As usual, fact checking isn’t your strong suit:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35388_Facts_Not_a_Stumbling_Block_for_Morrissey
Maybe if you’d bother to use Google once in a while rather than just parroting everything you read over at Hot Air, you wouldn’t sound so ignorant.

typical fortheright wing (andthis blog). Don’t let the actual facts get in the way of a good lie! The reformed chicks would make Sarah “Death Panels” Palin proud!

Michele is correct.
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=10951

No, she isn’t. And neither are you. Look at the statute you’re pointing at again. This is the relevant phrase:
the fetus of another
1. Last I checked, a newborn child, which is at the center of this case, is NOT a fetus.
2. The statute you’re pointing at applies to someone harming someone else’s child. This woman is accused of killing her own child, not someone else’s. Ergo, it doesn’t apply.
Try again.

Also, the idea that a state anywhere allows a parent to kill their newborn child, whatever the circumstances, is beyond stupid. There is no state anywhere that allows a parent to kill their newborn child.
The fact that the far right wingnuts would rather try and turn this case into some sort of “pro-life” (Ha!) issue is just a bunch of people trying to make political hay where none exists. If this woman deliberately killed her newborn child, she’ll be charged with murder. If she didn’t kill the child, she won’t be. It’s that simple.
All this idiocy and paranoia from the right is tiring. Also, fact checking rather than just parroting Hot Air mindlessly would go a long way to improving this blog.

LJG, sorry. You’re just wrong on the facts. Try again.

Even if this is incorrect, why shouldn’t a woman be able to kill her newborn?
Any libs want to answer?

The laws are clear. It’s not my fault if you’d rather let your “pro-life” (yeah, right) agenda cloud your thinking.
She’s wrong. You’re wrong. The laws speak for themselves. There is no jurisdiction ANYWHERE in this country that allows a parent to kill their newborn child, whether the umbilical cord is attached or not. Trying to argue otherwise is pure idiocy.
Bottom line– if the autopsy shows that this woman deliberately killed her child, she will be charged with murder. If the death is ruled accidental, she won’t be. It really *is* that simple. Trying to make political hay out of it like the morons at Hot Air are is just ridiculous.

As for your other question, it’s an absurdity that doesn’t deserve a real answer. I can’t imagine anyone, liberal or otherwise, arguing that it’s okay to kill your newborn child.
Ideally, abortion can and should be reduced by two things– 1) real, comprehensive sex education in schools (i.e., none of that “abstinence only” garbage that doesn’t work and that is riddled with misinformation, but rather REAL information for people), and 2) easily accessible, affordable birth control that’s covered by health insurance.
Properly educate people about sex and give them an easy, affordable means to prevent an unwanted pregnancy before it ever happens and there’d be less abortions. But of course, the “pro-life” (lol) people don’t want to hear that. They’d rather keep people ignorant of their bodies and make birth control harder to come by, which is completely counterproductive.

I can’t imagine anyone, liberal or otherwise, arguing that it’s okay to kill your newborn child.

Really? Let’s see…woman goes to doc and has him kill the baby up to just prior to birth…and that is what our president argued for them to be able to do. But if the baby passes thru the birth canal suddenlt it is not permissible?
Logically, you nor any other pro right to abortion person can tell me why she should NOT be able to do it.
Please try and answer, or hide behind the “it’s an absurdity that doesn’t deserve a real answer” answer.

You’re completely irrational. Any discussion is pointless.
When you can ask an actual question that isn’t laced with a bunch of ignorant, manipulative language and bait, then we’ll talk. Until then, enjoy your holidays.

LJG, that is exactly what I expected…call names and evade answering the question. Point made!

the only point you made, les, is that you can’t create and carry on a discussion, because you come to the table with an ingrained (and wrong) belief about the people you’re addressing, and you pose questions that are poisoned with partisan right wing talk.
to your question, “why shouldn’t a woman be able to kill her newborn?” apparently she is “able”… after all, that’s just what she did.

anony, or any others, it is really simple.
It is legal for a woman to walk into a facility and pay some $$ to have a MD end the life of her baby. Her intention is to end the life of the baby.
So here is where it gets real simple for you guys…why should she not be able to end the life on her own…at home? Like this woman did. Very simple. Someone who believes in the right to abort…can you please provide an answer? Logically, why should she NOT be able to do that?
Or, will you just “call names” and accuse of using “right wing talk?”

Oh and to make it even more understandable for you..
“why should she not be able to LEGALLY end the life on her own…at home?”
After all, we know she DID end the life, as anony rightly pointed out.
So, will there be silence? or, are one of you going to try to provide some logic to an answer?

les, your right, it is very simple.
the logic, and of course the crux of the argument, is in where you draw the line between when a fetus (which is not a baby, let alone a person) becomes a person. logic has it that one can not murder a clump of cells which do not constitute a person.
you have your thoughts of where that line is and i have mine. many people have many different thoughts. theologians have their disagreements and so do scientists and so do the rest of us. clearly that part of the debate isn’t as simple.
you may resume to bait and toss out your anti-choice rhetoric now.

anony, great “non answer.” Fact is that the logical conclusion of being pro abortion is infanticide. You nor any scientist, doctor theologian nor anyone else can justify any kind of thinking that one day prior to birth the “fetus” is not a person and immediately after birth it is. Not only is it an impossible scientific position, it is so illogical as to be laughable.
Just be consistent…say what your belief means. Kill it up to and after birth. There’s no difference.
I just witnessed the birth of twins at 35 weeks. Premature. Were/are they persons? Of course. Think man!

Abortion is one thing. A woman doesn’t even have to look at the result of her choice. For a woman to give birth, then heartlessly snuff the life of her child is beyond comprehension. The media and feminists love to talk about how cruel men are, but because this was a woman, it’ll never make Oprah, Oxygen, or other man-hating networks. This case needs to be publicized, and, because this is legal here, this woman needs taken to Saudi Arabia where she can be legally convicted, buried up to her neck in the sand, and stoned to death. How can any person, especially a mother, look at their own baby, then end its life? Legislatures enact laws based on gender profiling against men, such as the Violence Against Women Act when it is a well known fact that women are just as abusive to partners as men are. Where are the laws against mothers who, according to Department of Health and Human Services, kill and abuse their children more than twice as often as fathers? Where is the public outrage? I’ll tell you where. There is no media willing to stir the pot against women, just the evil members of the so-called patriarchy. We see in this story that Justice is not a deciding factor. Votes are. The lives of babies, born or not, matter not one iota to the bufoons that make law. Putting men in prison, aye, that’s where the votes are, and rightly so. But women are demeaned and minimized when the law tells them that they aren’t adult enough to face the consequences of their actions. Let’s make women a full partner in America, and hold them accountable. Put these women that murder babies in prison. Aye, rightly so.

Did some searching. Check out theis pre-election obama statement: “When you get right down to it,” the Illinois Senator said before an audience at the recent Stem Cells R Us Annual Convention, “What difference does two or three minutes inside or outside the womb really make? One’s ‘late-term’ and the other’s ‘postpartum.’ Who’s to say if the postpartum fetus is truly viable? Postpartum fetuses die all the time for all manner of reasons…”
Using this logic, children die all the time for all manner of reasons. Well, hell, so do adults. Who’s to say it’s murder if a mother kills her grown child? Where will these people stop?
There’s a quote made by him that says nobody is pro-abortion. Liar!