This is a group that's been meeting and praying for awhile in the Castro district of SF. Now, because of Prop. 8, the gays have decided to take out their anger, hatred and frustration on a group of people who were just praying, not protesting or stopping them from doing what they want to do, just praying. Here's the MSM whitewash of the incident:
Here's reality and here's video of the incident (after the police arrived):
In San Francisco's Castro District, people on both sides of the same-sex marriage controversy confronted each other on Friday night, as police tried to keep the peace. Proposition 8 passed in a close vote and eliminated the right of same-sex couples to marry.Members of the gay community said that almost every Friday night, a Christian group meets at the corner of Castro and 18th Streets. They try to convert gays and lesbians into a straight lifestyle.
This Friday night, the message didn't go over well. Some gays and lesbians reacted by trying to chase the group out of the Castro.
"Their rights were respected," said Joe Schmitz, an opponent of Prop 8. "They got a chance to go ahead and pray on the sidewalk and I had the opportunity to express my freedom of speech which is telling them to get out of my neighborhood."
San Francisco Police officers in riot gear formed a line and escorted the religious group into a van to safely get them out of the area.
Members of the gay community insisted that their reaction to the Christian group was spontaneous. "It was not an organized thing. We're tired of it. It's not religious. It's not a racial thing. It's about hate. We're trying to send a message across the world that we're standing up and we don't want this to go on anymore," said Adam Quintero.
If gays want to act like fascists, they'll lose any sympathy they may have over this issue. They're not really helping their cause with these protests and fascist witch hunts and I thought they were getting that. I guess not. Bullying Christians isn't going to get them anywhere, they're not easily intimidated. They've faced far worse foes than angry gays blowing whistles.
One thing is clear from the video, these guys want nothing to do with Christians or our message of redemption in Jesus Christ. That came out loud and clear when one of the fascists yelled that Christians should stay out of their neighborhood. The gospel appears to be collateral damage in this war over state sanctioned marriage.
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Andrew Sullivan's blog from The Atlantic regarding the crazy fundies in the Castro: Those Peaceful Christians
I watched Bill O'Reilly last night interview actor Kirk Cameron on marriage equality, an interview in which Cameron said that civil marriage is not susceptible to any change because it is ordained by God. Like many of his fellows, Cameron sees no distinction - because there can never be a distinction for fundamentalists - between civil and religious law. To his credit, O'Reilly asked all the right questions of Cameron, but he kept showing that Youtube of a confrontation in the Castro district, as the bars closed. O'Reilly has not shown any images of the hundreds of totally positive, peaceful protests that went on across the country last Saturday. But that clip, like the Jeremiah Wright clips, are being shown over and over again on Fox to polarize the debate, and to whip up fear among conservative Christians.
But who were those people who decided that immediately after the bruising Prop 8 battle, it was necessary to go into the Castro district to urge homosexuals to repent at the very moment on a weekend night when many bar patrons in a nightlife district would be inebriated or otherwise feisty?
The prayer push was totally within their rights, of course, and should not have been impeded. But I think we can say it was not exactly tactful at such a raw moment. As one of their overly-angry protestors put it, "Why here? Why now?' Well: you get some idea by watching where one of them ended up soon after, at an event in Kansas hosted by Christian Dominionist, Lou Engle, of Joel's Army. He is an advocate of total religious war against "demonic" gay people. And one of the young women who went into the gay neighborhood that night calls for a "mass exodus from the demonic influence of the Castro." Dominionists want an end to the Constitution and reimposition of Biblical law. They truly are the American Taliban. And when they go looking for a religious war, Fox News is there to help them.
William said: It's sad how many people have been brainwashed into believing homosexuality is some genetic predisposition and equate it with skin color. However, that's the only way to justify the claim that one has a 'right' to be homosexual. The Bible says otherwise.
Boris says: Science tells us the earth is round and is hurtling through space, but the Bible says otherwise. It’s amazing how someone like William who has been thoroughly brainwashed by other PEOPLE into buying into the Christian system of dogmatic superstitions can claim other people are brainwashed. Any time science disagrees with the Bible (which is ALL the time) believers claim anyone who accepts current scientific data is being brainwashed. Just like Christian colleges who brainwash their students into accepting and learning about modern cosmology, evolution, geology, anthropology, oceanography, physics, chemistry and the rest of science people like William routinely deny because the “Bible says otherwise.” Science tells us homosexuality comes from a genetic disposition. Once again the science proves the Bible wrong. This is why Bible believers have denied and fought against every scientific discovery ever made ever since there was a Bible.
William said: Everything God has instructed us to do or not to do in His Word, we have the choice of doing or not doing. 'Thou shalt not kill.' 'Thou shalt not steal.' The Bible never says 'Thou shalt not be black' or 'Thou shalt not have a physical deformity' because these are not things in which we have a choice.
Boris says: Why does the Bible not condemn slavery then? Should we believe that people having sex outside of marriage is worse than owning another person? This is why the morals and ethics in the Bible are useless in today’s world. The Bible says people with physical deformities may not enter the temple to worship God.
William said: With this in mind, the Bible says 'Man shall not lay with man' and 'Woman shall not lay with woman.' This is something we choose to do or not to do. It's interesting the same passage in the Bible which condemns homosexuality also condemns beastiality. We don't hear the people who choose to commit these acts screaming for their rights. Why? Because beastiality along with homosexuality is wrong.
Boris says: Killing people and taking their land because they don’t worship your God is wrong too. But the Bible commanded this and other atrocities. The Bible poisons everything and every thought of every believer.
William said: This is why Christians would pray for homosexuals. No different from praying for God to help an alcoholic or kleptomaniac to want & accept treatment.
Boris says: Equating homosexuals with thieves is typical cultural prejudice coming from a Christian. Stealing hurts other people and infringes on their rights. Homosexuality does neither. People like William are determined to hurt others and infringe on their rights because the Bible tells them to. This is why it is so important that writers like Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, Smith and others expose the fallacies in the Bible and the evils that lurk in the arrogant and tortured minds of right wing fanatic Nazis like William.
Lol, this blog sounds like something on a hate site. Michele doesn't even pretend to be professional.
Sign me up for whatever religion you belong to, Michele!! I want the compassion, peace, and serenity that you so obviously have in your heart!!
Johann Hari, an openly gay journalist, who writes regularly for the Independent. wrote this piece for the Huffington Post - "The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists" by Johann Hari
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-strange-strange-story_b_136697.html
He can't be called a neo-con, he's very left wing. It makes perfect sense to me, gays are showing themselves to be extremely fascistic since the election. Using the n-word, even at black gays and lesbians who were carrying "no on 8" signs. Burning a black church in Springfield, MA, invading a church in Lansing, MI and violently threatening the congregation with baseball bats and axes. Creating a blacklist, and demanding people be fired from their jobs. As Hari writes, Hitler never would have risen to power without gay extremists like Ernst Rohm, but far from the homosexual utopia they thought they were getting, they were on the receiving end of the torture they hadn't minded imposing on others.
It is truly sad that so many people in America have chose to believe a lie rather then the truth. God set forth the truth in his Holy word and those that chose to follow their own perverted desires and have the nerve to assume the position of God and tell him He is wrong will receive what they deserve. Shall the clay say to its creator, the potter why have you made me so? We have no right to question Him and those that do and chose to disobey him, well!! read in the Bible, it's all there. As for me and my household we will serve the living God no matter what this world tells us. Real Christians out there, stand firm, Lift up the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and be prepared to endure persecution as never before in America For the evil one and his demons have taken the souls of many. We must show the Love of Jesus but we must not compromise his word! God have mercy on those rebellious of Him!
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