So, which one do we believe? AP has it dead even, so does the Battleground Poll but Reuters has Obama up 12 and Gallup has him up 5 among likely voters. The only poll to get it right in 2004 was IBD and they have Obama up 3.7:
Since it's been demonstrated in the past that it is accurate, it's the one I'll be watching until election day but if you want to be deluded into thinking Obama has this sown up, then stick with Reuters.
Contrary to other polls, some of which show Obama ahead by double digits, the IBD/TIPP Poll shows a sudden tightening of Obama's lead to 3.7 from 6.0. McCain has picked up 3 points in the West and with independents, married women and those with some college. He's also gaining momentum in the suburbs, where he's gone from dead even a week ago to a 20-point lead. Obama padded gains in urban areas and with lower-class households, but he slipped 4 points with parents.
Update: OK, then there's this. Either these polls are totally off or Obama is crushing in all of the battleground states??? Even Indiana?? Indianans would vote for a guy who will raise taxes on business, on individuals making less than $200,000 and is pro gun control. I find that hard to believe.
Another update: OK, this is why I think I'm going to ignore the polls from the battleground states. Who knows who is right.
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The AP poll got its numbers by inflating the numbers of evangelicals. The actual numbers they got showed Obama with a 10 point lead.
AP almost doubled the evangelical portion of the vote, from 23% to 42%.
Obama still held a small lead. There was an agenda at work here. When you read how skewed the AP poll was, you'll see it's not worth the paper it's written on.
All the non-skewed polls showed a very different result.
Do we really need to mention that the AP is run by the right-wing moonie church? And the fact that its head is Ronald Fournier, who is a McCain supporter?
so I'm sure you realize that charges of voter fraud by Republicans are fraudulent in themselves;
Not if they're true.
If the voting process is being compromised (whether in Wayne County or anywhere else), I want it to be fully investigated and stopped.
That means we need to be able to voice our concerns about guys in Detroit threatening to disallow voting for people who have not lived at an address because they've been evicted, but they didn't change their address - or about ACORN folks who have registered people to vote 73 times - without being called frauds.
Just my opinion, of course.
The actual number of cases of voter fraud in America is very, very small. I believe about 27 cases have been found in the last four years. In the entire country.
Voter suppression, registering voters and then throwing away their ballots, caging, and many other vote suppression measures have all been much more common, with thousands of cases documented.
The criminals doing those deeds are almost all Republicans.
In Ohio, hundreds of thousands of ballots were destroyed IN DIRECT DEFIANCE OF A COURT ORDER.
This occurred in dozens of Ohio counties,in 2004. Admissions of guilt don't get a lot clearer than this. If there is no crime , why destroy the evidence?
forget the polls i do not vote the dem and the reb are both evil many church members have been decived to think that the reb are for the LORD but there not. here is why they hate the poor and mccain has mocked the poor time after time and have loved his money thats what he is fighting for . not the unborn or any thing else its all money . he has fooled many preachers to vote for him . but the lord has showed me obama will win because he cares for the poor . i did not vote or will tell you who to vote for mccain took palin for vp to fool the church he realy wanted pro coice joe leberman. go look it up plus bushs mom bush wife s.s.rice dont want to over turn roe vs wade plus many other reb dont want to .so if its not about the money go ask your pastor how much he makes a year see what he tells you ?
James, if it offends you, don't read - or do you?
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