County clerk backs down on home Bible study
Sunday May 31, 2009
I'm not surprised they backed down because they were facing a lawsuit that they couldn't win, plus the media storm that descended on them was probably way too much: Broyles said he's been fielding media calls nonstop. "It's been hard...
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Actually after reading the article it seems to me that the good Pastor could have easily resolved this issue if he held his weekly Bible study in his church instead of his home. I can understand neigbors getting upset with having 30 to 40 extra cars being parked in their neighborhood. (And as the article said this was started because one neighbor got a dent in his car from the vehicle of one of the Bible study participants.) The county was foolish to make this a religious issue when it clearly was a traffic one. But I think that all the Christians who are whining about "persecution" should just look at the facts of the matter. Like I said, the Pastor should not inconvience his neighbors like that. Hold the Bible study at the church!
If it was traffic issue the cops should have said so. Should people with backyard parties hold the party in a park. The county was wrong.
according to the report there were 15 people not 40
If I asked my neighbors to hold their parties in a park because of a traffic issue, I would be boo's but it's ok for Christians to hold their studies in a church? The county should have asked them to move their cars. period. Questions other than that were out of line.
Several civilizations on other planets would have handled this situation quite differently. On some planets, the offending Bible study participants would have been eaten. On others, their cars would have been eaten. I think all sentient life forms can agree that if the offending Bible study participants and their cars were eaten, the problem would not recur.
Well, kl, if you were holding your party every single week during the early evening hours and were blocking the road, I don't think a single adult over the age of 25 would actually 'boo' if someone told you to just plain cool it, much less gave you an alternative site.
I guarantee, people whose parties cause cars to block the roads definitely get flack, and I haven't hard many people 'boo' that yet.
Well, I'm guessing Michele is celebrating today.
www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104766394&sc=fb&cc=fp
"This is particularly heart-wrenching because George was shot down in his house of worship, a place of peace."
I doubt over this, ds0490.
Tiller was serving as an usher at his church when he was shot. That is a crime that the shooter will be held accountable for.
There is no cause for celebration nor cause for blaming a person for celebrating when there is no evidence of such.
It was some liberals who rejoiced at the cancer of a conservative, and that conservative who had asked for prayer when Ted Kennedy was diagnosed.
I think that ds0490 has the source of the hatred confused.
This happened the day after Prop 8 was upheld. Coincidence?
This happened the day after Prop 8 was upheld. Coincidence?
I think it's also a coincidence that Saturday is Tuesday and the 30th is the 26th?
It might be a coincidence that you think that Prop eight was upheld on a Saturday.
Or it might be a coincidence that a nut job (and there are a few on both sides) took it upon himself to rid the world of an abortionist (and it is not our jobs to play vigilante and do so)
There does seem to be a pattern developing of violent attacks taking place in churches, both liberal and conservative. Maybe it's simply because of the Internet and better communication, or maybe there is actually an increase in such crimes. I know that our congregation re-examined our emergency plan after the Knoxville UU shootings, and will likely do so after this attack.
I sincerely hope that the murderer was acting alone, a crazed looney with no connection to any other organization. If there is some connection discovered, even a loose connection, to the likes of Operation Rescue or some of the other, more "vocal" pro-life organizations, there will be a huge call for invocation of federal anti-terrorism laws in this case.
taking place in churches, both liberal and conservative.
And do we know whether this church was liberal or conservative? Is it enough to breathe "ELCA?"
There's no denying that this man's death will have an impact on the availability of the sorts of procedures he performed. At least, as the media reports tell it, he was one of the few.
Read Nickol's comments.
http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=3231
Read the article concerning the transformation of John Macarthur's church at the link following this excerpt:
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Of interest, Grace Community Church elder and executive director of Grace to You, Phil Johnson, is a Baptistic Calvinist. This statement appears on his website: “Theologically, Phil is a committed Calvinist—with a decidedly Baptistic bent.” (Who is Phillip R. Johnson?) Even more interesting is this statement: “He...is a member of the Fellowship of Independent Reformed Evangelicals (FIRE).” The slogan of FIRE is “In essentials Unity, In non-essentials Liberty, in all things Charity.” (FIRE) Why is this interesting? FIRE’s slogan is nearly identical to the slogan of Phoenix Freemasonry! “It is the glory of Masonry to teach Unity in essentials, Liberty in details, Charity in all things; and by this sign its spirit must at last prevail.”
http://www.watch.pair.com/macarthur.html
Why is this interesting? FIRE’s slogan is nearly identical to the slogan of Phoenix Freemasonry!
Which is really ironic, since the saying is also attributed to St. Augustine.
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