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So, Biden won the debate?

posted by Susan Johnson | 7:49am Monday October 6, 2008

That seems to be the general consensus of the MSM and a few conservative bloggers. But I find it odd that Biden could win a debate lying throughout. He may be able to spew talking points but they weren’t accurate and some were just plain off the wall. Do we really want a guy living in a fantasy world a heart beat away from the presidency?
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yelladawgNC

posted October 6, 2008 at 8:46 am


Hey, Bush won an election by lying about Kerry. He won an earlier one by lying about McCain. Now McCain has the same masters of deceit and slander running his campaign. But they’re losing their touch.
Palin and McCain have lied constantly and unrepentantly, even after their lies were exposed, and they are telling even more disgusting lies now that they are losing big.
But the American people aren’t buying. They see this transparent attempt to slime Obama for what it is: a distraction from the real issues. On that front the Republicans have no defense. The Bush policies, with which McCain agreed 90% of the time and which he would continue, have brought us to the brink of disaster.
The people listened to Biden and Palin. They heard a knowledgeable, compassionate man take on somebody who thinks she can wink her way to power by memorizing talking points and avoiding real questions and appealing to the worst in human nature. They saw someone who was so emotionally tone deaf, so lacking in empathy, that she had NO reaction to the real grief of the person standing next to her on that stage. (Guess nobody thought to coach her on how to appear human.)
Palin lost because the truth of who she is speaks louder than words.



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yelladawgNC

posted October 6, 2008 at 8:58 am


More bad news for Palin. And where did she get off ordering state employees not to testify in the first place? That’s an abuse of power in itself.
Reversal in Palin Case
ANCHORAGE (AP) — Seven Alaska state employees have reversed course and agreed to testify in an abuse-of-power investigation against Gov. Sarah Palin.
Ms. Palin, the Republican nominee for vice president, is the focus of a legislative inquiry into whether she abused her office by firing the public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan. Mr. Monegan says he was dismissed because he would not fire the governor’s former brother-in-law.
Lawmakers subpoenaed seven state employees to testify in the inquiry, but they challenged those subpoenas. A judge rejected that challenge last week. Because of that ruling, the Alaska attorney general, Talis Colberg, says, the employees have decided to testify.



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yelladawgNC

posted October 6, 2008 at 9:46 am


Here’s an interesting take on Palin’s performance; Frank Rich thinks she’s running for President:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/opinion/05rich.html



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Stan

posted October 6, 2008 at 10:12 am


I’ve heard that CNN’s viewer poll said that Biden won the debate. They also said that Palin was “more likable.” The ABC poll I saw said that 55% said that they thought more highly of Palin after the debate while 53% said the same about Biden.
My question is … how does a candidate “win the debate”? It’s not like standard debates. In a standard debate, two sides come with all their statistics, facts, logical arguments, and presentation and present the reasons that you and I should agree with them. The one with the most cogent, coherent, convincing arguments wins. No such debate took place here. It was simply “I think” versus “I think” (and “your candidate stinks” versus “your candidate stinks”). There wasn’t much in the way of facts or statistics, logical arguments, or, for that matter, attention to truth. So how does a candidate “win the debate”?



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Karen Brown

posted October 6, 2008 at 11:15 am


In this kind of ‘debate’? Not like this was an official one with a moderator, each one addressing the point, then a chance for rebuttal…
So, in this sort of debate, you win by persuading the most voters.
So, if the polls say that one did better than the other, that one won the debate.
And if the polls say that viewers thought ‘Biden won the debate’?
Then, Biden won the debate.



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Charles Cosimano

posted October 6, 2008 at 3:11 pm


And Obama’s people would know the truth if they sat on it. Politicians lie. It is the most important thing a politician can learn to do because it is the only way that they can be elected and stay in office.



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