Atheist's sign stolen from the Captial

I definitely do not approve of stealing the sign.

But I would note one difference between the sign and the Nativity scene (which I do not think should be on government property).

The sign intentionally insults the beliefs of others. The Nativity scene may offend some non-Christians (though not all) but there is ntohing in the tableaux which intentionally sets out to insult and denigrate the beliefs of others.

If the people who stle the sign were religious, then they certainly acted in a hypocritical fashin.

The people who posted the sign acted in a manner every bit as self-righteous and judgmental as the the people they claim are so intolerant.

That preamble to the State Constitution needs to go too....

Robert, I'm pretty sure about this but could be wrong. Somebody please check me. A couple of years ago a Jewish group wanted to put up a Menorah (sp?). Understandably, a Christian wanted then to display a manger scene. It was originally rejected as being too religious. So he sued. His case was taken up by the conservative Alliance Defense Fund. They won and a settlement was drawn up allowing all points of view without discrimination. Hence the atheist sign.

What gets me about this is the seeming hypocracy. Some Christians felt excluded and understandably wanted "a place at the table." But now, when the atheists want a place at the table, some Christians think we should be excluded.

The thief blew it. He violated his belief system, the law, and drew attention to an ideology he disagreed with.

The comment section of the linked article can't be taken as the intent of Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) who put the sign up. So the obvious question to the offended is how could a sign state FFRF's lack of belief in a way you would not find offensive? Dan Barker the co-president of FFRF was a Christian preacher before he became an atheist, so the wording on the sign reflects his need to take a stand on the issue.

When you think about it there's no way to create a display of a negative belief, so a sign stating their belief is the only thing FFRF can do. The article also had the text of the theist rebuttal and the abandoned first draft which frankly struck me as pretty weak.

I do not think the sign is a good idea because it makes FFRF seem like the Grinch. Christmas is a popular holiday and most of the non-religious like Christmas trees and are at least neutral on Nativity scenes. Personally I like Nativity scenes because I like children and animals, so I think they look cute together.

About those preambles ...
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/4/19/214135/275

"The more rapidly truth is spread among mankind the better it will be for them. Only let us be sure that it is the truth." -Thomas Henry Huxley

Naturally modern Christians ignore the Old Testament command against even having or displaying Christmas trees and other idols representing the Pagan holiday of December 25. "Do not learn the ways of the nations or take alarm at the heavenly signs, alarmed though the nations may be at them. Yes, the customs of the people are quite futile: wood, nothing more, cut of a forest, worked with a blade by a carver's hand, then embellished with silver and gold, then fastened with hammer and nails to keep it from moving. - (Jeremiah 10:2-3)

If I ask a Christian why they ignore this clear command against displaying Christmas trees and other ornaments they are never aware that this passage even exists. So they babble a bit and explain how the they aren't "under the law" so this passage doesn't pertain to them. Yet they complain when others don't follow the laws in the Old Testament. Nothing proves the stupidity, ignorance and arrogance of the average Christian more than these types of things. The definition of Christian has become 'one who has never studied the Bible.' Michelle and the rest of the Christian posters on this site are a prime example of this. ROFL!

Are there any geniuses here that can explain exactly what "God" is?

HAVE FAITH- stay strong and noble to your creator- you cant understand ridiculous contradictions- what can you do as a human- speak-all animals speak- build- i see spiders build fancy webs and trap door espionage upon prey- man is made in the image of infinity YET is bound in the cousin of the monkey body to learn humility-respect-dignity-many things- for infinity is at hand- ONE step at a time for man on earth- first we crawl-then walk and talk and build utopia- one step at a time god is like electricity- you may babel the words of power all day and manipulate it- turn on the lights- play with an electric vibrator up your kazoo- BUT TRY TO UNDERSTAND ELECTRICITY_ if you do not- simple 100 volts will kill you-will harm you- you must learn- you must have knowledge- and here it is- man was put upon this planet in only our creator knows- but all man feels inside we are far greater than our animal ways to each other- but why are we animals to each other- go live one day in nature- feel the cold- feel the hunger after only several hours- life is a struggle and man shall dominate the earth- have faith you may live after death- YOU who are afraid of simple viruses the size of the common cold- YOU made of virus like structure of DNA- infinity is at hand- one step at a time- we honor and love the Christ as our duty on earth- or fight like savages-dog eat dog- he who dies with the most toys wins-better me than you- OR focus on the sick and poor- life is a struggle- god gives life- as your heart beats love life and have respect- our duty continues until THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN PERIOD AMEN --

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I love the man called jesus-a life of struggle and sacrifice for the betterment of mankind- this is the highest principle of life to live-struggle in any form- you want a strong body- train hard all the time- take one week off and you deteriorate- want a strong mind-read and learn everything as often as you can-want an enlightened soul- love god with all your heart and soul and struggle and sacrifice for the betterment of mankind-Life is a struggle- I wouldn't have it any other way- Free will

Moses and Mohamed are brothers of the same entity- one with a staff-one with a sword- for man needs to understand discipline- bless all the nations peoples and their messengers to bring peace and unity to her children-and our duty continues until all submit to the chosen one of peace and love-the struggle for the sick and poor-the one that sits at the right hand of the father- the Christ- man of peace- our duty continues under god

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I believe YOU will continue to ignore me as our global economy continues to crumble-nations continue to move military pawns around to secure energy assets for future use-and ww3 comes very soon- the religious people will say christ will come- I AM THE MESSENGER- thru me is christ and man does not force the hand of god- our duty on earth continues by faith until THY will be done on earth as it is in heaven- PEACE- thus- again you will ponder it- maybe even crucify and try to kill- for surely i have witnessed your ugly remarks upon this net-But I have have not come to be crucified- I have a message of unity- it seems you must be brought to your knees first before you listen- it happens in front of you with economic downturn- it is your fault- you ignore the messenger who brings a gift -

Nasty Dromus
God isn't.