Richard Dawkins launches bus ad: "There's probably no God"
"Probably?" Wow! That seems like a punt, don't you think? The atheists raised more than enough for the ad this time: The archsceptic professor Richard Dawkins today launched Britain's first atheist campaign posting the message: "There's probably no God. So...
There probably is no God. We do know for sure, as Dawkins pointed out in the God Delusion, that the Christian God definitely does NOT exist. The Christian God has too much absurd baggage to believe in: Demons, devils, angels, Satan, talking animals, Jesus, seraphs, unicorns, a flat immovable earth... the list of biblical absurdities and impossibilities is almost endless. No person of reason and intelligence could believe in the Christian God. That would be impossible. If some other kind of God exists no one knows but science has pretty much eliminated any God from the picture.
I donated to the campaign and bought a shirt. I am looking forward to this campaign moving to the United States. Here, in Dallas, TX, there are billboards going up this month. I can't wait! It's exciting to finally have herded the cats and have our voice/opinion against meaningless supernaturalism out in the mainstream.
What's with the Atheists' obsession with God lately? I've never seen so many people talk so much about something that doesn't exist. I'm pretty sure that unicorns don't exist, but I'm not going to put it on a bus and then pat myself on the back whispering, "SNAP! - If only everyone were this brilliant".
To Boris - yes, indeed you've cracked the big secret. The Bible was written by human beings within a historical context and may (gasp!) contain literary metaphors to explain the human experience of that time. I too was shocked when I learned that the earth in fact wasn't created in six days and that the sun does not revolve around the earth. Oh and did you know that God doesn't have a grey beard, walk with a cane in a flowing white robe on the clouds? My world was shaken to its core when I found this out.
To Greg - I not only purchased the shirt, I also got the little stuffed animal dog with the darwin fish symbol hangin around it's neck that sings, "who let the God out" when you squeeze it. Keep buying those shirts brutha! More billboards coming to a mainstream near you.
So Atheists, here is a message from an agnostic: "A billboard on a bus is probably not going to change anything, so try to enjoy your life".
Either Dawkins or Hitchens has this little scale from one to seven where you rate yourself a one if you're positive there's a God, and a seven if you're positive there's not. Even Dawkins rates himself a SIX, not a seven. Even he admits that reasonable people can disagree.
Since the bible itself recognizes the existence of doubt, I usually rate myself between one and two.
BTW anybody who can find something other than vitriol and quibbling in Boris' post, please point it out because I can't find it.
"I think it's great that the atheists spend so much of their time, money and effort trying to refute God, it really demonstrates the importance of God is our lives."
No, it demonstrates the importance of the millions of people in the world basing their lives and decisions on the existence of an imaginary being. Self-centered about your beliefs, much?
ZZ rating yourself as a one or two is bogus. Based on what you write we can safely assume that you're a big ZERO.
An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a god or gods - Zeus, Odin, Baal, or any of the rest. There is nothing dogmatic about not believing something there is no evidence for. Are you dogmatic about your lack of belief in unicorns?
Some people would prefer that atheists did not exist, and if there were any, that they pretended not to exist. This may be a hangover from the days when atheism was punishable by death.
I suspect from you comments that you are unaware of how pervasive religion is in our society. Teaching of evolution is considered by some to promoting a godless society, and therefore evil. Beware getting your science learning from a church - think Galileo.
So why are the atheists even bothering with the bus campaign?
Buses routinely carry religious messages - which are a bit "in your face" to non-believers (who wants to be told in large letters that they are going to hell?).
Atheists are now pushing back - actually daring to claim the right to exist. Some people find this offensive. Now *that* is offensive.
Aussie Atheist is it true that only 2 per cent of the population of Australia attends church on a regular basis? I would like to expand a bit on your post above.
It isn’t just Galileo who felt the wrath of Christianity’s bitter anti-science agenda. The list of great scientists opposed by the Church reads like a Who's Who of Science: Copernicus, Bruno (who was burned alive by angry Christians), Galileo, Descartes, Newton, Laplace, Halley, Darwin, Edison, Hubble, even Bertrand Russell and Ben Franklin. At no time has Christianity been on the cutting edge of science -- it has opposed virtually all scientific and social progress for nearly 2,000 years.
