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German doctor denied permanent residency in Australia because his son has Down syndrome

Tuesday November 11, 2008

Categories: Health, Politics
This is what happens when the government controls the health care of the nation. Not only do they treat special needs children as a burden on society and as second class citizens but they make mind blowingly dumb decisions like...
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thomas
November 11, 2008 9:31 AM

What does this really have to do with nationalizing healthcare in the United States? Are you kidding? Or just a moron? Here's a scenario for you: I'm poor, and I'm sick, and I keep putting off going to the doctor because I can't afford it. Now tell me again whats so horrible about universal health care?

Your Name
November 11, 2008 9:35 AM

You're a moron. Just because a lot of doctors don't want to move to the outback means poor people shouldn't have health coverage in the USA?

km
November 11, 2008 9:42 AM

I have to agree with the other posters Michelle. This post doesn't even make sense. There is no correlation between the article and your conclusions about universal health care.

NightLad
November 11, 2008 10:04 AM

Socialized health care does not discriminate like this; the select people within the German government are. What they are doing is awful and will be overturned, I’m sure.

In a healthcare system where the Provincial or State Government officiates the healthcare system, it is the >peoplepeople

This is opposed to a healthcare system ruled by for-profit HMOs that frequently deny and delay life-saving surgery and medications to clients for no other reason than protect their bottom line. $$$

Chew on this; The World Health Organization has listed America as 37th in the world in terms of health care. Many European nations are higher. France is #1 and they implement a truly socialized healthcare system.

It is disgusting that in America, a country that promotes itself as being the most powerful and wealthy, citizens are forced to chose between life-saving surgery for their child or keeping a roof over their head; that they must forgo over-the-counter aspirin let alone afford reasonably priced prescription drugs.

Obama is not suggesting Socialized Health Care, by the way. That is a scare-tactic tossed at you by Republicans, many of whom are so deeply in bed with the HMOs that there is no telling where one starts and the other ends. Obama's proposed healthcare reform is more akin to Canada’s, which implements a balanced mix of socialized services, subsidised services, and privatized services. And we are well above America in terms of healthcare, according to the World Health Organization.

In Ontario Canada, where no parent must choose between dinner or life-saving medication, I pay less taxes than many American’s do. Look it up.

But you know, what really bothers me about comments like Ms. McGinty’s is that they are not directed at the healthcare system itself; they are meant to shame innocent, hard-working, tax-paying, law-abiding Americans who may find themselves in situations beyond their control and desperately needed help.

I am reminded of an interview I watched on 60-minutes. A man who lost his wife to cancer shortly after the birth of their third child struggled to raised his family alone. His eldest child was just 12. Then he was diagnosed with MS. He was soon forced to leave the job he had held for years and to accept MediCare coverage. However, in a bid to save money, his State slashed 10,000 people from the program – including him. With no way to pay for medication, and no hope of getting better, he was literally left abandoned. The show ended he had no idea how he was going to feed his children that night.

There but for the Grace of God, “Reformed Chick”, goes YOU.

NightLad
November 11, 2008 10:10 AM

Apparently my attempt to highlight a word using >>> was misinterpreted as HTML.

Paragraph 2 read as:

In a healthcare system where the government officiates the Provincial or State healthcare system, it is the people who ultimately make the decision, much like how they decide how the country operates by voting for leaders in government. If the government drops the ball, the people can address them with the Vote and let their voice be heard.

ZZ
November 11, 2008 10:40 AM

Hey, Your Name, thanks for keeping it classy with the name calling. Jerk.

RJohnson
November 11, 2008 11:07 AM

I wonder...if this doctor came to the US and applied for insurance, would the carriers reject him because his child had a "pre-existing condition?"

Or if he were already in the program when he had this child, would the insurance company drop him?

It's amazing how conservatives worry about children being covered by insurance when news articles like this come out. Of course, the hundreds of children without healthcare insurance in our nation currently don't mean a whit to them.

Robert
November 11, 2008 11:48 AM

Michelle, your outrage is appropriate, but the idea that this occurred only because Australia has national health care isn't.

We don't have national health care, and we aren't going to adopt anything like the Australia plan if we ever do. But what of an would-be American immigrant with a Down's syndrome child? Even in the USA today, a child or adult with Down's syndrome or any other developmental disability would only be admitted with a medical waiver that indicates that this person would be able to understand the oath of allegiance he or she would make to the United States.

It may be about the cost of health care in Australia, but that same child would not necessarily be admitted to the USA as it stands now, either. Complain for the right reason.

Moonshadow
November 11, 2008 1:07 PM

I'm feeling very gullible today ... thank God for your commenters or you would have convinced me.

ZZ, read more, everyone is calling her names.

this person would be able to understand the oath of allegiance he or she would make to the United States.

Wow.

Yeah, I don't see private insurance behaving any better on this matter. The twist that makes this story interesting is that the parent/guardian is an in-demand specialist in his own right.

MzEllen
November 11, 2008 3:48 PM

Even in the USA today, a child or adult with Down's syndrome or any other developmental disability would only be admitted with a medical waiver that indicates that this person would be able to understand the oath of allegiance he or she would make to the United States.

Ummm, yes. Wow.

Especially since I work with a group of mentally impaired people - in the three years I have worked on campus, I've worked with three students - from West Africa, Serbia, and Russia. All immigrants, all here with their families and none of them would be able to explain the meaning of the oath of allegiance. One of them - maybe - if very well coached ahead of time (he is a person with autism and can memorize pretty much anything.)

Pickledeel
November 26, 2008 2:20 AM
http://www.pickledeel.com

You will be pleased to know the Australian government has backflipped and allowed this family to stay here. Which is great news.

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