It looks like the black vote saved Prop. 8

No surprise there. Black opponents of gay marriage actually elected George W. Bush in 2004 by crossing party lines to give Bush the slim margin of victory in Ohio. (Rod Parsley, Word of Faith/prosperity doctrine Pentecostal was largely credited for this.) Realize that blacks have a much higher percentage of evangelical and fundamentalist Christians (though regrettably a much lower percentage of Reformed) than the white population. That black evangelicals and fundamentalists do not vote with white evangelicals and fundamentalists is the best evidence that the religious right was never a movement started or blessed by God or organized, motivated and run according to Biblical principles in the first place. Religious right Protestant evangelical and fundamentalist Christians were working WITH Roman Catholics who pray to Mary and WITH unbelieving Jews and AGAINST black (and increasingly Hispanic) people with whom they share the same sola scriptura, sola fide, soli deo gloria, sola gratia, solo christo faith as they do. And the best (or worst) part of it was that not a single member of the religious right shed a single crocodile tear over that fact. Especially during the Reagan - Gingrich years of the 80s and 90s, white conservative Christians called their black brothers and sisters in the Lord criminals and welfare cheats seeking handouts just like everyone else. Never forget that the religious right's beloved Ronald Reagan kissed off black Christians by starting his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi and visiting Bob Jones University (who had to be forced to integrate in 1971, forced to admit nonmarried black students in 1975 and still had their ban on interracial dating) but bent over backwards to court white Catholics and nonbelieving Jews, remember? My goodness, many of the leaders of the religious right, including Jerry Falwell, Jesse Helms and Pat Robertson, were former segregationists. Jesse Helms actually left his church when it voted to admit a black member.

No, the religious right was never a Godly movement but a great deception, a strong delusion that deceived many Christians by fooling Christians into associating Jesus Christ with state and culture. If the Obama election results in the final death knell of the religious right, it is a good thing. Because please remember: many evangelicals passed up Mike Huckabee in order to get behind the pro - abortion pro - homosexual Roman Catholic Rudy Giuliani (including Pat Robertson) and many evangelicals actually opened up their pulpits to the pro - abortion pro - homosexual Mormon Mitt Romney. They even allowed Romney to get away with claiming "we both believe in Jesus", "Mormonism is another Christian denomination" and coin the term "evangelical Mormon." As bad as Obama's victory is, a Romney victory would have mean skyrocketing the number of Mormons in this country and worldwide, and evangelicals would have played a huge role in it.

you are bigots.

Since when is it discriminatory to define marriage between a man and a woman? Christians do not hate homosexuals. Christians are not all Republicans and believe it or not some homo's are Christians. If you believe in God, ergo nature's design, it's obvious God did not design for us to be having same sex partners. So go out there and get that civil union and stop all the rhetoric.

The people have spoken. Stop your whining. This is voting, remember?

It amazes me how people who have had to fight for their own civil rights will deny them to others. It truly is sick.

Failure to keep the Sabbath is also a sin, Christocentric. Are you saying anyone who doesn't should also be prevented from being allowed to marry? That, my friend, is what civil rights are all about. Giving people protection and services of the law regardless of their color, sex, sexual preference—or whether or not they go to church, or whether or not they take advantage of the poor, or defraud the workingman of his wages, or commit any other so-called "sin."

"Blacks are tired of gays rights being compared to civil rights! Gay rights is about the right to be recognized as a sexual lifestyle ... civil rights is the right to exist as a human being!"

And at one point in time, America was tired of colored rights being compared to civil rights.

What a country we live in when the people who have felt discrimination themselves turn it back on those whom they could have helped, instead of oppressed.

Being gay is as much as a sexual lifestyle as being straight. Prop 8 upsets me a lot, and it doesn't even affect my future. Just the people that live around me.

Thanks a lot Black people. You officially lost respect in my book. Maybe you'll take Obama's lead and actually get an education.

All homophobics...ever heard of waterhoses?

I'm terribly sad Prop 8 passed. This issue to me was about equality for all Americans and clearly some Americans still don't get that concept.

As a black gay man, I feel somewhat betrayed by my own people, a very strange feeling to have. For all the straight blacks out there who voted Yes on 8, you are now gay, 'cause you screwed me! :(

Religious right Protestant evangelical and fundamentalist Christians were working WITH Roman Catholics who pray to Mary and WITH unbelieving Jews

According to us, YOU'RE the unbelievers and the idolaters.

The same old argument - bigot, etc,etc.

It's all about REDEFINING a word. It's not about rights.

The causal effect on redefining this word to meet the specific goals of a minority in society is to force acceptance in the light of the original definition of the word. I suggest if you want the legal 'rights' of a married couple, then address those rights, not the word.

Only in the light of "rights" (parental, etc, etc) is the argument for "rights" valid. In the light of redefining a word, it is invalid.
It is not "rights" that are the issue. Those "rights" have been provided for in current legislation. However you wish to describe a same-sex union, it is provided for. So get over the argument of rights. It is the attempt to redefine the word, and ultimately so SOCIETY views same-sex unions as marriage. It is all about forcing acceptance on SOCIETY through legislation. It has nothing to do with rights. And for that, those that oppose are bigots. I wear the badge as you proclaim. But your proclamation does not make it true.

Thankfully, Prop 102 in AZ has also been recognized by the voters as a requirement to prevent bench legislation, which is the true violation of voter rights.

"Prop 8 does NOT eliminate homosexual rights. Homosexual couples already have been getting the SAME legal benefits, such as tax reduction and so forth, as any other married couples."

This is false! Homosexual couples do not have the same legal benefits as any other married couples. If a partner in a domestic partnership dies, the widowed partner does not have rights to the assets of the one that passed away. It will go to the family of the diseased. If one is in the hospital, the other does not have any rights to make decisions on medical matters.

I found the results of Prop 8 to be morbidly disgusting! Although I am a Black heterosexual female, nevertheless I have always supported gay marriages, same-sex adoptions, as well as upholding the Supreme Court decision of Roe V Wade. Unfortunately, Christianity has a played a vital role in many Black communities. Many African Americans are physically liberal, but socially conservative. What went wrong with Prop 8 and the Black vote? A.S.S.U.M.P.T.I.O.N and BAD MARKETING! There is a smaller percentage of Blacks living in California than any other ethnicity group. There are more faith-based televised sermons advertised on BET, than MTV or VH1. There were no grassroots campaign pushing the opposition agenda of Prop 8 in Black and Hispanic urban/suburban areas. Kanye West, a rapper who has openly expressed his support for gay marriages would have been a great spokesperson for the Black community. Politics is a game of chess, and Prop 8 is just one of the 16 pieces! The Mormans understood their religious constituents. If you want to forward a faith based agenda among minorities, then target the Black churches. President Bush did this during his Presidential campaign. Trying to push Prop 8 right after the Presidential victory of President Obama {without gaining a favorable amount of attention to this subject from Blacks and Hispanics} was infantile. You want Prop 8 eradicated? Then reach out to the Black community. It's NEVER too late! I still support same sex marriages.