What in the world has happened to Alec Baldwin??? He's actually making sense in this video clip (content warning -- it's Bill Maher after all). He actually stuck up for Wall Street! But then he lost it when he started talking about taxes and Palin. Lefties don't get it that when you raise taxes you lose income and jobs (as Gibson had to explain to Obama). And when they started to talk about how the right doesn't get it that we need government, I was laughing at their inconsistency. They were just complained about how the government messed up by passing the bailout and we now have this huge debt to pay for it. Don't they get it that the only solution to our problems that the government has is to throw money at it? That's why we are trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, the government is our savior. Mock Palin all you want but at least she gets where the real problem is, unlike the Hollywood elites sitting on that stage.
BTW, Christine Amanpour demonstrates why the MSM is in the state that it is in today. You'd think that she'd know more about a story that has such world wide consequences.
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Michele, Why are jobs lost when taxes are raised? Aren't the government jobs that are created counted?
MzEllen I live by the river and its been hot and dry for six weeks but yesterday the river rose and rose is that the fault of the
dems? Raising taxes and unemployment can and often is as unrelated. Economic cause and effect is extremely difficult to unravel and that is why there is continual debate in the field. Some things are for sure like the relation of supply and demand to price, but most of the rest is up for grabs.
Aren't the government jobs that are created counted?
Where are they in Michigan? Please, my kids would love to know.
MzEllen I live by the river and its been hot and dry for six weeks but yesterday the river rose and rose is that the fault of the dems?
If the Democrats are the ones that shut off the damm downstream so the water backed up...yes.
Some things are for sure like the relation of supply and demand to price, but most of the rest is up for grabs.
In Michigan the cost of keeping an employee went up...so did unemployment.
on the campaign trail, mccain said, "Michiganians have to realize the old jobs are gone for good." mccain was referring to the thousands of auto-industry jobs that have been lost in the past several years. mccain opposed helping the auto manufacturers out and eventually pulled out of the state with his tail between his legs.
obama wants to re-tool and revitalize the auto manufacturing industry to make it more than competitive for years to come, and to be able to provide the more efficient and hybrid-style of vehicles that are in high demand.
my grandfather worked many years for general motors in michigan. he was lucky enough to retire with a pension before japanese cars became the norm in the u.s. he lived out the rest of his days in my dad's boyhood town of flint. to this day, i love my grand prix. i will never, ever own a foreign car as long as u.s. manufacturers are still producing, and i agree with obama that these jobs are not gone for good. i don't vote for quitters like mccain.
In Detroit, it's important to campaign on the "old jobs".
The ones that the UAW represents. The ones that NAFTA took care of.
And the factory jobs that support the auto industry. Both my brother and his wife worked for a factory that produces parts that Detroit uses. Both of them have been laid off in the last year - and having years of service.
In Michigan, the "new jobs" are in the medical field. They will be up and coming and the next years and decades, but in the meantime, the auto jobs are in Mexico.
The auto industry is not going to save Michigan. Increasing employment through encouraging employers by lowering the cost of doing business will. Diversity in jobs will (what is left of the auto industry PLUS...)
The other jobs that are disappearing are the entry-level positions that college students work over the summer. Businesses are paying higher taxes, so the cost of doing business goes up. Labor is the highest and many times the most easily cut expense. Those jobs are getting much tighter.
obama wants to...
When Detroit wants to, it will happen. In the meantime, it is not Detroit that's making the marketable hybrids.
he was lucky enough to retire with a pension before japanese cars became the norm in the u.s.
The ironic part of your statement is...many "American" cars are put together in Mexico, or are put together in the United States, using parts that have been manufactured in other countries. Some "foreign" cars are more "American" than many "American" cars. Toyota Tundra, Camry and the Camry Solaris are on the list of "American made" cars, with plants in Indiana, Kentucky and Texas. (cars made with 75% or more US-made components AND assembled in the US).
Michigan took a hit when Bill Clinton signed NAFTA. It took another hit when Granholm's administration raised business taxes.
MzEllen -
You do know that NAFTA was negotiated under Reagan and that Bush I fast-tracked it for signature?
Clinton just had to sign it - the Pubs created it and pushed it.
NAFTA is a Republican baby.
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