Well, lookey here! The Obama administration has to admit (because of the Freedom of Information Act) how much the cap and tax will cost the average American and it ain’t cheap!
The Obama administration has privately concluded that a cap and trade law would cost American taxpayers up to $200 billion a year, the equivalent of hiking personal income taxes by about 15 percent.
A previously unreleased analysis prepared by the U.S. Department of Treasury says the total in new taxes would be between $100 billion to $200 billion a year. At the upper end of the administration’s estimate, the cost per American household would be an extra $1,761 a year.
I don’t know about you but we can’t afford it things are pretty tight and with losing the Bush tax cuts, it’s going to be even worse. Of course they’ll spend billions giving the poor a hand (which they should since they’re overburdening them) but they won’t help the middle class who is constantly getting squeezed. Just what we need in a recession.
And really, what does our $1761 buy us?
“They’re not telling you the cost — they’re not telling you the benefit,” says Horner, who wrote the The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming
. “If they don’t tell you the cost, and they don’t tell you the benefit, what are they telling you? They’re just talking about global salvation.”
How do we know when the planet is saved?
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posted September 16, 2009 at 8:10 pm
“And really, what does our $1761 buy us?”
a planet to live on so you can continue to piss and moan.
posted September 17, 2009 at 12:08 am
anony, if you don’t mind paying, how about you pay my share of this cap and tax scheme.
posted September 17, 2009 at 6:54 am
They tried cap and trade in Spain–what’s their unemployment rate, annon? 20 percent. It’s a job killer and a tremendous added expense. I live in the South–one of the places that will be hardest hit with this scam because you can live without ac here–as it is to keep the electric bill in the summer under 300 bucks I’m a miser with the lights (almost all the florescent ones–that I have to take to a special dump that is 25 miles away and charges me 5 bucks a trip–because Fed law says I can’t just throw them in the garbage–but I use them because they cut the lighting bill in half)You have to understand too–this is a dark dark house–but in the summer except upstairs it helps. If this bill was in anyway going to be priced the same for all regions–and there is a chart out there showing which states are going to be screwed–and since I have natural gas for heat and water–which Obama is also planning on taxing into extinction–well I just feel so warm and loving about Cap and Trade saving the environment-Haha–I could babble on and on about the Global warming nonsense but I will spare you.
posted September 17, 2009 at 4:05 pm
pouty, looking for a handout?
i will gladly pay your share only if you promise to leave this earthly abode and grant to me the space where your carcass currently resides. deal?
in the meantime, you can pay your own share.
it amuses me that even your party leaders are leaving you behind on this! how few of you believe that global warming isn’t an important issue to address? is there even one issue where you’re not on the far right fringe? you’re an incredible little creature huddling together with a more and more radical and shrinking group.
posted September 17, 2009 at 5:28 pm
zomby, i’m sorry that you’re uncomfortably hot where you live. with the average earth temperature on the rise, i suggest that you find some alternatives for staying cool.
spain’s unemployment rate is 17.4% not 20%. and if you can tie all or even a majority of that 17.4% to cap and trade, i’d like to see your evidence.
if you’re so worried about unemployment and about your own energy demise, why not start a business to provide alternate energy solutions to yourself and others in the area. rather than piss and moan, some people innovate instead.
here are some tips that might help: just relying on the use of florescent lights to reduce your energy use won’t help much because running the condenser in your ac is so much of an electricity sap. consider replacing your ac with something like the “ice bear” or with an evaporative cooler (not for you, but in arid regions) or a more efficient ac unit. install ceiling fans in the rooms where you spend the most time and run them instead of the ac. i installed a solar powered gable fan in my attic and effectively reduced the indoor temperature by 10°F without increasing my electricity bill a cent.
here’s another tip that might save you $5 and 25 miles: if you have a local home depot, they will recycle your florescent lights for free.
despite your plight to stay comfortable in the summer, the inuit have it worse.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/05/070515-inuit-arctic.html
you can deny the effects of global warming all you want, but denial won’t solve the problems.