If healthcare is not about him, why is he making it about him?
Grassley said he spoke with a Democratic House member last week who shared Obama’s bleak reaction during a private meeting to reports that some factions of House Democrats were lining up to stall or even take down the overhaul unless leaders made major changes.
“Let’s just lay everything on the table,” Grassley said. “A Democrat congressman last week told me after a conversation with the president that the president had trouble in the House of Representatives, and it wasn’t going to pass if there weren’t some changes made … and the president says, ‘You’re going to destroy my presidency.’ “
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BTW, I was going to agree with Obama when he said that this healthcare debate shouldn’t be about defeating him (whether that was what DeMint was saying or not), this debate is about defeating a bill that would ration our healthcare and paying more for the privileged to do so. This isn’t about a fight for power or the need to crush your opponent. This is about making sure our grandmas get their pacemakers (thank the Lord my 91-year-old my grandma already got her pacemaker) and not put them on painkillers as they die. It’s about keeping what we’ve got and helping others obtain it if they want. Not forcing them to buy insurance if they don’t want it. That’s what they debate should be about.



posted July 22, 2009 at 5:25 pm
This is about making sure our grandmas get their pacemakers (thank the Lord my 91-year-old my grandma already got her pacemaker) and not put them on painkillers as they die. It’s about keeping what we’ve got and helping others obtain it if they want. Not forcing them to buy insurance if they don’t want it. That’s what they debate should be about.
This is about insuring the 47 million people without insurance. This is about making sure that people are given a reasonable standard of care and that insurance companies can’t exclude–ration–leaving very sick people without care. This is about making sure that America has health care for all that rivals Europe and Canada, not Latin America and Africa.
posted July 22, 2009 at 8:22 pm
A reasonable standard of care in the UK and most of Europe doesn’t include the elderly, preemies and a host of others that are too expensive to be treated. Europe has a higher life expectancy because they don’t count preemies below a certain weight. And just do a search on Google for dentists in the UK or pregnancies and find out how few Dentists and Obs there are there. Obama is very naive in his understanding of health care (weird considering his mother’s past history with cancer). He seems to think one standard of tests is good for all and that isn’t always the case. His public insurance will kill private insurance and gee what will that do to our economy since 1/5 is health care and insurance. I don’t want a panel of drs who don’t know me deciding my health care.
posted July 22, 2009 at 8:26 pm
How about all the grandmas and other people that cannot get needed medical treatment?
Jesus said:
“From everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required; and
from the one to whom much has been entrusted, even more will be demanded.”
Michele is fortunate that her insurance policy does not ration health care. Many insurance companies already ration health care.
Have you ever looked at the PAC money from insurance companies going to Congress.
Republicans are not alone on raking in big money from the insurance companies. The chair of the powerful Senate Finance Committee, Sen. Max Baucus, D-Montana, has been holding meetings of his committee behind closed doors.
The Washington Post reported yesterday: “Health-related companies and their employees gave Baucus’s political committees nearly $1.5 million in 2007 and 2008 when he began holding hearings and making preparations for this year’s reform debate.”
Health-care companies handed out almost $170 million to politicians over the past two years.
Michele said:
“This is about making sure our grandmas get their pacemakers (thank the Lord my 91-year-old my grandma already got her pacemaker) and not put them on painkillers as they die. It’s about keeping what we’ve got and helping others obtain it if they want. Not forcing them to buy insurance if they don’t want it. That’s what they debate should be about.”
Michele’s comment is the typical irrational Republican fear message. There is no plan to to kill old people rather than treat them. The statement has no factual or logical bases.
posted July 22, 2009 at 8:37 pm
That’s an interesting dilemma, Michele. In my family, it is more if my niece can manage to go to the doctor despite the severe stomach pain and even if she can, if she could afford the medication.
It’s like the whole debate over if it’d be ‘rationed’, or if you got to choose your doctors.
Health care is already rationed, those who can afford it and those who cannot, and even among the ones who can, what they can afford. And even HMO’s often say what doctor you can see.
posted July 22, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I have health insurance. I had a blood clot last month, nearly died, and my share of the bill? $110,000.
Although they will let me pay it off at $670 a month, for a very long time.
I’m grateful I had superb medical care. I’m glad I got a discount on my share of my bill. But I can see how a lot of people go completely under waer financialy when they have a hospitalization.
posted July 22, 2009 at 9:01 pm
So, you stupid LIBTARD, you nearly die of a blood clot and now you are whining about the little cost of keeping you alive! Better you had died than the Taco Bell Chihuahua! NEXT PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
posted July 22, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Previous to the subprime mortgage crisis, medical bills was the number one reason individuals filed for bankruptcy.
For the umpteen time, Obama said if you like your health insurance you can keep it.
posted July 22, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Julie said
For the umpteen time, Obama said if you like your health insurance you can keep it.
So what if we can keep it? We’ll still have to pay the tax so that everyone else can get their free health care…making it harder to keep private insurance since their prices will most likely rise. I’m sorry I don’t want to have to pay for everyone elses health insurance
posted July 22, 2009 at 11:02 pm
I’m sorry I don’t want to have to pay for everyone elses health insurance
I agree. Please get off your employer’s health plan so the costs aren’t passed on to me. Pay for your own darn health care, you layabout, and don’t have it subsidized by me, your employer’s customer.
posted July 22, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Why should we assume that Sen. Grassley, who is clearly as much about being anti-anything-Obama as he is for anything, and who can’t even get the name of the other party right, is telling the truth about what an unnamed Democrat (sic) Congressman confided to him?
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