It isn’t just the teaching of evolution the Fundamentalists are against either. That is a smokescreen to obscure the fact that fundamentalists also are against the teaching of cosmology (because it proves the universe as we know it is billions of years old), quantum physics (because it states that the matter-energy that comprises the universe always existed which disproves the First cause argument), cell theory (which supports evolution and disproves the Intelligent Design hoax), geology (because it proves the earth is billions of years old), oceanography (because it disproves the Noachian flood), anthropology (because it disproves the man from dust story), astronomy (because it proves people can’t follow a star to a particular house among other things)… the list pretty much includes all science and it always will. Fundamentalist Christians would rewrite the entire public school science curriculum in order to make our children more susceptible to their ridiculous and childish beliefs. Here’s the thing that proves not only their ignorance and hypocrisy but also how wrong they are. None of their garbage is taught in any Christian college or university that has a science department. Not a bit of it and not anywhere. How do you fundamentalists defend THAT fact may I ask?
Dawkins rocks! I am so sick of stupid christians and their mumbo jumbo. why should we tiptoe around their fairy tales! I wish the bus where in SA, i would donate tomorrow!
I would have not said probably - THERE IS NO GOD - SO GET OVER IT!
That would have been my preferred wording.
So sick of them taking advantage of our educated tolerance!
"Ms Sherine said she had been amazed and delighted by the response which had been totally unexpected. She said: "You wait for ages for an atheist bus, then 800 come along at once. I hope they'll brighten people's days and make them smile on their way to work."
Amen to that, Sister :)
Amongst all the anger and hurtful comments, I just want to add that I have been an atheist for 32 years and I understand a lot of what you say about how Christians treat you and how you feel like second-class citizens. I understand how it's hard and even ridiculous to believe in something that you can't see or feel. But 8 years ago, God did become real to me and in an instant I went from unbelief to belief because, simply put, I met Him. Two years after that I was called into ministry. When you experience Him, and I really hope you do, you'll know that He is complete love. Just think that maybe there is something behind the diversity of life and the beauty of creation. There is something bigger than ourselves and you are loved and valued even if you don't believe in Him right now. It's too bad we get so angry about faith because I guess it's because we just want to know more about ourselves and our beliefs are important to us. We all have every right to our beliefs - whether we are an atheist, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu and so on. I believe in God not because someone else convinced me or society forced Him on me. I believe because He has proven Himself to me, over and over. He's real. That's all I tell you.
I just want to add that I have been an atheist for 32 years and I understand a lot of what you say about how Christians treat you and how you feel like second-class citizens. I understand how it's hard and even ridiculous to believe in something that you can't see or feel. But 8 years ago, God did become real to me and in an instant I went from unbelief to belief because, simply put, I met Him. Two years after that I was called into ministry. When you experience Him, and I really hope you do, you'll know that He is complete love. Just think that maybe there is something behind the diversity of life and the beauty of creation. There is something bigger than ourselves and you are loved and valued even if you don't believe in Him right now. It's too bad we get so angry about faith because I guess it's because we just want to know more about ourselves and our beliefs are important to us. We all have every right to our beliefs - whether we are an atheist, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu and so on. I believe in God not because someone else convinced me or society forced Him on me. I believe because He has proven Himself to me, over and over. He's real. That's all I tell you.
Keep in mind you cannot assume religion is down to stupidity. Martin Luther King, Gandhi - they changed the world more than any of us have, more than Richard Dawkins has physically improved the world. Do not get me wrong, I am a Christian and admire Dawkins. Religion has done a lot of good, harm too but still a lot of good.
Gorbachev himself said that the fall of communism would not have happened if it weren't for the inspiration and leadership from Pope John Paul II of the Roman Catholic church.
Religion has done harm and good, but that can be said for any kind of organisation - governments included. USA in Vietnam, Japan in WW2, the Nazi's full stop, Britain in the colonial era... To list a few.
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