Why make the effort when the Spanish are killing themselves?
This is sad, of course, and what’s worse is … isn’t some of this funded by the state?
I just hate it when the state goes about killing its own people, in any case.

I cannot make a fair judgment till we know the real reasons on why more Spanish mums are resorting to abortion.
My personal belief is that no-one is pro-abortion and no-one should use abortion as a first resort. As a result, its better that we prevent it- by reducing pre-martial sex rates- rather than to saddle unprepared single mums- with little or no money and support- with kids.

“… the equivalent population of a mid-sized high school disappears every three days.”
Nonsense.
The equivalent population of a mid-size high school would be a few hundred to a few thousand living, breathing, awake, thinking, walking, talking persons. This is why no one takes the right seriously anymore.
A few thousand abortions (many earlier than the ability to differentiate cells, even) does not equate.
The average person knows the difference between blastocysts and people. The average person knows the difference between tadpole-sized embryos and people. Personally, I draw the line at a fully-functioning brain-stem, but that’s my choice, just as it’s every individual living, breathing, awake, thinking, walking, talking person’s choice to carry to term or not.
Hyperbole is the meat and drink of the religious right.
One wishes they’d simply believe what they believe and let everyone else believe what *they* believe, as is our right.
And no… blastocysts have no rights. Tadpole-sized embryos have no rights. Even fetuses with fully functioning brain stems have no rights, though I draw a personal line before that.
Your mileage may vary.
What I find the most delicious about articles like this is that it’s merely bloviating. It’s merely foot-stamping, hand-wringing, pearl-clutching noise. There’s not a damn thing anyone can do about abortion, except to choose not to have one.
Welcome to the wonderful world of “you don’t get to define reality for anyone other than yourself.”
Enjoy your stay.

The problem with Michelle’s uninformed babbling is that she is defining abortion as murder and then claiming people have died. It’s all just too stupid to comment on. Someone as uneducated, ill-informed, culturally prejudiced and willfully ignorant as Michelle is a perfect representative for the religious wrong.

Since the potential for life is present in blastocysts or whatever one calls it, we ought to have awe, respect and reverence for it, as something created by people out of love.
I can’t denigrate the product of the process any more than all those things involved along the way.

So, Boris and Your name, if you were women and were pregnant, and somebody came up and pummeled your abdomen until you had miscarriage, you’d be totally OK with that because the fetus is just tissue, and not a person, is that right?

Hyperbole is the meat and drink of the religious right.
And if there’s an issue that gets the religious right drunk and gluttonous on hyperbole, it’s abortion.
Maybe if the religious right spent more time trying to actually change the conditions that tend to lead women to abortion (i.e., poverty, lack of access to easy, affordable birth control, etc.) and less time wringing their hands and trying to criminalize it, they would have gotten something accomplished towards reducing the number of abortions since the passage of Roe v. Wade.
Instead, they’d rather just whine about how awful it all is, and isn’t it terrible that a woman’s health is an exception. The “pro-life” movement is all talk, and wrong actions. Change the circumstances and the root causes and you might have a chance at reducing abortion. Treat everyone involved like a mass murderer and a criminal, and expect them to ignore you and treat you like the insane, bloviating activist you are.

“the conditions that tend to lead women to abortion”
The primary condition is INCONVENIENCE. The vast majority of abortions are not done for overwhelming economic reasons.
And as far as not helping with poverty, that’s just crazy. Christians give more per capita to charitable organizations than any other group. And I guess you’ve failed to notice all the church-sponsored food banks, aid programs, and most of the hospitals in the country that are tied to one religious group or another.

The primary condition is INCONVENIENCE
Er, no. Not quite:
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

ZZ you said: So, Boris and Your name, if you were women and were pregnant, and somebody came up and pummeled your abdomen until you had miscarriage, you’d be totally OK with that because the fetus is just tissue, and not a person, is that right?
Boris says: Sure. Do you know ANYONE who would EVER be OK with someone pummeling them under ANY circumstances (the WWF excluded)? I can’t imagine what it would be like to be pregnant which is one big reason I am pro-choice. Even though your question is ridiculous I think I know where you are going with this. The fetus belongs to the woman. So if someone willfully causes her to miscarry, lose a fetus she intends to give birth to and raise and nurture until it drives her nuts and she tells it that it’s time to grow up and leave home, then it raises the following question: Should the attacker be charged with murder and if so why? Is that what you’re driving at here ZZ?

Well, it all comes down to education levels, and income levels. When one is not as educated and/or as rich, one may think that abortion is acceptable.
But when one is middle class, and educated- and has understood sex education- one is more likely to plan ahead, and not get havoc about sex.
So as long as abortion is addressed in the way where the causes are addressed, and not the symptoms per se, I think we shouldn’t be overhyping the issue of abortion. Besides its unrealistic to think that as long as abortion is banned, everyone will follow the law. Humans are born as sinners, and as such some will rebel.
And you can’t throw them into jail just because of that.

So you’d rather see uncontrolled population explosion? Got news for ya, Michele: it would benefit everyone if our own country’s population began to fall. We should emulate Spain. Before blabbing, consider the deadly effects of overpopulation, or perhaps read a book on the matter.

Posts like Michelle’s are decidedly short-sighted. It doesn’t matter whether millions live in squallor, just so Michelle doesn’t have to sully her “beautiful mind” with images of women aborting their fetuses. Never mind how they’re going to be fed, clothed, housed, educated, or assimilated into our great nation, God bless it. Never mind that places like India, Indonesia, parts of Africa, etc. are so full of people dying of hunger, thirst, and preventable disease that will never be prevented. Never mind all of that – just so long good Christian white folks can sit in their gated communities and pass judgment on the dirty, unwashed “other,” God is in his heaven, and all is right with the world.

“Never mind how they’re going to be fed, clothed, housed, educated, or assimilated into our great nation, God bless it. Never mind that places like India, Indonesia, parts of Africa, etc. are so full of people dying of hunger, thirst, and preventable disease”
Oh, so because it may be slightly inconvenient to support a tiny increase in population, we should just kill them all. Brilliant. Who’s next? Old people? The handicapped?

ZZ again your statements and questions are absurd. It’s more than a slight inconvenience to starve to death. And no one is talking about killing anyone but preventing unwanted pregnancies.

Oh, so because it may be slightly inconvenient to support a tiny increase in population, we should just kill them all. Brilliant.
What tiny increase in population woudl you be talking about, Einstein? There are billions living in poverty and hundreds of millions starving.
Are YOU gonna feed em?

Feeding people who are currently alive and murdering the unborn are completely different subjects, so stop diverting attention by conflating them.
Murder of thousands of innocent unborn = genocide. It’s not a hard topic people.

“The government knew there was a real and credible threat to this country from Al Qaeda. They might not have known when or where, but there were definite signs that an attack was coming down the pipeline”
No kidding! Clinton knew all about it. He had many opportunities to take out Bin Laden in the 90′s, but he caved because it wasn’t politically expedient. By the time Bush came to office, OBL had gone to ground.
If we didn’t know when or where, what the heck would you have us do about it? Just start randomly shooting down airliners??

Feeding people who are currently alive and murdering the unborn are completely different subjects, so stop diverting attention by conflating them
Exactly what do you think all those millions of not murdered babies are supposed to eat once they’re here for whatever lifespan they’re cursed with? Starlight? Moonbeams? Ooh! I know – how about they can eat “hope for a better tomorrow” or “love of our Lord and Savior.”
That’s gotta be filling, no?