It's about time that the McCain campaign hit Obama on the Ayers connection. He had a working relationship with the guy and it's being ignore because the MSM wants him to win. If the press won't do it's job, I guess the candidates will have to vet the candidate for them:
From remarks in Colorado today: "There's been a lot of interest in what I read lately. Well, I was reading my copy of today's New York Times and I was really interested to read about Barack's friends from Chicago. Turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol.' These are the same guys who think patriotism is paying higher taxes. This is not a man who sees America as you and I do - as the greatest force for good in the world. This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country. This, ladies and gentlemen, has nothing to do with the kind of change anyone can believe in - not my kids and not your kids. The only man who can take on Washington is John McCain."
Here's the video of her remarks:
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"I know of the five, 2 were found to be guilty of no wrong doing. McCain was one."
you do realize that the same argument could be made in defense of ayers, right? he was never convicted of anything, and while righties call him a "terrorist" (because that's their second favorite slander of the moment) back in the day he was an "anarchist."
and just to be clearer as to why this is a non-story - with respect both to ayers and rezko (the two that you think should be tied to obama more in the media to smear obama's character) obama was never found guilty of any wrong doing, either.
No...Minnie and AR...
we are not calling Obama a terrorist. We are saying that Ayers, who Obama has closer ties with that he most often admits, is still saying that they should have done more
That is hardly the portrait of a man who is sorry for what he did.
For me, a man who is able to say, "I was wrong" is more capable of change than the man who says, "that's not the man I knew" or (I was a member of his church for 20 years but...) "I didn't know he said that."
Associations from 30 years ago have less bearing than current associations or associations from 3 years ago.
I have so little respect for Newt Gingrich he's not even worth bringing into a political conversation with me. He has (in the more recent past) made himself irrelevent with me. There's a reason.
What you want is to hold a man's past from 30 years ago against him, even when he has said he is wrong.
What I want is to look at a man's recent past, when he has NOT said that his judgment was poor, or even wrong and base my assessment of his current character on the present.
We don't want the same things.
we are not calling Obama a terrorist. We are saying that Ayers, who Obama has closer ties with that he most often admits, is still saying that they should have done more
And I'm saying that with this country in the middle of economic collapse, NO ONE CARES about any of these issues except the people who wouldn't vote for Obama in the first place. It's a non-starter, and if McCain thinks he can win on it now, in the middle of the economy falling apart, he's an idiot and the campaign advisers he have are morons. Even some conservatives aren't falling for it.
For an example of this, please look at Rod Dreher's blog on this site:
http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2008/10/jeremiah-wright-bill-ayers-jac.html
He considers Ayers and Wright issues, but admits that in the current economic crisis, they don't matter at all, and that it would be foolish for McCain and Palin to focus on them in the campaign. In his words:
"If McCain and Palin are going to try to make this campaign about one or both of those fools, with the massive crisis now before us, a crisis unprecedented in the lifetimes of most Americans -- well, they deserve to lose, and lose badly. If banging on Wright and Ayers is the best conservatism has to offer at this critical moment, then it truly is intellectually bankrupt."
He's right. If this is all the GOP and conservatives have to offer the country now, then they have nothing at all.
Ugh, typos. That should read, "and the campaign advisers he has are morons."
"we are not calling Obama a terrorist. We are saying that Ayers, who Obama has closer ties with that he most often admits, is still saying that they should have done more"
not explicitly, because that's political suicide. but you are trying to slime him by associating him to people with questionable pasts. you know, the whole "birds of a feather" approach. if you think that obama has closer ties to ayers, then pony up the proof. remember proof? remember evidence and fact?
chicago mayor daley said:
so, like level-headed minds on both the left and the right suggest, if you think that discussing ayers has merrit, do it outside of the context of the current presidential race, as it has no purpose other than to smear obama.
i'm not defending ayers's actions but in typical right-wing fashion, you're leaving out that he was never convicted of a crime. he never killed anyone (that i'm aware of). ayers has also said that the times took his quotes out of context and misrepresented them. in his words:
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