst case of election fraud in our state’s history.”
If you like to know more, watch these two videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRmB93McZeI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Cybercorrespondent
http://cybercorrespondent.blogspot.com

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